CCTV footage of the hitsquad in Dubai

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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    yeah, that was awesome.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,915
    This shit is fucking crazy.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    that was wild...they have nearly 30 minutes of video evidence. it is amazing how coordinated this was and to watch it all play out on video is kind of messing with me. i am also surprised that most of them were british nationals with a couple of irish, a frenchman, and a german. i will say that i am really surprised that none of them were isreali or from any other middle eastern country. those would have been my first guess because it is a logical assumption..
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    yes crazy indeed there had to someone with money backing them...
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  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    that was wild...they have nearly 30 minutes of video evidence. it is amazing how coordinated this was and to watch it all play out on video is kind of messing with me. i am also surprised that most of them were british nationals with a couple of irish, a frenchman, and a german. i will say that i am really surprised that none of them were isreali or from any other middle eastern country. those would have been my first guess because it is a logical assumption..

    The passports are fake. Britian, Ireland, France and Germany are calling their Israeli ambassadors to demand explanations.

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/kill-squad- ... -ojgc.html

    Dubai's police chief said on Thursday he believed Israeli agents were involved in killing a Hamas militant in the emirate, and called for the Mossad spy agency's boss to be arrested if its reponsibility was proved.

    As an international row over last month's attack escalated, Paris, London and Dublin all demanded explanations from Israel on why passport details of their citizens had been used by the suspected hit squad last month.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/1 ... -passports

    Israel remains silent over use of forged British passports in Dubai assassination

    Britain sends investigators to emirate as local police chief points finger at Mossad over killing of Hamas official

    Julian Borger and Richard Norton-Taylor - guardian.co.uk, Thursday 18 February 2010


    Britain today declared its "outrage" at the use of forged British passports by a hit squad that killed a Hamas official in Dubai, and dispatched police investigators to the Gulf emirate to collect evidence.

    The officers from the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) arrived in the United Arab Emirates as the investigation focused increasingly on Israel. The Dubai police chief declared that he was "99%, if not 100% certain" of Mossad's involvement, and called on Interpol to issue an arrest warrant for the Israeli spy chief, Meir Dagan. While SOCA is concentrating specifically on the misuse of British passports, it is understood that MI6 is conducting a broader, parallel probe into Israeli involvement.

    Britain, Ireland and France stepped up diplomatic pressure on Israel, demanding explanations on the use of forged European passports by the assassins who targeted Mahmoud al-Mabhouh on 19 January.

    However, the initial response from the Israeli envoys in London and Dublin was that they had nothing to say about the affair, bringing closer the prospect of a high-level diplomatic row. The Israeli embassy made no comment on its meeting at the French foreign ministry, which "expressed its deep concern about the malicious and fraudulent use of these French administrative documents."

    The US also looked likely to be drawn into the affair for the first time, after the Wall Street Journal reported that Mabhouh's assassins had used American-registered credit cards to buy plane tickets.

    The foreign secretary, David Miliband, said the Israeli ambassador to London, Ron Prosor, had been asked to shed light on how the identities of six British citizens living in Israel had been stolen and used by the assassins. The foreign secretary said any tampering with British passports was "an outrage". Miliband said: "We wanted to give Israel every opportunity to share what it knows about this incident and we hope and expect that they will cooperate fully with the investigation."

    Prosor, however, said he was "unable to add information" on the matter, and his counterpart in Dublin, Zion Evrony, delivered a similar response to a top Irish diplomat. "I told him I don't know anything about the event – beyond that it is not customary to share the content of diplomatic meetings," Evrony said.

    Ireland's foreign minister Michael Martin revealed that a further two Irish passports were used in the assassination, bringing the total number of Irish travel documents involved to five as speculation grew that the size of the hit squad was bigger than the 11 originally reported.

    British diplomats in Israel have been meeting the six British nationals caught up in the assassination plot when their identities were used by the hit team. Foreign office officials said that none of the six had reported their passports stolen so the documents used by the killers appeared to be sophisticated clones. SOCA said the numbers on the fake passports were the same as the genuine ones. It confirmed the photographs and signatures on the passports used in Dubai do not match those on passports issued by British authorities.

