BACKSPACER...6 months In What Do We Think

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  • HaijayHaijay Posts: 379
    force of nature is one of the band's best songs ALL TIME
    Im with you on that!" No wonderland pulling Alice in the hole", fucken brilliant! Where would he come up with that? :o
  • Another song I really like, especially after hearing it live, is Supersonic. I don't understand the hate for this. I wouldn't compare it to Big Wave - it's way better.

    On the whole, I'd have to say that Backspacer is Pearl Jam's best album since... umm Avocado. Of course, I love Avocado (except for Big Wave), and many people on here seem to not care for it.

    I think Backspacer is a very solid album, not in the upper echelon of PJ albums, but a really good effort. I'd like it to have been a little longer, but I think that was the point. Hopefully we get a nice little EP soon.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,363
    Still digging it. All killer, no filler. Still hasn't left my car since Sept. 20. I'm pretty sure that's a record.
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  • jwagnerjwagner Posts: 435
    SUPER strong album. At first it seemed, I don't know, too short maybe? And then some of the more atmospheric stuff ("Just Breathe", "The End") seemed to end too quickly...but after a few listens, and now about 30 more, I think it might be their best. I can't name a better Pearl Jam album right now. No filler at all, although "Got Some" doesn't always hit me hard...everything else has memorability, momentum and emotional content that floors me every time. Perfectly sequenced too. Even wondering if maybe it's not their best?

    "Force of Nature" is the greatest!!!
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  • 6 months later...I still hate it. For me, it's not even in the discography.
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  • PlanktonPlankton Posts: 692
    imalive wrote:
    It's a good album but as I said in a previous thread (and got lambasted for):

    There is not one single song on it which will ever get a crowd reaction/euphoria like RVM, Porch, Present Tennse, etc, etc, etc when played LIVE. :shh:
    Is that because of the songs or the time at which it's being released, in your mind?

    Personally I think it's because it's so new, coming after such a long history. For fans that have been to many shows, it's never going to kindle the feeling of past experiences and for fans that don't go mad and go on every tour, well PJ to them is probably Ten - Yield at the most anyway.

    For me Backspacer has some outstanding songs. My brother was saying to me just the other day after listening to it again how it seems to 'fit' right in with the rest of the catalogue, like it's been around a long time. I think I'd agree too.
  • 6 months in. time flies. glass way more that 1/2 full. tho, i could use some more wine. the albums, for me, are the background to what this band is all about, and that to me, is seeing/hearing them play LIVE. that is where the songs take real form, for me. hearing all of the new songs played live for the first time is what i'm always looking forward to the most. i can't get enough of the new stuff, EVER and i'm still here cause i am a big fan of all of the new stuff, backspacer includedx10
  • FahkaFahka Posts: 3,187
    I just hope i don't feel like this guy in a few years > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd4O5jXKPeQ

    :mrgreen:
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,961
    Plankton wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    It's a good album but as I said in a previous thread (and got lambasted for):

    There is not one single song on it which will ever get a crowd reaction/euphoria like RVM, Porch, Present Tennse, etc, etc, etc when played LIVE. :shh:
    Is that because of the songs or the time at which it's being released, in your mind?

    Personally I think it's because it's so new, coming after such a long history. For fans that have been to many shows, it's never going to kindle the feeling of past experiences

    PART of it is what you're saying about the newness................but mostly it's the songs. They just don't hold up against 90% of Pearl Jam's previous catalog (IMO).

    Did I mention I do like Backspacer? ;)
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  • I love Backspacer. I could not love it anymore.
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,363
    By the way, six months from Sept. 20 is March 20. It's February 18. So, we're not even 5 months in. There's no need to rush!
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,961
    I love Backspacer. I could not love it anymore.

    Have you listened to Pearl jam's earlier stuff? ;):lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,240
    My opnion on the new album has been the same since the 1st time I listened to it the day it came out, overall its a great album, but I wouldn't say that it would be in my top 5 pj albums, BUT it has to be either 3 or 4 as far as putting in a cd and not skipping any songs, my favorite album is no code but I can't stand hail hail or who you are and dont care for in my tree, vitology is good but same with other songs on there, overall these 2 are better than Backspacer but don't play as well if your listening from front to back. IMO
  • I love it more now than I did when it was first released.

    Songs like Johnny Guitar and Gonna See My Friend reallly have grown on me and I think it's a great complete album. I saw Supersonic, The Fixer and Got Some performed in August and loved every minute of each song... really looking forward to seeing more from the album in June :thumbup:
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    BF25394 wrote:
    Still digging it. All killer, no filler. Still hasn't left my car since Sept. 20. I'm pretty sure that's a record.
    Same here. Still really enjoying it. :)
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  • pjamaholicpjamaholic Posts: 1,225
    I still listen to it more than any other album. Get sick of listening to the radio, what do I wanna hear but something off Backspacer so I stick it in the cd player and off I go. 15 mins to get to work, that means I get to hear several of my favourite songs of Backspacer. Amongst the Waves, Unthought Known, Force of Nature and Johnny Guitar are my favourites, but the others are cool too. I love the album!
  • Johnny Guitar is still my favorite song on Backspacer. Love it.


