Ed's open letter to fans about the AT&T Daughter censorship

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lgoose420 wrote:

A silver spoon really? have you anyidea the family that Bush comes from. If Obama was born with a silver spoon then the silver it is made with was purchased from the Bush family. Bush purchased his way through Yale, ducked the military, and failed over and over again at all kinds of different jobs including Pres of US.

I realize this is my first post but I have been reading for some time now, I know your on this board alot and don't mean to pop on and blast you but come on ...really.

The problem is bigger then Obama and Congress both at times appear to be spinning in circles for special interest. So what does everyone think about removing special interest out of the equation.

Special Interest = Large Corps

i know more about the Bush family than most people do....i know his family history of treason goes back to his grandfather Prescott Bush...when he worked for Brown Brothers Harriman & Co & was arrested for dealing with the enemy (Nazi's) and had his $ taken by the government.

I know about his dad and the drug running he did during his CIA days (with his Skull & bones buddies)

I know that the Bushes are very close to the Bin Ladens and they used to vacation together and they invested in Arbusto oil which was run by Bush...right into the ground!

i could go on and on and on..........but yeah......i read books and i know what's up.

Obama is the fox and Bush is the wolf...the wolf tells you "I'm coming to chomp you bitch"...the fox says "i would never eat you...i'm a vegetarian now...come on out......CHOMP!!!"

Boxes&Books

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

"AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."

it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

Pearl Jam to Obama-

http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/ ... eb-issues/

Stypo420

Ok.... so you understand why I would question a silver spoons as a difference between them.

Obama is the fox and Bush is the wolf...the wolf tells you "I'm coming to chomp you bitch"...the fox says "i would never eat you...i'm a vegetarian now...come on out......CHOMP!!!"

While I don't think this has been completely proven yet and I am an Obama supporter I still kind of like you analogy

Also thanks for not getting all bent with it being my first post. I have seen some strange responses to peoples first posts. I have really enjoyed reading everything on here I'm not really sure why I had yet to post. I would also like to apologize for the double post not really sure how that happened. :oops:

Oh yeah Where are the philly booots

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tonifig8 wrote:

Pearl Jam to Obama-

http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/ ... eb-issues/

look....i know Ed is no fool.......a big part of why i am a fan of this band is because he is no fool and he is outspoken about shit even when it's not popular with the masses...or a lot of his fans....i fucking love him for that!!..but i was in Philly when he was talking about giving Obama more time to "fix" stuff......and i'm like wtf?!....does Ed know where that bail out money went? does he know about the resigning of the patriot act by Obama? more troops...more war...more death!! where the fuck was "no more"?!?!?!...yeah he sang it Chicago...but that was because it was requested by T. Youngs brother who was in attendance...all i'm saying is....WTF ED?!?!?! i wish i could just get him alone in a room and talk to him for a few!

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lgoose420 wrote:

Also thanks for not getting all bent with it being my first post. I have seen some strange responses to peoples first posts. I have really enjoyed reading everything on here I'm not really sure why I had yet to post. I would also like to apologize for the double post not really sure how that happened. :oops:

no problems brother...welcome to the board!!!

Stypo420

look....i know Ed is no fool.......a big part of why i am a fan of this band is because he is no fool and he is outspoken about shit even when it's not popular with the masses...or a lot of his fans....i fucking love him for that!!..but i was in Philly when he was talking about giving Obama more time to "fix" stuff......and i'm like wtf?!....does Ed know where that bail out money went? does he know about the resigning of the patriot act by Obama? more troops...more war...more death!! where the fuck was "no more"?!?!?!...yeah he sang it Chicago...but that was because it was requested by T. Youngs brother who was in attendance...all i'm saying is....WTF ED?!?!?! i wish i could just get him alone in a room and talk to him for a few!

I agree with Ed I think it is still hard to pass complete judgment on Obama no president in modern history has faced this much obstruction from members of the other political party. The GOP play is to do nothing in hopes of makeing Obama appear to be this extreme left wing liberal when the fact of the matter is he is far more of a centrist like Clinton. I completely agree the resigning of the Patriot act was a kick to the groin, but I feel there is a lot more to it then I will ever know sitting here in my cube. This makes me hesitate my judgment. Regarding the wars I agree with Obama there too. We need to remove ourselves reasonably you can not just turn around and walk out there is simply a moral imperative that comes with being a country like America values, integrity, and morals are our key. The GOP early on liked to say Obama was on an Apology tour around the world as if this is a bad thing we did have a few things that needed to be cleaned up. I realize other countries may never do this but again we our America and we once again care about our integrity, values and morals and I don’t think that can be quantified

Boxes&Books

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

tonifig8 wrote:

Pearl Jam to Obama-

http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/ ... eb-issues/

look....i know Ed is no fool.......a big part of why i am a fan of this band is because he is no fool and he is outspoken about shit even when it's not popular with the masses...or a lot of his fans....i fucking love him for that!!..but i was in Philly when he was talking about giving Obama more time to "fix" stuff......and i'm like wtf?!....does Ed know where that bail out money went? does he know about the resigning of the patriot act by Obama? more troops...more war...more death!! where the fuck was "no more"?!?!?!...yeah he sang it Chicago...but that was because it was requested by T. Youngs brother who was in attendance...all i'm saying is....WTF ED?!?!?! i wish i could just get him alone in a room and talk to him for a few!

