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Ames plagiarism?

otis mcflusterotis mcfluster Posts: 536
edited June 2008 in The Porch
Or paying tribute? What's the verdict?

Ames Columbia: http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/81557
The Clash: http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/18995

Ames Tampa: http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/81326
Led Zeppelin: http://www.amazon.com/Presence-Led-Zeppelin/dp/B000002JSJ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1213714912&sr=1-1
Pink Floyd: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Moon-Pink-Floyd/dp/B000002U82/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1213714977&sr=1-1
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  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    they're paying tribute and it's great..

    why are Pj fans such fuckin dicks???
  • MILKwasAbadChoiceMILKwasAbadChoice Posts: 285
    i like it i expect a who reference somewhere, and maybe a neil young in the next few posters?
    98- 9/8.9/10.9/11
    00- 8/3, 8/4, 9/1.9/2
    03- 4/28. 7/8. 7/9. 7/14
    04- 10/1
    05- 10/3
    06- 5/4!!!!, 5/12. 5/13. 5/27, 5/28, 6/1, 6/3
    08- 6/19, 6/20, 6/22, 6/25, 6/27, 8/4
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    If they are paying tribute to other bands/albulms they like, Curious to see what DC, MSG, and Boston will all be.
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  • Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    eldarion75 wrote:
    they're paying tribute and it's great..

    why are Pj fans such fuckin dicks???


    Exactly!!

    and to the thread starter.... get a clue man! :rolleyes:
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,330
    not the first time
    remember the buffalo/uniondale/albany series from 03'

    that was much more obvious

    and the tampa one does not really resemble the stuff you posted.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    I'd go homage... or lack of new ideas ;)
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    MILKwasAbadChoice wrote:
    i like it i expect a who reference somewhere, and maybe a neil young in the next few posters?


    i do believe the guy getting his face pecked off is wearing a who shirt, so there ya go. looks like its two references per poster. the columbia is definately a step in the right direction. looking great
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    from EB


    COLUMBIA

    This poster is all "reverse" if that is a word..

    upside down Colombian flag
    mirror image from Clash poster
    WHo tshirt but with colors inverted
    Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II '24
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    eldarion75 wrote:
    they're paying tribute and it's great..


    yes, in homage. all artists do so from time to time.


    take a look at klausen:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=263904
    inspired by a very important artist/work of modern art.



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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    there is a great raconteurs one from this year, done by jones. its an homage to an old picture of lincoln, instead jack white is pictured....look for it...its great.
    Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II '24
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,086
    that tampa poster when put in context is mint
  • jonbond1779jonbond1779 London, UK Posts: 1,641
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Or paying tribute? What's the verdict?

    Ames Columbia: http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/81557
    The Clash: http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/18995

    Ames Tampa: http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/81326
    Led Zeppelin: http://www.amazon.com/Presence-Led-Zeppelin/dp/B000002JSJ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1213714912&sr=1-1
    Pink Floyd: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Moon-Pink-Floyd/dp/B000002U82/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1213714977&sr=1-1

    Good call!!!

    The Ames Columbia is not a tribute or homage or anything like that - its plagiarism - pure and simple
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    jonbond1779 wrote:
    Good call!!!

    The Ames Columbia is not a tribute or homage or anything like that - its plagiarism - pure and simple

    0% chance it is plagiarism
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Vedderman23Vedderman23 Posts: 859
    homage - look it up.
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,086
    I love the themes, hope it continues...
  • Sharon_Hearts_PJSharon_Hearts_PJ Bristol, PA Posts: 1,383
    Get_Right wrote:
    and the tampa one does not really resemble the stuff you posted.
    Look closer....
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  • Murderers.Murderers. Posts: 1,382
    jonbond1779 wrote:
    Good call!!!

    The Ames Columbia is not a tribute or homage or anything like that - its plagiarism - pure and simple
    Pfft, fool.
    What the fuck is this world?
  • Vedderman23Vedderman23 Posts: 859
    Get_Right wrote:
    and the tampa one does not really resemble the stuff you posted.

    :eek:

    :D
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  • otis mcflusterotis mcfluster Posts: 536
    pdalowsky wrote:
    that tampa poster when put in context is mint
    I feel that way about Columbia. Has all the elements of a great poster. Love the subtleties. Love the homage. Love the aesthetic. It gets better with time/thought.

    My first response was that Ames didn't give much thought to the homage posters--now I feel the exact opposite.

    Apparently, having a discussion about these posters/art that goes beyond the knee jerk "love it", "hate it" reaction, makes me an asshole and a dick.
  • SPALMASPALMA Posts: 2,279
    Tampa poster is an awesome tribute..... so glad I got it.
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,086
    Get_Right wrote:
    not the first time
    remember the buffalo/uniondale/albany series from 03'

    that was much more obvious

    and the tampa one does not really resemble the stuff you posted.

    eh??
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    If they are paying tribute to other bands/albulms they like, Curious to see what DC, MSG, and Boston will all be.


    i am too!
    b/c i would think it's not only the bands/music...but also the album and/or poster artwork they are paying tribute to as well. i love seeing artistic influence, even blatant tribute/homage to a particular artist.
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  • zolsticezolstice Posts: 60
    In the same way that Pearl Jam pays homage to the bands/artists that inspire them and paved the way for rock and roll (both through covers and through many of their original songs with either musical or lyrical references) AMES is referencing the same bands, but also referencing some classic poster/album art that no doubt has influenced them in the art that they create.

    If people have a problem with this, then they should have a problem with Pearl Jam playing Reign Over Me or Rockin' in the Free World.
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  • bovy_jbovy_j Posts: 1,008
    I'm loving this homage! Usually, I DO prefer Klausen prints, but this is definitely a sweet idea that Ames is doing. Me likey!
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    Paying tribute to those who came before. It happens in every walk of life, why should posters be different?

    I think this round of posters has been extraordinary. They have really outdone themselves.
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  • otis mcflusterotis mcfluster Posts: 536
    BTW I'll be away from my computer today--if someone can pick me up an extra Columbia poster from Ames Bros today, I'd be very grateful.
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Get_Right wrote:
    and the tampa one does not really resemble the stuff you posted.

    what?!
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  • gozzo5058gozzo5058 Posts: 611
    "every artist is a cannibal"
    s

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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    gozzo5058 wrote:
    "every artist is a cannibal"

    GREAT quote and too true, in a GOOD way imo!
    who said it?
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,330
    ok ok so the presence cover is there
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