fuck nhl officials

Drop The Leash 10

couldve fuckin killed the guy and gets away with it. bullshit.

hope savard is alright.

if that was thornton hitting crosby like that, thornton wouldnt see anymore ice time the rest of the season.

smarchee

i am getting really sick of these cheap shots from punks that dont stand up to a fight

I think the pressure is on to get head shots out of the game ala the NFL

Cooke should get 5-10 games suspension for that, but will probably get 2-3

lukin2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqvcioUlyEU

definite elbow to the head...league needs to address this

aspoonfulweighsaton

Savard put his head down right before the hit and it was right after he passed the puck, therefore Cooke was technically just finishing his check. There are no rules against hits like that so there was no reason to call a penalty given that it was related to the play.

That being said Cooke probably will get suspended given his track record. While he didn't really raise his shoulder, he didn't try to lower it. And the same punishment would be given to anyone hitting Crosby like that. I hate it when people say stupid shit like that. Unless you think the Bruins are just a bunch of pussies for not going after Cooke, the real reason is that it was just a hockey play and they knew it.

lukin2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWHg78rfw6Q

another issue that needs to be addressed is the no touch icing...wasn't in favour of it until you see the later half of Don Cherry Coach's Corner.

lukin2006

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Savard put his head down right before the hit and it was right after he passed the puck, therefore Cooke was technically just finishing his check. There are no rules against hits like that so there was no reason to call a penalty given that it was related to the play.

That being said Cooke probably will get suspended given his track record. While he didn't really raise his shoulder, he didn't try to lower it. And the same punishment would be given to anyone hitting Crosby like that. I hate it when people say stupid shit like that. Unless you think the Bruins are just a bunch of pussies for not going after Cooke, the real reason is that it was just a hockey play and they knew it.

Looks to me like he stuck is elbow out at the last second...I do not have the video capabilities the league has...either way they do need to address hits to the head...i know hockey is a physical game but NHL players do not need to suffer unnecessary head injuries that can sometimes follow them through life.

lukin2006

smarchee wrote:

i am getting really sick of these cheap shots from punks that dont stand up to a fight

I think the pressure is on to get head shots out of the game ala the NFL

Cooke should get 5-10 games suspension for that, but will probably get 2-3

I think 5 would be sufficient. I really think the league has to address head shots. I do not understand why they don't.

Drop The Leash 10

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Savard put his head down right before the hit and it was right after he passed the puck, therefore Cooke was technically just finishing his check. There are no rules against hits like that so there was no reason to call a penalty given that it was related to the play.

That being said Cooke probably will get suspended given his track record. While he didn't really raise his shoulder, he didn't try to lower it. And the same punishment would be given to anyone hitting Crosby like that. I hate it when people say stupid shit like that. Unless you think the Bruins are just a bunch of pussies for not going after Cooke, the real reason is that it was just a hockey play and they knew it.

cooke stuck his elbow out, he was watching savard the whole time, savard never moved his head. there was 5:37 left in the game.. im pretty sure the only thing on the bruins mind was hoping savard was okay and wanting to tie it up, not revenge. that comes next week.

here's to hoping to see crosby's ass on the ice next week.

lukin2006

This interview with Ted Johnson, Linebacker of the New England Patriots changed my mind completely about the importance of trying to prevent head injuries.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/head_ ... hnson.html

lukin2006

Example of good, head down, nothing dirty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxG7Y41fKyg

g under p

lukin2006 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqvcioUlyEU

definite elbow to the head...league needs to address this

That truly sucks when even though he wasn't given a penalty on the play doesn't mean it was a clean play. Just as easily as he gave the hit to the head he could've given the hit to the body/shoulder. Concussions are becoming more recognized in sports and players need to be protected from them in the game. It not only puts you of many games but too many head concussion hits have lasting effects longs after players playing days are over.

I think 10 games would be sufficient.

Peace

jimed14

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Savard put his head down right before the hit and it was right after he passed the puck, therefore Cooke was technically just finishing his check. There are no rules against hits like that so there was no reason to call a penalty given that it was related to the play.

That being said Cooke probably will get suspended given his track record. While he didn't really raise his shoulder, he didn't try to lower it. And the same punishment would be given to anyone hitting Crosby like that. I hate it when people say stupid shit like that. Unless you think the Bruins are just a bunch of pussies for not going after Cooke, the real reason is that it was just a hockey play and they knew it.

