the new tour?

jamburger

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Yes, I did see the stats. So what? 2 1/2 of those years they had no new album. Since when does ANY band tour without an album to promote? Not to mention I can't imagine how grueling touring is on the body, and those guys aren't 20 anymore. And nobody knows what their future touring plans are.

Pearl Jam comes to mind... in 2004... 2005... 2008.

why now u dont bitching

MrMerkinball wrote:

They are getting a little older.

So are we. Remember that huge 2000 tour? a Europe Leg, and 2 huge 30 show legs in N.A.? That was 10 years ago.

Remember that huge 2006 tour? A huge over 30 show N.A. leg, a Europe leg of over 20 shows, and an Australian leg? That was 4 years ago. ONLY four years...didn't get that much older.

release23420

KevinR wrote:

MrMerkinball wrote:

They are getting a little older.

So are we. Remember that huge 2000 tour? a Europe Leg, and 2 huge 30 show legs in N.A.? That was 10 years ago.

Remember that huge 2006 tour? A huge over 30 show N.A. leg, a Europe leg of over 20 shows, and an Australian leg? That was 4 years ago. ONLY four years...didn't get that much older.

hey why do i have to quote somebody on my own post? anyways what i was meaning is spread the jam if you are going to play 10 shows do it all over not in one spot

JonnyPistachio

First of all, the tour is not the only time they put in:

Ed's solo shows took time.
Recording, mixing Backspacer took time.
Rehearsal of a catalog of over 100 original songs to prepare for a tour takes time.
The business aspects take time.
Surfing takes time.
And ultimatley, getting inspiration for creating new music takes time.

Who the hell knows how much time the guys have left over for their families.
Think about it, they are probably a lot busier thatn you realize! :roll:

CranMalReign

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Yes, I did see the stats. So what? 2 1/2 of those years they had no new album. Since when does ANY band tour without an album to promote?

Exactly! Glad someone said it!

There was no new album to promote, so those 2 1/2 years of family time don't count! Why can't any of you see that? When we're talking a lack of family time, we're only counting family time spent when there is something to tour for.

It's like when someone is unemployed for 6 months... and then get a new job and have to work overtime the first 3 weeks... holy crap! They need a vacation, b/c all they've done is work since they started working!

:roll:

Flagg

2003 Riot Act
73 Total
58 in North America
10 in Australia
5 in Japan

2004 VFC
10 shows? Including Boston?

2005
35 Total
26 in North America
9 in South America

2006
73 Total
38 in North America - However, 7 of these were as the opening band for Petty and/or U2. Also, most shows were muti-night stops in a very limited number of cities.
23 in Europe
12 in Australia

2007
14 Total
2 in North America
12 in Europe

2008
13 Total – all in North America

2009
43 Total
20 in North America (almost all repeats in very limited locations and some before Backspacer)
16 in Europe (before Backspacer)
7 in Australia/NZ

Flagg

JonnyPistachio wrote:

First of all, the tour is not the only time they put in:

Ed's solo shows took time.
Recording, mixing Backspacer took time.
Rehearsal of a catalog of over 100 original songs to prepare for a tour takes time.
The business aspects take time.
Surfing takes time.
And ultimatley, getting inspiration for creating new music takes time.

Who the hell knows how much time the guys have left over for their families.
Think about it, they are probably a lot busier thatn you realize! :roll:

Kool-aid is awesome.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Flagg wrote:

2003 Riot Act
73 Total
58 in North America
10 in Australia
5 in Japan

2004 VFC
10 shows? Including Boston?

2005
35 Total
26 in North America
9 in South America

2006
73 Total
38 in North America - However, 7 of these were as the opening band for Petty and/or U2. Also, most shows were muti-night stops in a very limited number of cities.
23 in Europe
12 in Australia

2007
14 Total
2 in North America
12 in Europe

2008
13 Total – all in North America

2009
43 Total
20 in North America (almost all repeats in very limited locations and some before Backspacer)
16 in Europe (before Backspacer)
7 in Australia/NZ

Dave Matthews plays 100 or so shows a year....

KingJeremyD

JonnyPistachio wrote:

First of all, the tour is not the only time they put in:

Ed's solo shows took time.
Recording, mixing Backspacer took time.
Rehearsal of a catalog of over 100 original songs to prepare for a tour takes time.
The business aspects take time.
Surfing takes time.
And ultimatley, getting inspiration for creating new music takes time.

Who the hell knows how much time the guys have left over for their families.
Think about it, they are probably a lot busier thatn you realize! :roll:

I agree with the other projects band members have going on..But, rehearsal and recording..This isn't a job they don't for eight hours a day..They pick and chose when to do this and for how long..

Surfing isn't a excuse...That is a vacation and I am sure their families are with them..

Business aspect..I am sure they pay some to do all this for them...Paid well..

Family excuse is bogus excuse...Unless they tour pretty much all year around like U2 or DMB does.

U R A Crazy Breed

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Flagg wrote:

2003 Riot Act
73 Total
58 in North America
10 in Australia
5 in Japan

2004 VFC
10 shows? Including Boston?

2005
35 Total
26 in North America
9 in South America

2006
73 Total
38 in North America - However, 7 of these were as the opening band for Petty and/or U2. Also, most shows were muti-night stops in a very limited number of cities.
23 in Europe
12 in Australia

2007
14 Total
2 in North America
12 in Europe

2008
13 Total – all in North America

2009
43 Total
20 in North America (almost all repeats in very limited locations and some before Backspacer)
16 in Europe (before Backspacer)
7 in Australia/NZ

Dave Matthews plays 100 or so shows a year....

yeah but....Dave Matthews sucks!!

