Olympic tragedy: death video on the news???
Hugh Freaking Dillon
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I watched the Olympic opening ceremonies tonight. Right after came the CTV National News. The story of the Georgian luge athlete's death was up first. The anchor said "the following video is disturbing, but is necessary to tell the story". Then I sat there in total shock and disbelief:
THEY SHOWED THE ACTUAL VIDEO OF THE LUGE ATHLETE'S DEATH RUN. Including him flying out of the track and smacking into the metal pole.
Never did I think for one second that the disturbing video they were about to show was his actual death. I thought it might have been mourners, or the ambulance driving him away, or something. I thought it was thoroughly disgusting, not to mention disrepectful to the man's family, friends, and team mates. Still images, maybe. A computer-generated 3-D representation of what happened would have been acceptable. But the ACTUAL fucking video?
I felt like throwing up.
THEY SHOWED THE ACTUAL VIDEO OF THE LUGE ATHLETE'S DEATH RUN. Including him flying out of the track and smacking into the metal pole.
Never did I think for one second that the disturbing video they were about to show was his actual death. I thought it might have been mourners, or the ambulance driving him away, or something. I thought it was thoroughly disgusting, not to mention disrepectful to the man's family, friends, and team mates. Still images, maybe. A computer-generated 3-D representation of what happened would have been acceptable. But the ACTUAL fucking video?
I felt like throwing up.
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a couple? i think it was at least 5 or 6 times...really pathetic on any broadcasters part to show it all...there is no need to show it and if someone wants to see it there is the internet
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I'm glad they decided to change the course because they couldn't afford the chace of this tragedy to happen again. It would shut down the Olympics.
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And the front page of the LA Times has a big color picture of the guy hitting the post. Disgusting.
really douchebag? one is supposed to control themselves at 90 miles per hour? :roll:
seriously, you're an idiot
In all fairness, I did see one of the better luge atheles saying starting from the womens start made the track boring and simple after his practice runs. The commentators did mention that it is never the top lugers they are worried about but the bottom 6 that are up and coming like this kid and do not have as much experience. But to that point as well, one of the best lugers in the world crashed as well earlier yesterday.
yeah i've heard that too...i guess my question is, boring to who? the racer? or the fan? because as a fan it seems pretty exciting as it is...a guy on lying on a sled going 85 miles per hour is pretty exciting if you ask me
and if the inexperienced lugers don't have enough experience to ride this course, what's the point of them being there? crash test dummies? we've seen how that turns out
I look at topics like these as a reflection of society. We live in a violent society, everywhere in tv, music, movies and similar we see violence in one form or another, and we've become in many ways numb to it. Except in one main way - we attempt to shield society from the actual pain or recognition of violence (even in accidents like these). Our entertainment is filled with talks or sights of murder, profanity and violence in a false reality yet rarely do we ever think about the actual reality of these occurrences. We are a pro-war nation, yet can't bare to see the results of such on the tv (for any participants). We are shielded to minimize the realistic results and emotions any normal person would have for such things. So at the end of the day, should some luge accident or other graphic result of violence be shown on tv - I don't think so. But with that stated, it shouldn't be because we're attempting to alter people's state of mind or reality, it should be because people shouldn't want to see it...as a result of our recognition that it's someone's child, family member or similar dying. But in our society they do want to see it - you know why? Because we're numb to it, cause it doesn't seem real.
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I think he meant it ws boring for the lugers, I don't think fans will be able to tell the difference but the lugers I am sure can.
I agree, I defniitely don't understand why an experienced luger would be at the Olympics, or even less experienced enough to cause concern for the commentators
the problem with your theory is that it assumes that humans as a general rule can't distinguish between reality and fiction. Most of the movie-going/tv-watching populace can. We may be desensitized to fake violence, but not to real tragedy. For example, I have been a fan of wrestling since I was 5, back in 1980. I saw men hitting each other with steel chairs and Mick Foley falling off 30 foot cages onto tables, and it was rare that I thought it was too violent to watch. Why? Because I knew it was a perfomance. Yes, the men/women may have been getting hurt, but they were stunt people. This footage was REAL death, not something on a TV screen where when the take is finished the actor gets up and walks away. See, the average lucid viewer is aware of this fact. They knew that when the Olympics went off the air last night, that this guy wasn't getting up and going back to his family. He was still dead.
And that's the difference. It should not have been shown on TV.
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I'm checking it out too and they're hitting speeds of 90 mph, give me a tobaggon coarse or hockey anytime. That sport is crazy.
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Insane, 90mph, 6 inches off the ground, rock hard ice and a 50 pound sled, absolutely insane.
I'm CERTAIN you'd feel different if it was a family member of yours. If you don't, then, sorry, but I believe there is something wrong with you.
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I am also certain that this guys family was not watching the NBC broadcast of the opening ceremonies from Georgia. Not that it makes much of a difference, just sayin.
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I strongly disagree with you. Human beings don't need to actually see a person die in order to sympathize...simply hearing about someone's death should be enough to make one think about life and there after.
Hell, nothing makes me angrier than hearing about a kid being abused, but I don't need to see a child being beaten or molested on TV in order to properly relate or sympathize. And taking a dump is a natural part of life too, however we don't need to see someone moving their bowels on TV. How about sex? Sure is natural, but you can't watch that uncensored on CBS, now can you? I agree that death isn't something we should be numb to, although showing a clip of some tragic luge accident several times on TV only adds to the numbness in my opinion.
I have an opinion, buddy. It is my opinion that if someone's child died, and they had no problem having that death being shown on tv, then I think they might have something wrong with them. You are being a hypocrite if you are telling me that my opinion is not valid because it disagrees with someone else's. The point was obviously missed, but I was trying to say that if someone feels this way, it has to be across the board, if you are ok with anyone's death being on tv, you'd have to hold that same position even if it was one of your loved ones, which I highly doubt he would.
It causes no more awareness than it being reported without video. Here's something for you: my friend was out bowling with her kids and a whole bunch of kids, and it came on the tv and all these 10 year olds saw it and were horrified. Tell me: was THAT approptiate and responsible for the news to show knowing KIDS would potentially see it?
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For example you buy a pack of cigarettes in the US and it comes with a cute Camel on it and a coupon for free smokeless tobacco.
You buy a pack of smokes in Canada and there is a picture of a Black Lung on the back with disclaimers telling you why you shouldn't smoke.
People need to be exposed to everything.