    Miliband is to meet in Brussels on Monday with his Israeli counterpart, Avigdor Lieberman, who has insisted there is no proof of Israeli involvement, and stressed that his government employed a "policy of ambiguity" on intelligence matters.

    In Dubai, however, the emirate's police chief, Dahi Khalfan Tamim, called on local television for Interpol to issue "a red notice against the head of Mossad … as a killer in case Mossad is proved to be behind the crime, which is likely now."

    British officials said last night it was too early to speculate on what measures Britain might take against Israel if the government remained uncooperative.

    One possible consequence could be Britain's response to an Israeli request to change its 'universal jurisdiction' law on war crimes, under which a London magistrates court issued an arrest warrant in December for Israel's former foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, for her role in the Gaza offensive a year earlier.

    Livni cancelled her planned visit to London as a result, leading Miliband to promise the law would be changed. "Israel is a strategic partner and a close friend of the UK. We are determined to protect and develop these ties," Miliband said.

    However, there have been growing calls for the relationship to be reassessed if Israel is proved to have been involved in the forging of British passports in the Mabhouh assassination. Sir Richard Dalton, Britain's ambassador to Iran from 2003 to 2006 said: "All this just says how pathetic and ludicrous the claim is that Israel is Britain's strategic partner."


    The Conservative leader, David Cameron, said Israel must provide assurances it would ban Mossad from using UK travel papers. He also called on the government to make clear when it knew about the use of falsified British passports.

    The Dubai authorities said they had asked Britain for assistance at the end of January, but the foreign office insists it was only informed of the British connection hours before it was made public.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    What I fail to understand is why all the fuss is about the fact that the Israelis used fake British passports. Surely the focus should instead be on the fact that the Israelis carried out an assassination, which is in itself a serious breach of international law.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited February 2010
    I wonder how long it will be before the Israeli killers turn their attention to critics of the Israeli occupation? For all anyone knows there could soon be Israeli assassins aiming their guns at people like Norman Finkelstein, and Jimmy Carter. How long will the world sit back and allow this terrorist rogue state to run amok?
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder how long it will be before the Israeli killers turn their attention to critics of the Israeli occupation? For all anyone knows there could soon be Israeli assassins aiming their guns at people like Norman Finkelstein, a will and Jimmy Carter. How long will the world sit back and allow this terrorist rogue state to run amok?

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I am thinking they have bigger fish to fry than Jimmy Carter.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder how long it will be before the Israeli killers turn their attention to critics of the Israeli occupation? For all anyone knows there could soon be Israeli assassins aiming their guns at people like Norman Finkelstein, and Jimmy Carter. How long will the world sit back and allow this terrorist rogue state to run amok?

    it upsets me to even think of anything happening to them.

    problem is most people are too busy worrying about whether Tiger Woods will ever play golf again, or if family guy were mean to Sarah Palin, to worry about Israeli killers.

    meanwhile back in the REAL world, Israel carrys out assasinations, continues with the illegal, brutal and inhumane occupation of the Palestinian people, murders innocent children, and so it goes on. funded by America. every single day.

    this shit has to stop.
  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    edited February 2010
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What I fail to understand is why all the fuss is about the fact that the Israelis used fake British passports. Surely the focus should instead be on the fact that the Israelis carried out an assassination, which is in itself a serious breach of international law.
    yes the focus should be on that but for some reason Israel are above international law and they get away with all of their crimes. no one has even attempted stop their aggression. none of their leaders have ever been charged with war crimes or loudly condemned by the US Government.

    if it was anyone else, in any other country doing what Israel does, no leader with half a brain or an ounce of integrity or compassion, would condone their actions.

    here's something to think about. take out Israel and swap it with Iran. if this was Iran doing the same thing to Palestine, you can bet your ass there would be a different reaction from the world leaders. foreign militaries would be falling over themselves to try and have some input. Iran would be loudly proclaimed as the biggest terrorists ever.

    not Israel tho. they seem to be able to do whatever the hell they like.

    whys that again?
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722

    if it was anyone else, in any other country doing what Israel does, no leader with half a brain or an ounce of integrity or compassion, would condone their actions.

