cup of coffe and a 45 ?

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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    FiveB247x wrote:
    In my opinion, we should have like a ban on guns for like 2- 3 years. Anyone caught with one will be prosecuted and have it taken away. This would help get rid of the criminal aspects and generic "bad" parts of the issue. Then once this set ban passes, allow people to either re-submit for licenses and if pass, they get them back. It controls the negative aspects, yet rewards the good side in the long term and benefits society as a whole. The fact is, with any right we have, sometime we have to "make-do" or "give up some" to get it back even better in the long term.


    How's this going to work if the main problem is people using illegal guns in the first place? The only people who would follow your 2-3 year ban are the people who don't typically shoot up the streets in the first place.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Well here's the thing, if we had the nation behind it, who wouldn't want to rid their community of illegal guns and crime? And the people who you are describing would be easy to target then.
    rebornFixer wrote:
    How's this going to work if the main problem is people using illegal guns in the first place? The only people who would follow your 2-3 year ban are the people who don't typically shoot up the streets in the first place.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Well here's the thing, if we had the nation behind it, who wouldn't want to rid their community of illegal guns and crime? And the people who you are describing would be easy to target then.

    Maybe, but I guess I am thinking that a total ban is not needed to set the stage for more strict regulations. One can toughen up ownership requirements without wiping the whole slate clean. Also, gangbanger-types are not hard to identify now. Some hunter dressed up like Elmer Fudd looks nothing like the average male who commits handgun crimes. :)
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I don't know... to me it seems like a nothing but upside idea. I'm sure there's flaws in it, but if everyone was behind it, it would help everyone in society. To me, if you include everyone, it's just and across the board for everyone in society. I think if we did take such measures, two groups would have issues, gun nuts who are anti-government worried they'll never get them back and minority groups feeling they were unfairly targeted. But in the end, its not racism or soling out one particular group.. its for everyone benefit in society.
    rebornFixer wrote:
    Maybe, but I guess I am thinking that a total ban is not needed to set the stage for more strict regulations. One can toughen up ownership requirements without wiping the whole slate clean. Also, gangbanger-types are not hard to identify now. Some hunter dressed up like Elmer Fudd looks nothing like the average male who commits handgun crimes. :)
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    People fascinated by guns, feel so paranoid they carry guns, really really really creep me out.

    I knew a guy for a year who carried a concealed gun. Never felt same with him at all. He had a short fuse. Wonder if he is alive today.....?
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Smellyman wrote:
    People fascinated by guns, feel so paranoid they carry guns, really really really creep me out.

    I knew a guy for a year who carried a concealed gun. Never felt same with him at all. He had a short fuse. Wonder if he is alive today.....?

    People who feel they cannot leave the house without packing creep me out a bit too ... Someone who is just a hobbyist, who cares?
  • rustyrails
    rustyrails Posts: 16
    Why do they go through all the trouble of wearing a gun on their hip when all they have to do is wear a sign around their neck that says "DOUCHEBAG"?
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Just because we are afforded the right to do something, it doesn't make it the right thing to do.

    I wonder what % of heatpackers do so just to feel tough, as opposed to feeling safe/protected.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    I don't like being around strangers who are carrying guns. If I was in a Starbucks or any other public place and I saw someone walking around with a gun, I'd leave. Right then. I don't want to be around crazy people with guns.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yeah because all gun owners are crazy people.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    unsung wrote:
    Yeah because all gun owners are crazy people.

    I didn't say that.

    I DO think it's unnecessary and therefore kinda crazy to walk into restaurants and coffee shops with a gun on your hip though.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    for some reason "cup of coffee and a 45" reminds me of that store "40s and 9s" from that movie "dont be a menace to south central while drinking your gin and juice in the hood"...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    unsung wrote:
    Yeah because all gun owners are crazy people.
    Of course not... Having said that, I'd take a crazy man with a gun than a crazy man without a gun any day...
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    I guess what bothers me most about random people walking around with guns is that you never know which one is a person with anger management problems. I don't think gun purchases are restricted to patient, reasonable people.

    How'd you like to be in a ridiculously slow line in a store with some impatient jerk with a gun behind you? :?

    How'd you like to be the server in a restaurant to some angry guy with a gun?

    Really, the possibility for horrible situations with volatile people and guns is endless!!!
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    justam wrote:

    How'd you like to be in a ridiculously slow line in a store with some impatient jerk with a gun behind you? :?

    How'd you like to be the server in a restaurant to some angry guy with a gun?

    Really, the possibility for horrible situations with volatile people and guns is endless!!!

    lol! Someone said people are wanting to carry because they are scared. Who's really the scared ones?

    You realize the only thing that a ban would do is keeping the law abiding citizens from carrying, the gang bangers will still carry.

    I'm amazed some if you can find the nerve to even leave the house.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    unsung wrote:

    lol! Someone said people are wanting to carry because they are scared. Who's really the scared ones?

    You realize the only thing that a ban would do is keeping the law abiding citizens from carrying, the gang bangers will still carry.

    I'm amazed some if you can find the nerve to even leave the house.

    When people carry guns around they are behaving like bullies.
    I think they are cowards. The only reason to walk around with a gun is to try to intimidate people. I don't like bullies.

    It doesn't mean I won't leave the house, but I have a policy of avoiding people I don't like.

    Don't go insulting me and telling me that I "can't find the nerve to leave the house" just because I would avoid a gun-toting person. Give me a reasonable explanation for why they need to carry a weapon like that.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I wouldn't have a problem with people carrying guns.. if I didn't think people were assholes.
    This weekend... try this experiemnt.
    Go out to the mall or any othr busy public place... look around and all of the people... see how they act... what they are doing... all that crap.
    Then, ask yourself... would you feel safer knowing that all these people are carrying a loaded weapon?
    ...
    Seriously... would you? The airhead bimbo yaking away on her cell phone... carrying a loaded H&K 9mm. Guy that looks like he's a cast member of 'Jersey Shore'... got a Colt Peacemaker tucked in his pant waist.
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    People argue gun points with unrealistic variables. Here are the real facts we have to face:
    Not everyone is a psycho that is going to shoot up the place...
    and not every with a gun isn't an asshole.
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    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    justam wrote:

    How'd you like to be in a ridiculously slow line in a store with some impatient jerk with a gun behind you? :?

    How'd you like to be the server in a restaurant to some angry guy with a gun?

    Really, the possibility for horrible situations with volatile people and guns is endless!!!

    lol! Someone said people are wanting to carry because they are scared. Who's really the scared ones?

    You realize the only thing that a ban would do is keeping the law abiding citizens from carrying, the gang bangers will still carry.

    I'm amazed some if you can find the nerve to even leave the house.
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    When was the last time you ran across a 'Gang Banger'?
    When was the last time you ran across a law abiding citizen... who got irrate at you?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I live in a city that is filled with gang bangers but I don't go into their parts of town because I choose to avoid the problems.

    That being said they are mobile and go everywhere.

    I'd feel much safer with a law abiding citizen than some pos derelict. I grew up around guns and I own many. It doesn't make me a tough guy if o could carry, if nothing else I'd be on better behavior.

    I generally don't have too many people giving me much trouble, but I'm not 5'6" 160 lbs either.
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    So if people could take guns anywhere then they could take them to the bar, maybe a house party with a few kegs?

    Seems like a good idea to me :lol:
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