Republican Party Raids the Tea Party

FiveB247x

These comments are not to detract from the awful work our Dems have done in power, but to just make a point about the Reps and Tea party.

Ok so are far as I hear and read, these are a few of the major issues they discuss:

Fiscal responsibility, the budget and free market
-last 3 Rep Administrations had the highest recorded national debts and budgets in the history of our nation- Reagan, Bush, Bush
-also if you recall, the repubs conservative savior, reagan, was always intervening in business and the market, he bailed out the airline industry, broke up many unions and interfered in strikes to side with big business's
- Bush Jr had one of the worst records for corporate greed and side dealing in our history

Foreign Policy
- War on drugs
- war on terror
- nuclear escalation
- there's probably tons more we could include

Limited government
-each party has continued the growth of government and its influence for decades now, this is nothing new

Personal responsibility
- not really sure what this refers too - kinda vague

KDH12 wrote:

nope because you make the argument about the constitution and church vs state and all these other things

not the real issues we are dealing with as country

tea party stance gets lost in the muck

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

I repeat myself why spent hundreds of thousands in court cost alone... to remove monuments that have been in place for years, were is the tolerance...these things should be thrown out of court as frivolous......I never said we need to turn into a Christian Nation I am saying this country was founded on Christian beliefs ....I think it’s unnecessary to strip of its history or culture....I am not even advocating that everyone should be Christian or believe in God.....Just stop trying to remove God from were he is now.
I am talking about Monuments not billboards

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That is what I was pointing out...
In the case of the Ten Commandments in front of the Texas State Capital in Austin... it has been ruled it can stay since it has come to stand for heritage and not an endorsement of one religion over another.
In Judge Roy Moore's case... he wanted to place a monument in the lobby of the Alabama Court Building in 2003 (or so). A Public servant to place an religious symbol in a public (tax payer) building. He was not allowed to do so.
If he were allowed to do that.. what would keep a Jew from placing a Star of David in a courthouse... or a Muslim placing a Crescent Moon? Nothing. If you allow one, you HAVE to allow all. All three religions worship the same God.
This way, Ten Commandments, Stars of David and Crescent Moons are not allowed.

florence151

You should really go back to this post and edit it. You are not making sense.
Also, using racial epithets is offensive, unethical, divisive, and illogical. :!:

brandon10 wrote:

unsung wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

where were these people when bush was running up the deficits?? it is a very simple question...where were they??
these are probably the same people that were fine with giving away their rights in support of the patriot act and were fine with "supporting our troops" with hundreds of billions of dollars wasted on the military and military contractors in the wars in iraq and afghanistan...

and you can not tell me that the people holding up those signs saying "dont take from medicare to pay for government run health care" are constitutionalists and libertarians....most constitutionalists and libertarians seem to be farily intelligent. these people at these rallys appear to be pretty damn stupid...

There are stupid people in all walks of life. The people holding up these signs mean as much to the tea party as Rev Wright does for liberals. Unfortunately these types of people make the news, and as we know media sucks in this country, they only look for a story that make people emotional.

Smart people can read through the BS and not label any "movement" with a few idiots.

It's not just "a few idiots". These rallys are packed with morons preaching hate. It was a good time to start a political movement toward fiscal responsibilty and spending awareness. Sadly that movement got hijacked by right-wing wingnuts mad that a nigger(socialist, marxist, communist, facist) is president.

And I think "teabagger" a become negative much the way the word "retard" has become negative. They have brought it upon themselves.

Cosmo

aerial wrote:

your analogy is so off base.... the world is not flat..... your saying atheist are going to put up something this day....I’m talking about things that have been posted , erected for years....and all of a sudden one person does not like it ....WTF. I’m talking culture and history....not the fact that there are some people that hate for example Christmas..... so now it’s wrong to say Merry Christmas...Damn, how many years have we been saying that.......and it’s not the masses that don’t want Christmas...It’s a few hypocrites that want to take away American culture, the history and are in tolerant of others....as they preach tolerance....
If these things were hurting someone I would agree but how the hell is saying Merry Christmas hurting anyone....how is the Ten Commandments on a monument hurting anyone?