    It may have to do with the fact that Israel is putting hits on people who are considered "terrorists" (or significant supporters of terrorist groups) in the eyes of the US and some of Europe. That would also explain why the European countries are complaining mostly about forgeries than the killing.
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  • is there anyone that believes that this happens only by Israelians and with out other secret service help??
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  • CJMST3K wrote:

    if it was anyone else, in any other country doing what Israel does, no leader with half a brain or an ounce of integrity or compassion, would condone their actions.

    It may have to do with the fact that Israel is putting hits on people who are considered "terrorists" (or significant supporters of terrorist groups) in the eyes of the US and some of Europe. That would also explain why the European countries are complaining mostly about forgeries than the killing.
    doesn't answer my question.
    why does Israel continue to act without any respect for international law?

    dumb asses. it's a wonder they didn't just just use white phosphate on him like they did on the kids they murdered in December.
  • is there anyone that believes that this happens only by Israelians and with out other secret service help??
    it's sickening that you would defend them here and try and take attention off of their actions. this thread is about what they did, not what anyone else may have done. two wrongs don't make a right.

    why do people bend over backwards to defend their actions on everything they do?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    CJMST3K wrote:

    if it was anyone else, in any other country doing what Israel does, no leader with half a brain or an ounce of integrity or compassion, would condone their actions.

    It may have to do with the fact that Israel is putting hits on people who are considered "terrorists" (or significant supporters of terrorist groups) in the eyes of the US and some of Europe. That would also explain why the European countries are complaining mostly about forgeries than the killing.


    if that guy was an israeli they'd create a ribbon commemorating his actions ;)
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  • is there anyone that believes that this happens only by Israelians and with out other secret service help??
    it's sickening that you would defend them here and try and take attention off of their actions. this thread is about what they did, not what anyone else may have done. two wrongs don't make a right.

    why do people bend over backwards to defend their actions on everything they do?
    what??defend them??fuck them!!!.. they are merders!!!i just say they are not alone..other countrys help them!!
    cant anyone have a different opinion??whats the matter with u people???
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    is there anyone that believes that this happens only by Israelians and with out other secret service help??
    it's sickening that you would defend them here and try and take attention off of their actions. this thread is about what they did, not what anyone else may have done. two wrongs don't make a right.

    why do people bend over backwards to defend their actions on everything they do?


    what??defend them??fuck them!!!.. they are merders!!!i just say they are not alone..other countrys help them!!
    cant anyone have a different opinion??whats the matter with u people???


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  • is there anyone that believes that this happens only by Israelians and with out other secret service help??
    it's sickening that you would defend them here and try and take attention off of their actions. this thread is about what they did, not what anyone else may have done. two wrongs don't make a right.

    why do people bend over backwards to defend their actions on everything they do?
    what??defend them??fuck them!!!.. they are merders!!!i just say they are not alone..other countrys help them!!
    cant anyone have a different opinion??whats the matter with u people???
    of course you can have a different opinion.

    and i'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why Israel continues to act without any respect for international law?

    anyone?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    is there anyone that believes that this happens only by Israelians and with out other secret service help??
    it's sickening that you would defend them here and try and take attention off of their actions. this thread is about what they did, not what anyone else may have done. two wrongs don't make a right.

    why do people bend over backwards to defend their actions on everything they do?
    what??defend them??fuck them!!!.. they are merders!!!i just say they are not alone..other countrys help them!!
    cant anyone have a different opinion??whats the matter with u people???


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  • of course you can have a different opinion.

    and i'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why Israel continues to act without any respect for international law?

    anyone?
    couse they are the foot of the west in middle east..they need them there..USA,UK..etc
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    OK ... So people got REALLY irritated with me a while back when I suggested that some of the threads on here veer close to sympathizing with Hamas. And now, everyone is freaking out and losing sleep because someone who lives by a violent ideology and who plans terror attacks got bumped off. Now, we are not talking about kids or other civilians in Palestine (to which I can understand the outrage). Instead, we are all pissed because Israel killed a known terrorist? Someone explain this stuff to me, I am truly confused now. Does all the outrage really stem from "violating international law"?
  • OK ... So people got REALLY irritated with me a while back when I suggested that some of the threads on here veer close to sympathizing with Hamas. And now, everyone is freaking out and losing sleep because someone who lives by a violent ideology and who plans terror attacks got bumped off. Now, we are not talking about kids or other civilians in Palestine (to which I can understand the outrage). Instead, we are all pissed because Israel killed a known terrorist? Someone explain this stuff to me, I am truly confused now. Does all the outrage really stem from "violating international law"?

