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Ed's open letter to fans about the AT&T Daughter censorship

CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
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Does anyone have a link or cut and paste of that letter - I tried going back through the "news" here and found nothing.
Thanks

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,929
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."
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  • CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    its a long one but a good read

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/ ... needs.html
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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."


    it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."


    it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

    Yeah True!
  • CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."


    it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

    BUT aleast our avitars still kick ass!!!
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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    BUT aleast our avitars still kick ass!!!

    *high five* :mrgreen::mrgreen:
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."


    it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

    Probably because obama never does anything so u cant speak out about it :lol:
  • CantKeepMeHereCantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    CantKeepMeHere wrote:
    BUT aleast our avitars still kick ass!!!

    *high five* :mrgreen::mrgreen:
    if you look close I even chose the "Freak" cover!! and these are all vinyls I actually own - not enough room for LO2L
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,929
    RiotZact wrote:
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."


    it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

    Probably because obama never does anything so u cant speak out about it :lol:

    Dude, obviously you don't follow politics very closely . Obama has done a lot. For instance:

    - He predicted that the Steelers would beat the Cardinals in the Super Bowl
    - He filled out an NCAA Tournament Bracket.
    - He congratulated that guy from the White Sox that threw a perfect game.
    - He had some Nascar guys drive their cars on the White House lawn.

    Now is that isn't the type of resume that wins you the Nobel Peace Prize, then what is?
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260
    My bad, You also forgot that he spent one of his saturdays commentating a georgetown-duke game
  • babel44babel44 Posts: 64
    I Know he has been in office for over a year.... and he hasn't started any new wars.
    what a bum
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,929
    babel44 wrote:
    I Know he has been in office for over a year.... and he hasn't started any new wars.
    what a bum

    I think he has to end this one first
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  • RiotAct10RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,632
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."


    it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

    now, i admit, i voted for Obama, and would gladly do it again, but it should at least be pointed out that Pearl Jam has played like what, 10, maybe 15? probably less shows since Obama has been President. When Bush was in office they did two-mega tours, including one when Iraq was a hot-topic, and they also played a mini-election themed tour. So while I dont think Ed would be out there trashing Obama every night, he hasn't really had the chance to even if he wanted.

    (Edit, I guess they have played 32 shows, with 16 of those being in the US. Still not many, and he hadn't even been President very long for most all of those.)
    words seem so out of place.

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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    and anyway what obama has been trying to do ed is all for, universal health care, closing guantamino, okay many people disagree(myself included) with what hes doing in afganastan but at the end of the day its not his war and hes set a timetable for withdrawing troops, so all in all he hasn't been amazing but fuck hes been alot better than bush
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260
    satansbed wrote:
    and anyway what obama has been trying to do ed is all for, universal health care, closing guantamino, okay many people disagree(myself included) with what hes doing in afganastan but at the end of the day its not his war and hes set a timetable for withdrawing troops, so all in all he hasn't been amazing but fuck hes been alot better than bush

    I agree that he has great ideas but then he dosn't try hard enough to get them in motion, hes speaking softly but not by any means carrying his big stick.
  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    RiotZact wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    and anyway what obama has been trying to do ed is all for, universal health care, closing guantamino, okay many people disagree(myself included) with what hes doing in afganastan but at the end of the day its not his war and hes set a timetable for withdrawing troops, so all in all he hasn't been amazing but fuck hes been alot better than bush

    I agree that he has great ideas but then he dosn't try hard enough to get them in motion, hes speaking softly but not by any means carrying his big stick.

    yeah i see that a bit but i think the problem is congress not him
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,260
    satansbed wrote:
    RiotZact wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    and anyway what obama has been trying to do ed is all for, universal health care, closing guantamino, okay many people disagree(myself included) with what hes doing in afganastan but at the end of the day its not his war and hes set a timetable for withdrawing troops, so all in all he hasn't been amazing but fuck hes been alot better than bush

    I agree that he has great ideas but then he dosn't try hard enough to get them in motion, hes speaking softly but not by any means carrying his big stick.

    yeah i see that a bit but i think the problem is congress not him

    Awe whyd you have to say congress, our representitive in my region just died :cry: and he has always been a good one
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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    satansbed wrote:
    and anyway what obama has been trying to do ed is all for, universal health care, closing guantamino, okay many people disagree(myself included) with what hes doing in afganastan but at the end of the day its not his war and hes set a timetable for withdrawing troops, so all in all he hasn't been amazing but fuck hes been alot better than bush

    well for those of us who don't have their heads in the sand, we know Obama is a whore like Bush...we know this "universal health care" is only going to mean more $$ for big pharma, not better health care for us, infact it will get worse!...closing gitmo? it's not closed yet...and even if they do..big fucking deal...they will just torture the innocent somewhere else...i mean you do know that Obama has continued to use torture right?! infact he has continued all of the Bush/Cheney agendas...i can't help but get sick when i hear people say "he didn't start the war, give him some time to clean up Bush's mess" while the whole time Obama is just smearing more shit over the shit Bush left, he ain't cleaning a fucking thing!....you wanna know the difference between Bush & Obama? about 3 shades of brown and a silver spoon.
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    you wanna know the difference between Bush & Obama? about 3 shades of brown and a silver spoon.