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You can say 'Merry Chirstmas' to anyone you want... watch...
"MERRY FUCKING CHRSTMAS!!!"
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See? No cops coming to tase me and haul me off to prison.
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The 'Happy Holidays' thing came about because retailers want non-Christian dollars, too. Jewish dollars, Muslim dollars, Hindu dollars, Buddhist dollars, Aetheist dollars... they all spend the same.
As far as Nativity Scenes.... you can put them on your lawn... or at your churches... just NOT on publicly funded property. If you were to allow Nativity Scenes, then you would HAVE to also allow minoras and Festivus poles, too. Christmas trees dressed with Pagan ritual fertility balls... are okay. So is Santa Claus and Rudolph and jingle bells and decking the Halls with Holly's Balls and all that shit.
No one gets offended if you wish them a Merry Christmas... just as you would not get offended if someone wishes you a Happy Chaunnakah or Happy Holidays... right?
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As for the Ten Commandments... to Christians... it means they should not work on Sunday.

brandon10

florence151 wrote:

You should really go back to this post and edit it. You are not making sense.
Also, using racial epithets is offensive, unethical, divisive, and illogical. :!:

brandon10 wrote:

unsung wrote:

where were these people when bush was running up the deficits?? it is a very simple question...where were they??
these are probably the same people that were fine with giving away their rights in support of the patriot act and were fine with "supporting our troops" with hundreds of billions of dollars wasted on the military and military contractors in the wars in iraq and afghanistan...

and you can not tell me that the people holding up those signs saying "dont take from medicare to pay for government run health care" are constitutionalists and libertarians....most constitutionalists and libertarians seem to be farily intelligent. these people at these rallys appear to be pretty damn stupid...

There are stupid people in all walks of life. The people holding up these signs mean as much to the tea party as Rev Wright does for liberals. Unfortunately these types of people make the news, and as we know media sucks in this country, they only look for a story that make people emotional.

Smart people can read through the BS and not label any "movement" with a few idiots.

It's not just "a few idiots". These rallys are packed with morons preaching hate. It was a good time to start a political movement toward fiscal responsibilty and spending awareness. Sadly that movement got hijacked by right-wing wingnuts mad that a nigger(socialist, marxist, communist, facist) is president.

And I think "teabagger" a become negative much the way the word "retard" has become negative. They have brought it upon themselves.

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You are right, racial epithets are offensive, unethical, divisive and illogical. And that is exactly why the teabaggers are offensive, unethical, divisive, and illogical. Those four terms descibe the movement as it stands now to a tee.

FiveB247x

Still waiting on a response bout this.... any tea party movement people care to comment?

FiveB247x wrote:

These comments are not to detract from the awful work our Dems have done in power, but to just make a point about the Reps and Tea party.

Ok so are far as I hear and read, these are a few of the major issues they discuss:

Fiscal responsibility, the budget and free market
-last 3 Rep Administrations had the highest recorded national debts and budgets in the history of our nation- Reagan, Bush, Bush
-also if you recall, the repubs conservative savior, reagan, was always intervening in business and the market, he bailed out the airline industry, broke up many unions and interfered in strikes to side with big business's
- Bush Jr had one of the worst records for corporate greed and side dealing in our history

Foreign Policy
- War on drugs
- war on terror
- nuclear escalation
- there's probably tons more we could include

Limited government
-each party has continued the growth of government and its influence for decades now, this is nothing new

Personal responsibility
- not really sure what this refers too - kinda vague

KDH12 wrote:

nope because you make the argument about the constitution and church vs state and all these other things

not the real issues we are dealing with as country

tea party stance gets lost in the muck

aerial

FiveB247x wrote:

Still waiting on a response bout this.... any tea party movement people care to comment?

FiveB247x wrote:

These comments are not to detract from the awful work our Dems have done in power, but to just make a point about the Reps and Tea party.

Ok so are far as I hear and read, these are a few of the major issues they discuss:

Fiscal responsibility, the budget and free market
-last 3 Rep Administrations had the highest recorded national debts and budgets in the history of our nation- Reagan, Bush, Bush
-also if you recall, the repubs conservative savior, reagan, was always intervening in business and the market, he bailed out the airline industry, broke up many unions and interfered in strikes to side with big business's
- Bush Jr had one of the worst records for corporate greed and side dealing in our history

Foreign Policy
- War on drugs
- war on terror
- nuclear escalation
- there's probably tons more we could include

Limited government
-each party has continued the growth of government and its influence for decades now, this is nothing new

Personal responsibility
- not really sure what this refers too - kinda vague

KDH12 wrote:

nope because you make the argument about the constitution and church vs state and all these other things

not the real issues we are dealing with as country

tea party stance gets lost in the muck

What kind of respone are you looking for? Because I agree with your statement.

FiveB247x

You may agree with my statement, but how come about 95% of the people in the Tea Party movement were supporting and voting for all the leaders and policies which you now decry?

aerial wrote:

What kind of respone are you looking for? Because I agree with your statement.