He went for the head, not the body. Not cool.

gvn2fly12

This is why the instagater rule needs to be changed, cook shoud be in the hospital, then these "hockey" players would lern very quickly you do not do things like this, the NHL will not hand out any real tough penilities, between 2-4 games is not enough, let the players police the game again, and these cheapshots will not happen too often.

keeponrockin

gvn2fly12 wrote:

This is why the instagater rule needs to be changed, cook shoud be in the hospital, then these "hockey" players would lern very quickly you do not do things like this, the NHL will not hand out any real tough penilities, between 2-4 games is not enough, let the players police the game again, and these cheapshots will not happen too often.

I don't get why hockey needs fighting when no other sport does. Or the Olympics... I didn't miss fighting at ALL during the Olympics. I didn't see many cheap shots during the olympics either...

Thoughts_Arrive

keeponrockin wrote:

gvn2fly12 wrote:

This is why the instagater rule needs to be changed, cook shoud be in the hospital, then these "hockey" players would lern very quickly you do not do things like this, the NHL will not hand out any real tough penilities, between 2-4 games is not enough, let the players police the game again, and these cheapshots will not happen too often.

I don't get why hockey needs fighting when no other sport does. Or the Olympics... I didn't miss fighting at ALL during the Olympics. I didn't see many cheap shots during the olympics either...

You need to watch some Aussie rules football or rugby.

gvn2fly12

I am not saying we need more fighting, as for the olympics, did you seen Sean Avery?? Mate Cooke, The clown philly i forget his name, he took on Kovalchuck, went after Crosby, If you want olympic style hockey as I do, the only way would be to retract 6 teams so these guys do not have a job, I am just saying the league does not protect their players, so why do they not allow the players to like they used to.

As for AFL and rugby, have seen some nasty cheap shots, and again with no real penalties.

Thoughts_Arrive

m0jorisen

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Savard put his head down right before the hit and it was right after he passed the puck, therefore Cooke was technically just finishing his check. There are no rules against hits like that so there was no reason to call a penalty given that it was related to the play.

That being said Cooke probably will get suspended given his track record. While he didn't really raise his shoulder, he didn't try to lower it. And the same punishment would be given to anyone hitting Crosby like that. I hate it when people say stupid shit like that. Unless you think the Bruins are just a bunch of pussies for not going after Cooke, the real reason is that it was just a hockey play and they knew it.

are you blind , you defend this shit

neilybabes86

need to keep fighting

weekapaug19

cheap elbow to the head....no reason for it. He should be suspended without pay for as long as Savard is out. That would make players think twice before pulling a cheap shot like this again.

neilybabes86

weekapaug19 wrote:

cheap elbow to the head....no reason for it. He should be suspended without pay for as long as Savard is out. That would make players think twice before pulling a cheap shot like this again.

thats what i always thought

keep them out as long as the player is out

aspoonfulweighsaton

m0jorisen wrote:

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Savard put his head down right before the hit and it was right after he passed the puck, therefore Cooke was technically just finishing his check. There are no rules against hits like that so there was no reason to call a penalty given that it was related to the play.

That being said Cooke probably will get suspended given his track record. While he didn't really raise his shoulder, he didn't try to lower it. And the same punishment would be given to anyone hitting Crosby like that. I hate it when people say stupid shit like that. Unless you think the Bruins are just a bunch of pussies for not going after Cooke, the real reason is that it was just a hockey play and they knew it.

are you blind , you defend this shit

Um, no. I watched the game on TV and watched in numerous times. I agree Cooke could have held up, but it wasn't as cheap as some of his hits. It's not like he left his feet or anything. You could tell he was lining him up for a hit, but he had no way to know that Savard was going to keep his head down the whole time. I'm certainly not blaming Savard, I just think the intent was to finish the check hard and not to injure.

Rygar

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

m0jorisen wrote:

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Savard put his head down right before the hit and it was right after he passed the puck, therefore Cooke was technically just finishing his check. There are no rules against hits like that so there was no reason to call a penalty given that it was related to the play.

That being said Cooke probably will get suspended given his track record. While he didn't really raise his shoulder, he didn't try to lower it. And the same punishment would be given to anyone hitting Crosby like that. I hate it when people say stupid shit like that. Unless you think the Bruins are just a bunch of pussies for not going after Cooke, the real reason is that it was just a hockey play and they knew it.

are you blind , you defend this shit

Um, no. I watched the game on TV and watched in numerous times. I agree Cooke could have held up, but it wasn't as cheap as some of his hits. It's not like he left his feet or anything. You could tell he was lining him up for a hit, but he had no way to know that Savard was going to keep his head down the whole time. I'm certainly not blaming Savard, I just think the intent was to finish the check hard and not to injure.