    A silver spoon really? have you anyidea the family that Bush comes from. If Obama was born with a silver spoon then the silver it is made with was purchased from the Bush family. Bush purchased his way through Yale, ducked the military, and failed over and over again at all kinds of different jobs including Pres of US.

    I realize this is my first post but I have been reading for some time now, I know your on this board alot and don't mean to pop on and blast you but come on ...really.

    The problem is bigger then Obama and Congress both at times appear to be spinning in circles for special interest. So what does everyone think about removing special interest out of the equation.

    Special Interest = Large Corps
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    lgoose420 wrote:
    you wanna know the difference between Bush & Obama? about 3 shades of brown and a silver spoon.

    A silver spoon really? have you anyidea the family that Bush comes from. If Obama was born with a silver spoon then the silver it is made with was purchased from the Bush family. Bush bought and snorted his way through Yale, ducked the military, and failed over and over again at all kinds of different jobs including Pres of US.

    I realize this is my first post but I have been reading for some time now, I know your on this board alot and don't mean to pop on and blast you but come on ...really.

    The problem is bigger then Obama and Congress both at times appear to be spinning in circles for special interest. So what does everyone think about removing special interest out of the equation.

    Special Interest = Large Corps

    Large Corps should have no voice in our gov't
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    lgoose420 wrote:
    A silver spoon really? have you anyidea the family that Bush comes from. If Obama was born with a silver spoon then the silver it is made with was purchased from the Bush family. Bush purchased his way through Yale, ducked the military, and failed over and over again at all kinds of different jobs including Pres of US.

    I realize this is my first post but I have been reading for some time now, I know your on this board alot and don't mean to pop on and blast you but come on ...really.

    The problem is bigger then Obama and Congress both at times appear to be spinning in circles for special interest. So what does everyone think about removing special interest out of the equation.

    Special Interest = Large Corps

    i know more about the Bush family than most people do....i know his family history of treason goes back to his grandfather Prescott Bush...when he worked for Brown Brothers Harriman & Co & was arrested for dealing with the enemy (Nazi's) and had his $ taken by the government.

    I know about his dad and the drug running he did during his CIA days (with his Skull & bones buddies)

    I know that the Bushes are very close to the Bin Ladens and they used to vacation together and they invested in Arbusto oil which was run by Bush...right into the ground!

    i could go on and on and on..........but yeah......i read books and i know what's up.

    Obama is the fox and Bush is the wolf...the wolf tells you "I'm coming to chomp you bitch"...the fox says "i would never eat you...i'm a vegetarian now...come on out......CHOMP!!!"
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media.

    If a company that is controlling a webcast is cutting out bits of our performance — not based on laws, but on their own preferences and interpretations — fans have little choice but to watch the censored version. What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."


    it's amazing how Ed was so outspoken when Bush was in office and now not a fucking peep since that douche Obama has been in office........i just don't understand it.....it makes me so very,very sad.....it almost feels like i lost a friend.

    Pearl Jam to Obama-

    http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/ ... eb-issues/
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    Ok.... so you understand why I would question a silver spoons as a difference between them.
    Obama is the fox and Bush is the wolf...the wolf tells you "I'm coming to chomp you bitch"...the fox says "i would never eat you...i'm a vegetarian now...come on out......CHOMP!!!"