Don't want to get into a debate on this forum- But here is a video of Obama taking questions from the other group of people who help Govern this country - Maybe you can find answers to some of the comments you made above. The bail out discussion is a huge topic, the bottom line is that it had to be done in one way or another. Some of the worlds brightest minds didn't even know WTF was happening or what was going to happen... Some money is being returned ..some money hasn't been used... and the rest of it is still being debated....

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/obamagopqa/

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tonifig8 wrote:

Don't want to get into a debate on this forum- But here is a video of Obama taking questions from the other group of people who help Govern this country - Maybe you can find answers to some of the comments you made above. The bail out discussion is a huge topic, the bottom line is that it had to be done in one way or another. Some of the worlds brightest minds didn't even know WTF was happening or what was going to happen... Some money is being returned ..some money hasn't been used... and the rest of it is still being debated....

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/obamagopqa/

mmmmmhhmmmmmmm.......well you see....i don't allow smoke to be blown up my ass....i know all about the "bail out" and where the money went and all i'm saying is there should be blood running through the streets of DC..........but we are now a nation of apathetic dumbed down sheep, so let's all just put the game on and go back to sleep.

public enemy said "don't believe the hype!".....i suggest you do the same.

satansbed

i like this discussion, its spirited without being nasty

satansbed

i also think obama thinks the only way he will get relected is if hes more of a centerist, if he does get a second term i could see him moving more to the left.... and another reason that he may pander to corps some what is that a large section of middle of america would think to not do so would be "communist". hes also been getting blocked from his own party too.

i think the main thing that hurts america is the two party system but thats how the lay out of your government is designed and i dont think you could get it changed

Boxes&Books

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

tonifig8 wrote:

Don't want to get into a debate on this forum- But here is a video of Obama taking questions from the other group of people who help Govern this country - Maybe you can find answers to some of the comments you made above. The bail out discussion is a huge topic, the bottom line is that it had to be done in one way or another. Some of the worlds brightest minds didn't even know WTF was happening or what was going to happen... Some money is being returned ..some money hasn't been used... and the rest of it is still being debated....

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/obamagopqa/

mmmmmhhmmmmmmm.......well you see....i don't allow smoke to be blown up my ass....i know all about the "bail out" and where the money went and all i'm saying is there should be blood running through the streets of DC..........but we are now a nation of apathetic dumbed down sheep, so let's all just put the game on and go back to sleep.

public enemy said "don't believe the hype!".....i suggest you do the same.

So then your problem isn't with Obama and his administration - your problem is with the US Gov, right? Because blood has been flowing in the streets for a long time- and I'm not talking about Bush- I'm talking about our history-
I hope your not simply pointing the finger at Obama- because I would loose all respect for you right now.

Stypo420

public enemy said "don't believe the hype!".....i suggest you do the same.

From either side :!:

I have thought about all this stuff for some time now and here is my basic conclusion please tell me why I'm wrong.

Are gov't is fractured and completely broken.

It is fractured and broken because of CORRUPTION. on both sides of the isle.

Corruption occurs becuase of outside money and influence.

Who provided our gov't with this money and influence......well non other the private Corps.

Remove the Corps from or Gov't business and you will finally begin to find solutions to our problems.

The profit motives of the private sector should be the farthest thing from Washingtons mind.

my humble opinion,
Goose

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U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

Ever thought that, with an infant and another young child at home, he might have another focus right now?

Pepe Silvia

babel44 wrote:

I Know he has been in office for over a year.... and he hasn't started any new wars.
what a bum

no new wars but he has started bombing Pakistan which has displaced millions before winter

inmytree

ha ha ha....this thread cracks me up...I love when political threads start elsewhere on the board...

folks love to bitch just to bitch...

Ledbetterman10

Pepe Silvia...this name keeps coming up over and over again. Every day Pepe's mail's getting sent back to me....

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scb wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

Ever thought that, with an infant and another young child at home, he might have another focus right now?

you must not have kids...because having a kid is what inspires most people to give a fuck about what is going on!! because their kids have to grow up in this fucked up world! (yeah...i have a daughter)

maybe Ed is going in reverse............but i doubt that.

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tonifig8 wrote:

So then your problem isn't with Obama and his administration - your problem is with the US Gov, right? Because blood has been flowing in the streets for a long time- and I'm not talking about Bush- I'm talking about our history-
I hope your not simply pointing the finger at Obama- because I would loose all respect for you right now.

yes...my problem is with the whole system....the President doesn't really have any power...he is a fucking puppet slash lightning rod.....but i will not stand by while people try to tell me Obama is good or is trying to do good, when i know that is straight up bullshit!

gimmesometruth27

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

"AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."

it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

breaking news...ed owes you nothing...you are an adult, you can think for yourself and have your own opinion on the presidents...perhaps ed is a little less angry these days??

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lgoose420 wrote:

public enemy said "don't believe the hype!".....i suggest you do the same.

From either side :!:

I have thought about all this stuff for some time now and here is my basic conclusion please tell me why I'm wrong.

Are gov't is fractured and completely broken.

It is fractured and broken because of CORRUPTION. on both sides of the isle.

Corruption occurs becuase of outside money and influence.

Who provided our gov't with this money and influence......well non other the private Corps.

Remove the Corps from or Gov't business and you will finally begin to find solutions to our problems.

The profit motives of the private sector should be the farthest thing from Washingtons mind.

my humble opinion,
Goose

this is only part of the problem/truth....at the head of it all are the world bankers(world bank, IMF,rockefellers, rothschilds)...they are where the evil starts!