US Facing Surge in Rightwing Extremists

FiveB247x

What exactly is your point... if some is a doctor, does this somehow give them supreme knowledge on economy or how to run a government or even make healthcare more available to the citizens? Of course not! As someone else pointed out earlier, if all you do is discredit the other side instead of trying to fix the problem, nothing gets resolved. So with that stated, you rip into Obama and Pelosi as destroying the nation yet seem to ignore many of the initiatives or backing by Reps or similar who do no better. Last I checked, both parties are very responsible for destroying our nation over the many decades, you just seemed to have check in to the situation when we have a Dem in office.

prfctlefts wrote:

That doesn't suprise me a bit. Did you know that 1 out of 10 republicans in the house and senate are Doctors. But Obama,Pelosi ,and Reed don't care what they have to say about this bill.

brandon10

unsung wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

I know this because English is not the first language of any country in the middle east.

Would my being friends with them be a problem to you? Is that a bad thing? Being friends with muslims?

I have no problem with it. I think you should be the ambassador, in fact I think you should try to find those guys in the picture and go make friends with them. Where should we send you? Karachi? Kabul? Tora Bora? How about Peshawar? Yeah Peshawar it is.

So when are you leaving? I bet they can't wait to have a new American friend.

At least you can You can admit they obviously are not American unlike your halfwit friend. You guys are so afraid of these people. It's pathetic. Bush and Cheney really drove that fear home eh?

Drilling for fear makes the job simple

Godfather.

unsung wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

I know this because English is not the first language of any country in the middle east.

Would my being friends with them be a problem to you? Is that a bad thing? Being friends with muslims?

I have no problem with it. I think you should be the ambassador, in fact I think you should try to find those guys in the picture and go make friends with them. Where should we send you? Karachi? Kabul? Tora Bora? How about Peshawar? Yeah Peshawar it is.

So when are you leaving? I bet they can't wait to have a new American friend.

I laughed so hard I blew soda out my nose.

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Do you just say anything that comes to your mind? Actually one of the only Republicans that was prepared for the Summit and not just talking points, Senator Coburn, had some very good ideas that I am pretty sure Obama incorporated. Oh yeah, hes a doctor.

i know for a fact that most doctors who are practicing do not know much about how insurance works. that is why they hire billing and coding professionals to take care of that for them. these billing people know the ins and outs of insurance and all of the plans. the docs know what is not covered by certain insurances, like certain meds are not covered by certain insurance and certain office procedures that we would like to do are not covered by certain insurances, but we have to get prior authorization or precertification before we can proceed with some things like braces and boots, and certain injections. does anyone really think these non-practicing doctors that have been in congress understands how much things have changed in the last 20 years? i doubt it..

prfeclefts would have all of us believe that obama is ignoring the GOP's requests when he is implementing four of their ideas into his own bill he is constructing...

Byrnzie

prfctlefts wrote:

I bet you sit in your mommas basement all day in front of a pc while wearing tighty whities thinking about the next thing your going to post about america to make it look bad. Why don't you get a fucking life dude.

Why don't you post all the terrible things china has done to it's people and still continues to do it to this day ?
http://www.consciencefoundation.org/ind ... &Itemid=47


why don't you post thing like this
.http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE2.HTM

I'll even squeal like a piggy for you if ya like?

OffHeGoes29

What was this thread about again? :?

Godfather.

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

What was this thread about again? :?

I don't remember but I ain't drinking soda's while I read this stuff anymore it burns my nose.

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

What was this thread about again? :?

why don't you go back and read the original post and maybe comment on that?

unsung

I'm still waiting on Byrnzie to answer my counterpoints.

gimmesometruth27

unsung wrote:

I'm still waiting on Byrnzie to answer my counterpoints.

about him being an ambassabor and when is he leaving? those are not counterpoints.

unsung

Wrong guy. That was brandon10, and I'll give him credit that he replied. Try and keep up.

gimmesometruth27

unsung wrote:

Wrong guy. That was brandon10, and I'll give him credit that he replied. Try and keep up.

you said you were waiting for byrnzie to reply to your counterpoints. you try to keep up.

unsung

Go to page 2.

Tag you're it.

gimmesometruth27

unsung wrote:

Go to page 2.

Tag you're it.

your "counterpoints" did not even answer his questions. numbers 3 and 4 did not have anything to do with his points 3 and 4. ever think that is why he did not give credence to them or reply to them? i would not have.

Byrnzie

unsung wrote:

1. The proof is in the pudding every time the US government signs on to another U.N. treaty dealing with international law.

So you believe that compliance with U.N resolutions represents "...part of a plot to impose 'one-world government' on liberty-loving Americans"?

Maybe you can enlighten us as to just how this works?

unsung wrote:

2. Seems about right, we are getting more people concerned and aware of their ability to vote? We are actually getting people to care? How dare they. The nerve they have thinking the GOP and DNC were going to change themselves. Maybe we can "hope"?

