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Well... there you go again...
No one is saying, "You can't own a gun". We are saying, "You can own a gun, but we don't want your sorry unstable ass walking around us with a gun in your hand at a Pearl Jam gig, a baseball game, my corner pub or the local Starbucks because you present a danger to us. Particularly, because you are normally walking around town with a compound bow.".
This is exactly how I feel.
I don't want some person who may or MAY NOT be mentally stable walking around in public with a gun. :geek:
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
next time you step out side take a look around and count how many people are wearing a sidearm....
see anyone other than a police officer ? not to say thing's don't happen but if they did I would like
to be able to protect myself and loved ones.
BTW what about hunter's and sportsmen should they be punished for other people's deed's and the over all public paranoia, just askin.
next time you step out side take a look around and count how many people are wearing a sidearm....
see anyone other than a police officer ? not to say thing's don't happen but if they did I would like
to be able to protect myself and loved ones.
BTW what about hunter's and sportsmen should they be punished for other people's deed's and the over all public paranoia, just askin.
Godfather.
I think rifles are a somewhat separate issue. I have no problem with someone owning a hunting rifle assuming they have proper training on how to use it.
What would you say to a program, much like getting a drivers liscence, where one has to pass a test, maybe go through some training, etc.. to own a gun?
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
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next time you step out side take a look around and count how many people are wearing a sidearm....
see anyone other than a police officer ? not to say thing's don't happen but if they did I would like
to be able to protect myself and loved ones.
BTW what about hunter's and sportsmen should they be punished for other people's deed's and the over all public paranoia, just askin.
Godfather.
I think rifles are a somewhat separate issue. I have no problem with someone owning a hunting rifle assuming they have proper training on how to use it.
What would you say to a program, much like getting a drivers liscence, where one has to pass a test, maybe go through some training, etc.. to own a gun?
......Along with the appropriate circumstances to use such handguns in that state.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
next time you step out side take a look around and count how many people are wearing a sidearm....
see anyone other than a police officer ? not to say thing's don't happen but if they did I would like
to be able to protect myself and loved ones.
BTW what about hunter's and sportsmen should they be punished for other people's deed's and the over all public paranoia, just askin.
Godfather.
I think rifles are a somewhat separate issue. I have no problem with someone owning a hunting rifle assuming they have proper training on how to use it.
What would you say to a program, much like getting a drivers liscence, where one has to pass a test, maybe go through some training, etc.. to own a gun?
XLNT IDEA !!! when I was about 12 or 13 I took a gun safety and hunting class and the thing's I learned I still remember and use today although I don't hunt anymore gun safety is huge to me.
next time you step out side take a look around and count how many people are wearing a sidearm....
see anyone other than a police officer ? not to say thing's don't happen but if they did I would like
to be able to protect myself and loved ones.
BTW what about hunter's and sportsmen should they be punished for other people's deed's and the over all public paranoia, just askin.
Godfather.
I think rifles are a somewhat separate issue. I have no problem with someone owning a hunting rifle assuming they have proper training on how to use it.
What would you say to a program, much like getting a drivers liscence, where one has to pass a test, maybe go through some training, etc.. to own a gun?
I had to do that to get a gun license in MA. I had to take a 2 day class taught by the state police and had to qualify at the shooting range it was held at. Then I paid my fee ($75 for the class and another $100 for a 6 yr license to carry) and I was all set.
I agree with ol' saying " I rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6". as a friend of mine sez, he has a permit
and he carries.
Godfather.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
XLNT IDEA !!! when I was about 12 or 13 I took a gun safety and hunting class and the thing's I learned I still remember and use today although I don't hunt anymore gun safety is huge to me.
Godfather.
Yeah, I think that if ALL were trained, we would see at least some sort of reduction in even accidents.
Who said it on Bill Maher.. You want the best defense for your house, put up a confederate flag... I had a chuckle at that.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
Not really... someone already posted stats proving this to be untrue in this thread.. basically that in the event you had a gun for protection and were attacked unknowingly, the likelihood you would be able to react to offset such a thing is unlikely.
Makes the bad guys think a little before they decide to carjack or mug someone.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
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The bad guys know that law abiding citizens can't carry in states without the concealed carry law. So they know there is little risk in holding up an unarmed person whether that person was ready or not.