Intentional or not it was still a shoulder right to the noggin, Cooke will be suspended and that will be that. Ten pages of arguments won't change much.

polaris_x

hit was dirty and malicious ... savard's head wasn't much lower than normal ... cooke used his elbow and deliberately hit savard in the head ... this wasn't accidental at all ...

i'd suspend him for a long time ...

blackredyellow

gvn2fly12 wrote:

This is why the instagater rule needs to be changed, cook shoud be in the hospital, then these "hockey" players would lern very quickly you do not do things like this, the NHL will not hand out any real tough penilities, between 2-4 games is not enough, let the players police the game again, and these cheapshots will not happen too often.

Removing the instigator rule would also encourage the idiotic fighting after a clean hit crap that is getting out of hand.


I'm not sure how anyone can blame the refs for no call... according to the rules, it isn't a penalty. I don't know know how many times that you need to watch it to convince yourself that it was an elbow, because it clearly wasn't an elbow... even the NESN announcers said it was a shoulder.

But, it was an ugly, dirty hit that has no place in the game... but until they put a rule in place about headshots, and not selectively suspend people soley based on who threw the hit or who got hit (rather than the hit itself), this problem isn't going away.

I don't get what the hold up is... Is there a segment of people in the league who see hits like this and think "It's a hockey play, I see nothing wrong with that... headshots are ok"? Seriously who are the people holding up rule changes about head shot?


A sidenote, but I know the B's are fighting for a playoff spot, but no one felt the need to run Cooke during his couple of shifts after that play? What the hell is wrong with that team? If they won't even stick up for their captain, getting in the playoffs is the least of their worries, because they clearly don't have the heart need to make a playoff run.

polaris_x

blackredyellow wrote:

I'm not sure how anyone can blame the refs for no call... according to the rules, it isn't a penalty. I don't know know how many times that you need to watch it to convince yourself that it was an elbow, because it clearly wasn't an elbow... even the NESN announcers said it was a shoulder.

A sidenote, but I know the B's are fighting for a playoff spot, but no one felt the need to run Cooke during his couple of shifts after that play? What the hell is wrong with that team? If they won't even stick up for their captain, getting in the playoffs is the least of their worries, because they clearly don't have the heart need to make a playoff run.

i watched the video a dozen times before i posted ... definitely an elbow from what i can see ... you can easily see the top of cooke's shoulders when his arm makes contact with the head ... then when you factor in the movement afterwards - it definitely looks like an elbow to me ...

but i do agree with you on your sidenote ... then again - the whole bertuzzi/moore thing escalated similarily ...

Rygar

polaris_x wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

I'm not sure how anyone can blame the refs for no call... according to the rules, it isn't a penalty. I don't know know how many times that you need to watch it to convince yourself that it was an elbow, because it clearly wasn't an elbow... even the NESN announcers said it was a shoulder.

A sidenote, but I know the B's are fighting for a playoff spot, but no one felt the need to run Cooke during his couple of shifts after that play? What the hell is wrong with that team? If they won't even stick up for their captain, getting in the playoffs is the least of their worries, because they clearly don't have the heart need to make a playoff run.

i watched the video a dozen times before i posted ... definitely an elbow from what i can see ... you can easily see the top of cooke's shoulders when his arm makes contact with the head ... then when you factor in the movement afterwards - it definitely looks like an elbow to me ...

but i do agree with you on your sidenote ... then again - the whole bertuzzi/moore thing escalated similarily ...

To me it looks like a shoulder - initial contact with the upper arm then right into the shoulder. BRW has a good point about clean hits, too.

m0jorisen

i watched the game too , and it was an elbow not a shoulder and this asshole has done it before

and the Bruins should have went after him or one on the Penguin star players

Rygar

m0jorisen wrote:

i watched the game too , and it was an elbow not a shoulder and this asshole has done it before

and the Bruins should have went after him or one on the Penguin star players

Looks like a shoulder to me, but yes they should have went after him.

RoughMix

This hit does look more like a shoulder/upper arm than an elbow.But it is hard to see clearly from the angle I saw it.
That being said, this the modus operandi of Matt Cooke.
I've seen at least three other instances of this type of hit from him.
Blindside to the head.
5-10 games for this repeat offender.

coachchris

The players being checked need to be accountable too! Most (not all) of these head shots are because the player with the puck put themselves in a vulnerable position.

As a longtime coach of the game (15 years at all levels), I would be upset if my player didn't finish his check.

If you don't keep your head up after that many years of playing at an elite level you deserve to have your bell rung, this isn't your first year of body contact.

I don't like seeing any player leave on a stretcher but I bet he doesn't cut across the middle of the ice with his head down again. At some point one of the guys who gets checked needs to admit on camera "wow I'm an idiot to think I wasn't going to get hammered while I admired my pass while cutting through the middle of the ice in the defensive zone."