    While I don't think this has been completely proven yet and I am an Obama supporter I still kind of like you analogy

    Also thanks for not getting all bent with it being my first post. I have seen some strange responses to peoples first posts. I have really enjoyed reading everything on here I'm not really sure why I had yet to post. I would also like to apologize for the double post not really sure how that happened. :oops: :D

    Oh yeah Where are the philly booots :lol::lol::lol:
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Pearl Jam to Obama-

    http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/ ... eb-issues/


    look....i know Ed is no fool.......a big part of why i am a fan of this band is because he is no fool and he is outspoken about shit even when it's not popular with the masses...or a lot of his fans....i fucking love him for that!!..but i was in Philly when he was talking about giving Obama more time to "fix" stuff......and i'm like wtf?!....does Ed know where that bail out money went? does he know about the resigning of the patriot act by Obama? more troops...more war...more death!! where the fuck was "no more"?!?!?!...yeah he sang it Chicago...but that was because it was requested by T. Youngs brother who was in attendance...all i'm saying is....WTF ED?!?!?! i wish i could just get him alone in a room and talk to him for a few!
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    lgoose420 wrote:
    Also thanks for not getting all bent with it being my first post. I have seen some strange responses to peoples first posts. I have really enjoyed reading everything on here I'm not really sure why I had yet to post. I would also like to apologize for the double post not really sure how that happened. :oops: :D

    no problems brother...welcome to the board!!! :mrgreen:
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    look....i know Ed is no fool.......a big part of why i am a fan of this band is because he is no fool and he is outspoken about shit even when it's not popular with the masses...or a lot of his fans....i fucking love him for that!!..but i was in Philly when he was talking about giving Obama more time to "fix" stuff......and i'm like wtf?!....does Ed know where that bail out money went? does he know about the resigning of the patriot act by Obama? more troops...more war...more death!! where the fuck was "no more"?!?!?!...yeah he sang it Chicago...but that was because it was requested by T. Youngs brother who was in attendance...all i'm saying is....WTF ED?!?!?! i wish i could just get him alone in a room and talk to him for a few!

    I agree with Ed I think it is still hard to pass complete judgment on Obama no president in modern history has faced this much obstruction from members of the other political party. The GOP play is to do nothing in hopes of makeing Obama appear to be this extreme left wing liberal when the fact of the matter is he is far more of a centrist like Clinton. I completely agree the resigning of the Patriot act was a kick to the groin, but I feel there is a lot more to it then I will ever know sitting here in my cube. This makes me hesitate my judgment. Regarding the wars I agree with Obama there too. We need to remove ourselves reasonably you can not just turn around and walk out there is simply a moral imperative that comes with being a country like America values, integrity, and morals are our key. The GOP early on liked to say Obama was on an Apology tour around the world as if this is a bad thing we did have a few things that needed to be cleaned up. I realize other countries may never do this but again we our America and we once again care about our integrity, values and morals and I don’t think that can be quantified
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Pearl Jam to Obama-

    http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2008/ ... eb-issues/


    look....i know Ed is no fool.......a big part of why i am a fan of this band is because he is no fool and he is outspoken about shit even when it's not popular with the masses...or a lot of his fans....i fucking love him for that!!..but i was in Philly when he was talking about giving Obama more time to "fix" stuff......and i'm like wtf?!....does Ed know where that bail out money went? does he know about the resigning of the patriot act by Obama? more troops...more war...more death!! where the fuck was "no more"?!?!?!...yeah he sang it Chicago...but that was because it was requested by T. Youngs brother who was in attendance...all i'm saying is....WTF ED?!?!?! i wish i could just get him alone in a room and talk to him for a few!


    Don't want to get into a debate on this forum- But here is a video of Obama taking questions from the other group of people who help Govern this country - Maybe you can find answers to some of the comments you made above. The bail out discussion is a huge topic, the bottom line is that it had to be done in one way or another. Some of the worlds brightest minds didn't even know WTF was happening or what was going to happen... Some money is being returned ..some money hasn't been used... and the rest of it is still being debated....

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/obamagopqa/
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    tonifig8 wrote:
    Don't want to get into a debate on this forum- But here is a video of Obama taking questions from the other group of people who help Govern this country - Maybe you can find answers to some of the comments you made above. The bail out discussion is a huge topic, the bottom line is that it had to be done in one way or another. Some of the worlds brightest minds didn't even know WTF was happening or what was going to happen... Some money is being returned ..some money hasn't been used... and the rest of it is still being debated....

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/obamagopqa/

    mmmmmhhmmmmmmm.......well you see....i don't allow smoke to be blown up my ass....i know all about the "bail out" and where the money went and all i'm saying is there should be blood running through the streets of DC..........but we are now a nation of apathetic dumbed down sheep, so let's all just put the game on and go back to sleep.

    public enemy said "don't believe the hype!".....i suggest you do the same.
  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    i like this discussion, its spirited without being nasty
  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    i also think obama thinks the only way he will get relected is if hes more of a centerist, if he does get a second term i could see him moving more to the left.... and another reason that he may pander to corps some what is that a large section of middle of america would think to not do so would be "communist". hes also been getting blocked from his own party too.

    i think the main thing that hurts america is the two party system but thats how the lay out of your government is designed and i dont think you could get it changed
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