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    well you're easily confused then. if you read my posts you will see that's what i'm saying. Israels actions show they do think they are above international law. and if you're not referring to me then who are you referring to?

    now we've cleared that up, what exactly are you trying to say? don't play games. i'm not in the mood to be fucked with tonight,

    maybe you might wanna answer the question i've asked so many times here. why does Israel continue to act without any respect for international law?

    and you know what else. i'm so tired of these threads turning into some message board chest thumping arena where people want to pick you to pieces by trying to insinuate that there's a bigger agenda. that's bullshit and it's not true, i don't think there is anyone here who has a hidden agenda.

    all i've ever cared about is the welfare of the ordinary Palestinian people who lives are fucked because of Israels illegal, brutal and inhumane occupation. they do think they are above international law. the subject of this thread is just another example of it.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    OK ... So people got REALLY irritated with me a while back when I suggested that some of the threads on here veer close to sympathizing with Hamas. And now, everyone is freaking out and losing sleep because someone who lives by a violent ideology and who plans terror attacks got bumped off.

    As far as terror attacks go, would you then condone the assassination of all of the top Israeli hierarchy for their terrorist acts? Or was the snuffing out of the lives of 1000 civilians last year not a terrorist act?

    Why did they not simply arrest al-Mabhouh instead?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Byrnzie wrote:
    OK ... So people got REALLY irritated with me a while back when I suggested that some of the threads on here veer close to sympathizing with Hamas. And now, everyone is freaking out and losing sleep because someone who lives by a violent ideology and who plans terror attacks got bumped off.

    As far as terror attacks go, would you then condone the assassination of all of the top Israeli hierarchy for their terrorist acts? Or was the snuffing out of the lives of 1000 civilians last year not a terrorist act?

    Why did they not simply arrest al-Mabhouh instead?
    exactly, if they can get close enough to murder him in his hotel room they were close enough to arrest him...
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    One countrys terrorist is another countrys freedom fighter. Just cuz the fucken news or media label someone a terrorist it doesn't make that person a terrorist. It's amazing how the founding fathers of America used terrorist acts against the British but they were called FREEDOM FIGHTERS, but yet when an Arab country decides to defend it's people or country theyre labeled terrorists. But I dnt understand why everyone except mr reborn are getting all worked up. Israel has and will continue to do whatever it wants. It will NEVER listen to anyone or do as anyone tells her to. You want to stop "so-called" terroism? Then stop allowing Israel free rein on anything. Stop supporting Israel with a BLIND eye. All the fucken policy pushers in DC are cowards. All the Arab leaders are scumbags. Do what Israel does, buy congress and the senators. Fill there pockets up with rich Arab money like the Israelis do. Maybe if some congress or senators actually had some REAL balls something would get done, but dnt hold your breathe cuz they're all fucken cowards. EVERY single one of them. From the president to the lowest member of congress, all COWARDS. But hey, atleast there pockets are filled and there hands have innocent blood all over them. America your democracy is FOR SALE.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    now we've cleared that up, what exactly are you trying to say? don't play games. i'm not in the mood to be fucked with tonight,

    Classic response ... Post one of your pictures and then get all defensive. Forget it.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    hehe i read a comment somewhere of someone saying Hamas did this and tried to frame Israel. it obviously wasn't Israel because they wouldn't have been so sloppy to have been captured on video (hard to avoid in Dubai and they changed disguises) or to have used fake passports of people that moved to Israel.

    i don't think they expected the hitsquad being identified like they were.
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    hehe i read a comment somewhere of someone saying Hamas did this and tried to frame Israel. it obviously wasn't Israel because they wouldn't have been so sloppy to have been captured on video (hard to avoid in Dubai and they changed disguises) or to have used fake passports of people that moved to Israel.

    i don't think they expected the hitsquad being identified like they were.

    There IS infighting amongst the Palestinian factions, but yeah, the Hamas inside job theory doesn't make much sense.
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