But this is a great assumption based on the premise that a criminal or "bad guy" will be deterred from doing something because others have guns as well. I don't know the statistics but would be curious to see in the states which have such type laws, how it correlates to the crime rate. Not sure if it will ring true, but it reminds me of the states which have the death penalty, and the murder rates are no lower, in fact they are higher for whatever the varying reasons. What may seem like a viable deterrent for a common or "normal" citizen, the same can't always be equated or applied to the other half.
The bad guys know that law abiding citizens can't carry in states without the concealed carry law. So they know there is little risk in holding up an unarmed person whether that person was ready or not.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
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I agree with you on the deterrent to a normal citizen. This is why I prefer to have the ability to defend myself against the criminals.
But I'm in one of two states that don't allow me to defend myself.
The term "defend myself" is a bit subjective. Carry a gun isn't a normal or necessary part of functional society. If everyone carried a gun, everyone would be merely doing so to "defend" for everyone else. To me it's nothing more than escalation of a problem and not a resolution to one.
I agree with you on the deterrent to a normal citizen. This is why I prefer to have the ability to defend myself against the criminals.
But I'm in one of two states that don't allow me to defend myself.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
The term "defend myself" is a bit subjective. Carry a gun isn't a normal or necessary part of functional society. If everyone carried a gun, everyone would be merely doing so to "defend" for everyone else. To me it's nothing more than escalation of a problem and not a resolution to one.
I agree with you on the deterrent to a normal citizen. This is why I prefer to have the ability to defend myself against the criminals.
But I'm in one of two states that don't allow me to defend myself.
5b247x what would you conceder a fair resolution,taking away gun's from the good guy's will never work because then only bad guy's would have gun's.
I'm not trying to bait you on this but really what do think would work ,I know it's not a easy answer to come up with but you seem to be very anti gun's and what do you think would be fair to both parties ?
That was just one idea I have on the matter, and I'm not sure what the best, most efficient way to solve this matter is. Regardless of anything, I think escalating the notion that guns are necessary for your own protection and similar is inherently a bad idea. I know many disagree with me on this, but it's just my take. But I also think if we want to see results and better safety for all, sometimes we have to sacrifice temporary things for the greater good.
5b247x what would you conceder a fair resolution,taking away gun's from the good guy's will never work because then only bad guy's would have gun's.
I'm not trying to bait you on this but really what do think would work ,I know it's not a easy answer to come up with but you seem to be very anti gun's and what do you think would be fair to both parties ?
Godfather.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I know several individuals that carry guns 24/7. The ones that don’t let you know they have a weapon are level-headed while the ones that do let you know they have a gun are assholes with inferiority complexes.
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This is exactly how I feel.
I don't want some person who may or MAY NOT be mentally stable walking around in public with a gun. :geek:
cosmo, i'm so sick of you never getting the facts correct. dwight does not drive a camaro. it's a trans am.
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
see anyone other than a police officer ?
to be able to protect myself and loved ones.
BTW what about hunter's and sportsmen should they be punished for other people's deed's and the over all public paranoia, just askin.
Godfather.
What would you say to a program, much like getting a drivers liscence, where one has to pass a test, maybe go through some training, etc.. to own a gun?
......Along with the appropriate circumstances to use such handguns in that state.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
XLNT IDEA !!! when I was about 12 or 13 I took a gun safety and hunting class and the thing's I learned I still remember and use today although I don't hunt anymore gun safety is huge to me.
Godfather.
I had to do that to get a gun license in MA. I had to take a 2 day class taught by the state police and had to qualify at the shooting range it was held at. Then I paid my fee ($75 for the class and another $100 for a 6 yr license to carry) and I was all set.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
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EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
and he carries.
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Godfather.
Makes the bad guys think a little before they decide to carjack or mug someone.
Who said it on Bill Maher.. You want the best defense for your house, put up a confederate flag... I had a chuckle at that.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
But I'm in one of two states that don't allow me to defend myself.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
5b247x what would you conceder a fair resolution,taking away gun's from the good guy's will never work because then only bad guy's would have gun's.
I'm not trying to bait you on this but really what do think would work ,I know it's not a easy answer to come up with but you seem to be very anti gun's and what do you think would be fair to both parties ?
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Godfather.
Schumer is sitting there looking like the dipshit that he is.