This has nothing to do with people caring, or with people becoming politically conscious/aware. This is about people being whipped into a state of fear by a right-wing media circus that sees universal health care - among other things - as an attempt to turn the U.S into Stalinist Russia. Quite frankly, this isn't a case of the U.S citizenry opening their eyes and becoming smarter, but a symptom of how pliable, fearful, and ignorant most people are in the U.S.

unsung wrote:

3. Ah a quote from an original US patriot, President Thomas Jefferson, a great American. One of my favorite.

Nice attempt to evade the issue. There are gun toting loons turning up at Presidential speeches brandishing signs that encourage the killing of the President, and any other 'tyrants'. I take it you have no problem with this?

unsung wrote:

4. I'm a survivalist. Do you think it is unwise to be prepared for a serious problem given the World's political and environmental climate? That's it I must be a right wing nut-job extremist.

What problem do you have in mind? That someone will take your precious gun away? Yeah, best knuckle down and get ready for a civil war, or an invasion from Cuba.

unsung wrote:

5. And it is their right to march. You don't have a problem with the First Amendment, do you? We see where Tiananmen square got the Chinese. Would you rather have that option?

The author didn't say anything about their right to march. But it's telling that you feel threatened by Universal health care, yet you see no problem with thousands of armed rednecks descending on the Capital.

unsung

Byrnzie wrote:

unsung wrote:

1. The proof is in the pudding every time the US government signs on to another U.N. treaty dealing with international law.

So you believe that compliance with U.N resolutions represents "...part of a plot to impose 'one-world government' on liberty-loving Americans"?

Maybe you can enlighten us as to just how this works?

unsung wrote:

2. Seems about right, we are getting more people concerned and aware of their ability to vote? We are actually getting people to care? How dare they. The nerve they have thinking the GOP and DNC were going to change themselves. Maybe we can "hope"?

This has nothing to do with people caring, or with people becoming politically conscious/aware. This is about people being whipped into a state of fear by a right-wing media circus that sees universal health care - among other things - as an attempt to turn the U.S into Stalinist Russia. Quite frankly, this isn't a case of the U.S citizenry opening their eyes and becoming smarter, but a symptom of how pliable, fearful, and ignorant most people are in the U.S.

unsung wrote:

3. Ah a quote from an original US patriot, President Thomas Jefferson, a great American. One of my favorite.

Nice attempt to evade the issue. There are gun toting loons turning up at Presidential speeches brandishing signs that encourage the killing of the President, and any other 'tyrants'. I take it you have no problem with this?

unsung wrote:

4. I'm a survivalist. Do you think it is unwise to be prepared for a serious problem given the World's political and environmental climate? That's it I must be a right wing nut-job extremist.

What problem do you have in mind? That someone will take your precious gun away? Yeah, best knuckle down and get ready for a civil war, or an invasion from Cuba.

unsung wrote:

5. And it is their right to march. You don't have a problem with the First Amendment, do you? We see where Tiananmen square got the Chinese. Would you rather have that option?

The author didn't say anything about their right to march. But it's telling that you feel threatened by Universal health care, yet you see no problem with thousands of armed rednecks descending on the Capital.

I don't believe we should follow international law that restricts freedoms of US citizens.

Show me someone who threatened to kill the President, and I'll show you someone the Secret Service has been in contact with. Isn't even the talk of doing bad things to a President grounds for arrest? It should be. I'm guessing there is a bit of drama going on here.

I said I was a survivalist. You know being prepared? Who said anything about taking away a gun? I'm taking about natural disasters and being attacked with chem agents or something biological or nuclear. Or do you not see that as a possibility?

Yes, only rednecks own guns. :roll: You know I'm sick of reality, can I play in your world?

OffHeGoes29

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

What was this thread about again? :?

why don't you go back and read the original post and maybe comment on that?

Dude, you're so much nicer in the musicians and gearhead board

gimmesometruth27

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

What was this thread about again? :?

why don't you go back and read the original post and maybe comment on that?

Dude, you're so much nicer in the musicians and gearhead board

sorry, i take politics and my music very seriously. i am willing to help out anyone on the m&g forum because we are all there for the same reason, to learn something and help one another out. i am fairly experienced with being in a band for the last 7 years and playing 35-45 shows a year in that time that i feel i have something to offer from my experiences.

here on the train everyone takes themselves and their politics very seriously and as a result people grasp at straws and threads get derailed all the time. there is nothing worse than trying to debate or make a point in a derailed thread. i sometimes feel like a congressman in some of these threads with all the crap that has to be sorted through to get to the point.

my reply to you was out of frustration of what the thread has become so i lashed out and for that i am sorry. no hard feelings on my end...with all of the partisanship and general anger from both sides on this forum it can wear on you if you are here long enough and i think that is what happened to me yesterday.

unsung

Eh, I'd have a beer with anyone here, just don't talk politics because we are likely to disagree and that would ruin my buzz.

Byrnzie

unsung wrote:

I don't believe we should follow international law that restricts freedoms of US citizens.

Such as?

unsung wrote:

Show me someone who threatened to kill the President, and I'll show you someone the Secret Service has been in contact with. Isn't even the talk of doing bad things to a President grounds for arrest? It should be. I'm guessing there is a bit of drama going on here.

So nobody was seen at any Obama speech holding signs that said the 'tree of liberty' needs to be 'watered' with 'the blood of tyrants'? The author of the article must have just made that up then, right?

unsung wrote:

I said I was a survivalist. You know being prepared? Who said anything about taking away a gun? I'm taking about natural disasters and being attacked with chem agents or something biological or nuclear. Or do you not see that as a possibility?

Attacked by who?