    Still the song I skip every time. Still hasn't grown on me. Unthought Known and Force Of Nature are my favorites.
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  • I pulled it off the shelf after a few weeks and now that the dust has settled, it is second to only Yield for me.

    An amazing album that will be looked back on as one of their best. JB, FoN, Amongst the Waves, Unthought Known, Supersonic, The Fixer (even though I might be in the minority here), and Speed of Sound (again, in the minority) are all great songs...FoN, Amongst the Waves, JB and Unthought Known being right up there with some of the best stuff they've ever done. Like someone said earlier, all killer, no filler. Also, this is the album that pushed my wife into becoming a fan. She loves the album and wasn't too fond of Pearl Jam before Backspacer came out.
  • FrannyFranny Posts: 2,054
    At first I was a bit meh! about it, but when I heard them played in Brissie, the wow factor kicked in. I think we were pretty lucky, we got 7/11 songs off backspacer played...would have loved to hear supersonic played live though.... needless to say brissie boots are still the most played for me, and is good as a pick me up when feeling a tad low. :D
  • Amongst The Waves - I expect a rock band to wear its heart on its sleeve occasionally, and to give voice to feelings that I am unable or unwilling to express myself.

    Beautifully put, sir.
  • FrannyFranny Posts: 2,054
    pjfanman wrote:
    I pulled it off the shelf after a few weeks and now that the dust has settled, it is second to only Yield for me.

    An amazing album that will be looked back on as one of their best. JB, FoN, Amongst the Waves, Unthought Known, Supersonic, The Fixer (even though I might be in the minority here), and Speed of Sound (again, in the minority) are all great songs...FoN, Amongst the Waves, JB and Unthought Known being right up there with some of the best stuff they've ever done. Like someone said earlier, all killer, no filler. Also, this is the album that pushed my wife into becoming a fan. She loves the album and wasn't too fond of Pearl Jam before Backspacer came out.


    mmmm love Speed of Sound
  • dannydanny Posts: 2,277
    i love it!!!!!!!!!
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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    imalive wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    It's a good album but as I said in a previous thread (and got lambasted for):

    There is not one single song on it which will ever get a crowd reaction/euphoria like RVM, Porch, Present Tennse, etc, etc, etc when played LIVE. :shh:

    Unthought Known did that and more in Philly.

    Sorry, fellow Cowboy fan ;) ...... I saw Unthought Known four times on the last tour and none of them were Porch moments (for me, at least).

    Maybe so. I personally didn't think anything could top the crowd reaction to In Hiding, but I thought Unthought Known got pretty damn close.

    But then, we have a limited sample since they haven't really toured for Backspacer.
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  • I do not like the production of the album. To me, whenever I listen to most of the songs it sounds like there is a new member of the band who does not fit in, or that somebody came along and added a layer on top of the existing music artificially. Basically, it seems like somebody (*cough* Brendan) wanked on some perfectly good music. This is their first album where I've also felt like they've slipped into some easy listening radio station territory. It has nothing to do with whether a song is fast or slow, but is about some intangible cheese factor.

    Having said that, I am pleasantly surprised when I see the songs performed live and the band (especially Stone) seems to have some welcome vitality back. In the end, I'm left wishing that Brendan would have stepped back and let Mike step forward to fill the spaces that Brendan felt he had to. I know that Brendan has an almost cultish following around here, but I'm one who is hoping the band chooses a different producer next time who doesn't want to be an extra band member on the album.
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    To me, it's my favorite album. And no, I'm not a typical newest is best type.

    I think Backspacer is #1, followed closely by Yield and Ten. Down at the bottom of my list I have Riot Act and Binaural.

    I love the optimism on Backspacer. To me it just strikes me as a mature record. Something you can turn on and listen to all the way through, just like Yield.... but, slightly better.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • Like this album less and less every time I hear it. Hear Just Breathe on the muzak station at work (retail box store). Only song I still enjoy from the album is Amongst the Waves, the rest I couldn't even really get into live (the 3 they played at Chicago night 2). Hoping the EP or even the Xmas single will restore my faith. Riding the bottom of the album rankings along with Avocado and Riot Act (I'm a No Code/Yield/Binaural kind of guy).
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  • The Cd is my least favorite, played it for about a month or so but its been collecting dust ever since. speed of sound,johnny guitar and force of nature are good but everything else i could live without. Every pearl jam album except BSpacer is damn near F'n God like :o .
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