Flagg

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Dave Matthews plays 100 or so shows a year....

Yep, exactly. Don't bother pulling other band's tour dates to compare because it would be no comparison.

I can't believe that was all they bothered doing for Backspacer.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

The waitresses at the IHOP....

Will work harder today.....

Than Pearl Jam has worked in the last 3 years....Combined.....

pandora

Last show in Philly was my first time to witness up close what the guys put into a show. My God they give it everything body and soul. All of them amazing. Multiply that by day after day show after show it would be exhausting. I for one want them to take care of themselves- not push- enjoy us and their lives and each other.
Its whatever balance they come up with that works for them. We are the fans along for the ride and what a ride its been.

KingJeremyD

We can debate how much time the band members spend with their families for on and on..But, I am pretty sure they spend more time with their families probably 75% of their fans get to..

sagapo1

JonnyPistachio wrote:

First of all, the tour is not the only time they put in:

Ed's solo shows took time.
Recording, mixing Backspacer took time.
Rehearsal of a catalog of over 100 original songs to prepare for a tour takes time.
The business aspects take time.
Surfing takes time.
And ultimatley, getting inspiration for creating new music takes time.

Who the hell knows how much time the guys have left over for their families.
Think about it, they are probably a lot busier thatn you realize! :roll:

You seem like the only one here with some sense.
I'm glad these people aren't my parents. :twisted:

KingJeremyD

pandora wrote:

Last show in Philly was my first time to witness up close what the guys put into a show. My God they give it everything body and soul. All of them amazing. Multiply that by day after day show after show it would be exhausting. I for one want them to take care of themselves- not push- enjoy us and their lives and each other.
Its whatever balance they come up with that works for them. We are the fans along for the ride and what a ride its been.

I agree with that..But,concerts last 2.5 hours on average...I would be willing to take off a month of work...Let one of the band members do my job..See how that works out for them...I take my month off to spend time with my family...Don't get me wrong..Pearl Jam has earned everything they got and work hard for it...

Jeremy

Drop1The0Leash

Crazy4Cords wrote:

pandora wrote:

Last show in Philly was my first time to witness up close what the guys put into a show. My God they give it everything body and soul. All of them amazing. Multiply that by day after day show after show it would be exhausting. I for one want them to take care of themselves- not push- enjoy us and their lives and each other.
Its whatever balance they come up with that works for them. We are the fans along for the ride and what a ride its been.

I agree with that..But,concerts last 2.5 hours on average...I would be willing to take off a month of work...Let one of the band members do my job..See how that works out for them...I take my month off to spend time with my family...Don't get me wrong..Pearl Jam has earned everything they got and work hard for it...

Jeremy

Maybe you could sign up for CBS's show Undercover Boss?

Better Dan

Crazy4Cords wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

First of all, the tour is not the only time they put in:

Ed's solo shows took time.
Recording, mixing Backspacer took time.
Rehearsal of a catalog of over 100 original songs to prepare for a tour takes time.
The business aspects take time.
Surfing takes time.
And ultimatley, getting inspiration for creating new music takes time.

Who the hell knows how much time the guys have left over for their families.
Think about it, they are probably a lot busier thatn you realize! :roll:

I agree with the other projects band members have going on..But, rehearsal and recording..This isn't a job they don't for eight hours a day..They pick and chose when to do this and for how long..

Surfing isn't a excuse...That is a vacation and I am sure their families are with them..

Business aspect..I am sure they pay some to do all this for them...Paid well..

Family excuse is bogus excuse...Unless they tour pretty much all year around like U2 or DMB does.

I agree with you Crazy4Cords.

Also, Ed has said they don't spend much time rehearsing. Trying to use surfing and inspiration as an excuse is just laughable. Why can't we just admit that the band doesnt want to tour as much as they used to and not make up excuses (i.e. they want to be with their family). Who cares why they don't want to it's just obvious that they don't.

For all we know, it could just be one member of the band that wants the scaled back tours.

Better Dan

Flagg wrote:

2003 Riot Act
73 Total
58 in North America
10 in Australia
5 in Japan

2004 VFC
10 shows? Including Boston?

2005
35 Total
26 in North America
9 in South America

2006
73 Total
38 in North America - However, 7 of these were as the opening band for Petty and/or U2. Also, most shows were muti-night stops in a very limited number of cities.
23 in Europe
12 in Australia

2007
14 Total
2 in North America
12 in Europe

2008
13 Total – all in North America

2009
43 Total
20 in North America (almost all repeats in very limited locations and some before Backspacer)
16 in Europe (before Backspacer)
7 in Australia/NZ

Thanks for the stats. I wonder if most of us complaining live in areas that have not seen Pearl Jam since 2003. If they skip the South again this year, Europe will have seen Pearl Jam 4 times since places like Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston have seen a proper PJ show. While I'm very happy for our European and NE friends, it would be nice to get a bone once and a while. 3 dates could have been added in 06 (1 TX, 1 ATL, and another Southern date) and many of us would not be complaining as much.

I am happy we got ACL last year, but some PJ only shows in some of the country's biggest cities isn't too much to ask for is it?

pandora

Well I think the guys really like Europe and their fans there as much as the states. The world- its like one big home to them, being loved and appreciated all over.
As far as the South- we did get dates- Columbia was awesome and there were FL dates Bonnaroo and VA.
This year they will do the Jazzfest.
I think they spread the love pretty well and we just need to save our money and travel to the closest city if they don't play our hometowns.