PJ vs. phish

starmap3333

I've seen Phish probably 10 times or more. I went to The Great Went, Clifford Ball, etc and saw them a bunch of times inside and outside. They are boring compared to Pearl Jam. There is zero crowd interaction between the band and the fans with Phish. Pearl Jam thrives on the interaction. Phish is strung out on heavy drugs (yeah they are so don;t even say they are not) when they are on stage... noodling away with boring improvs all night in every song they play basically. Also Sprach Zaratustra (sp?) and Harry Hood are the only reason to go see Phish.

Pearl Jam on the other hand talk about (well Ed does) real shit... real world problems... encouraging us to get or stay involved and connected to the world and to be realistic about it/them. Phish on the other hand... well... lol.

Yeah, they're (Phish) all good musicians. Other than that... boring... self centered.... drugged out... and just another bandwagon for the ex-dead crowd to follow around as they bum cigarettes, beer, and money from you... holding up 1 finger which I'd like to break everytime I see it.

Create your own miracle scumbags.

starmap3333

DewieCox wrote:

Deebs41 wrote:

I'm not so sure PJ could attract 50-75,000 fans to a 3-day festival anywhere in North America...

Ridiculous!!!

Beyond ridiculous, but that's what you get with people who inhale nitrous all tour.

youngster

fox_mulderX wrote:

KO282453 wrote:

Pantera the poor mans Metallica

no way man
megadeath is the poor mans metallica. pantera is in a class of their own.

+1. Dimebag Darrell was more talented than Kirk Hammett. RIP Dimebag.

YieldToNothing

Deebs41 wrote:

I'm not so sure PJ could attract 50-75,000 fans to a 3-day festival anywhere in North America...

talk to me when phish can draw more than 1000 total phans on a european tour.

and a pearl jam cover band could probably outdraw them in australia.

dimitrispearljam

YieldToNothing wrote:

Deebs41 wrote:

I'm not so sure PJ could attract 50-75,000 fans to a 3-day festival anywhere in North America...

talk to me when phish can draw more than 1000 total phans on a european tour.

and a pearl jam cover band could probably outdraw them in australia.

in europe will be difficult to this phish to get more than 100 people in a show

BinauralJam

Deebs41 wrote:

I'm not so sure PJ could attract 50-75,000 fans to a 3-day festival anywhere in North America...

How many went to the Gorge Concerts?

bootlegger10

Well, when Pearl Jam says they can't make money touring anywhere besides the east or west coast, maybe the following isn't as big as you all think. Booyah!

choop

two of my favorite bands, you can't really compare the two except that the majority of fans for both are pretty closed minded musically.

if you post about phish here, you get responses about phish being long, boring jams.

if you post about pearl jam on pt, you get responses about them being a 90's grunge act.

both classifications are far from the truth.

aneutronbomb

this thread is mostly aggravating

i never understand why diehard music fans have to trash other popular music

and i dont like to call people out personally on msg boards but i gotta stick up for my boys and let starmap3repeating know that he knows nothing at all about phish (no you dont so dont even say that you do)

YieldToNothing

choop wrote:

two of my favorite bands, you can't really compare the two except that the majority of fans for both are pretty closed minded musically.

if you post about phish here, you get responses about phish being long, boring jams.

if you post about pearl jam on pt, you get responses about them being a 90's grunge act.

both classifications are far from the truth.

haha what's your pt handle? i'm all over the blackboard.

aneutronbomb

^i have a handle over there, its 'realmacaroni' but i never post, i only have an acct to keep my phish stats (something that would be awesome for a pj board!! )

but yeah pt is a vile and evil place dripping with lewd gross pointless and extremely mean and close minded attitudes

choop

aneutronbomb wrote:

but yeah pt is a vile and evil place dripping with lewd gross pointless and extremely mean and close minded attitudes

this place is like that too once you get past all the delusional "jamily" shit...

i've met just as many sketchy pj fans as i have phish phans

DB41

YieldToNothing wrote:

Deebs41 wrote:

I'm not so sure PJ could attract 50-75,000 fans to a 3-day festival anywhere in North America...

talk to me when phish can draw more than 1000 total phans on a european tour.

and a pearl jam cover band could probably outdraw them in australia.

That I definitely agree with.

That's fine if my opinion is wrong, I just don't think Pearl Jam could draw as many people as Phish to somewhere like Maine or Vermont for one those festivals.... still, I'd go.

DewieCox

Deebs41 wrote:

YieldToNothing wrote:

Deebs41 wrote:

I'm not so sure PJ could attract 50-75,000 fans to a 3-day festival anywhere in North America...

talk to me when phish can draw more than 1000 total phans on a european tour.

and a pearl jam cover band could probably outdraw them in australia.

That I definitely agree with.

That's fine if my opinion is wrong, I just don't think Pearl Jam could draw as many people as Phish to somewhere like Maine or Vermont for one those festivals.... still, I'd go.

PJ could sell out Alpine Valley 3 nights(90,000). Take out the repeat customers and I'd guess the numbers are pretty similar.

If they threw a festival in Seattle they'd have no problem with matching Phish's numbers.

starmap3333

lololololololo... well I must be really stupid because, as i said, i've seen them numerous times and also have a million bootlegs (which bore me these days). you little noodler.

keeponrockin

Different fan bases.

Trey is an amazing guitar player.

mca47

I always find it interesting to make comparisons like this.

Both bands have huge fan-bases, both bands are very talented and both put on great live shows.

Pearl Jam was a more popular band in the 90's simply because they fell into a popular niche and had much more exposure (radio, TV appearances, magazines) than a band like Phish.
PJ also creates more simplistic, popular, and radio-friendly music.

I would guess that per tour, PJ has a larger draw, but there are bands out there who easily trump PJ when it comes to touring, and ticket sales.

Springsteen (E-Street Band) -Been doing it FAR longer than PJ and they sell out every show on every tour to date.

Dave Matthews -While not AS popular as they once were, probably due to the lack of quality albums of late, they tour more frequently than PJ and per show I'd assume they have as much of, if not more a draw.

Up Here In My Tree

This thread is obnoxious

mca47

DewieCox wrote:

PJ could sell out Alpine Valley 3 nights(90,000). Take out the repeat customers and I'd guess the numbers are pretty similar.

If they threw a festival in Seattle they'd have no problem with matching Phish's numbers.

PJ could not sell out Alpine for 3 shows.

They probably could in the 90s, but that wouldn't happen now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the one 2003 show at Alpine wasn't even a sellout. I know it was a big draw but I also distinctly remember seeing a lot of grass at the top of the lawn during the show (which is filled with other acts).

fox_mulderX

aneutronbomb wrote:

this thread is mostly aggravating

i never understand why diehard music fans have to trash other popular music

and i dont like to call people out personally on msg boards but i gotta stick up for my boys and let starmap3repeating know that he knows nothing at all about phish (no you dont so dont even say that you do)

phish? popular?
not saying that popularity is everything, but phish isn't popular. their highest selling record only went platinum and it took 15+ years to reach that status. not to mention it took their other cds (the ones to reach a certification) at least 2-3 years to reach gold. now you're gonna write back "well pearl jam only reaches gold", i know this. but it takes them 1/4 of the time.
before you write back with the typical "record sales don't mean anything" response, everyone knows that record sales do indicate, to a certain extent, the popularity of a band.
the closest phish came to mainstream popularity was appearing on a simpson's episode.. and even that was after the show jumped the shark.
im not bashing you for enjoying phish, i enjoy bands that i know are garbage (ie limp bizkit lol), but phish has never been a part of pop-culture society.