Israel opens dam to flood Palestinians out of their homes...

Pepe Silvia

i guess they will drive them off the land so they can steal it any way they can.....

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11 ... =351020202

Gaza flooded after Israel opens dam gates
Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:41:04 GMT

Israel has opened the floodgates of one of its dams in the eastern part of the Gaza Strip, flooding Palestinian houses and causing severe damage.

The Israeli authorities opened the dam's floodgates without any prior warning or coordination with local authorities in Gaza, stunning the residents of the area, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported late on Monday.

There has been heavy rain in the region over the past 24 hours. It seems the Israeli authorities could not handle the huge amount of rainwater and decided to open the floodgates without prior warning.

Because Gaza is located in a low-lying area and the elevation decreases on the way to the Mediterranean Sea, water gushed into the area, flooding two Palestinian villages and displacing a hundred Gazan families.

The locals say Israel intentionally caused the floods, the Press TV correspondent said.

The waters from the dam, called the Valley of Gaza, flooded houses in Johr al-Deek village, which is southeast of Gaza City, and Nusirat in the eastern part of the territory, where the Al-Nusirat refugee camp is also located.

The Valley of Gaza is about 8 kilometers long. It starts on the eastern Gaza border with Israel and ends in the Mediterranean.

The houses of many Palestinians have been flooded and a number of people are trapped inside or on their roofs, while many have also gone missing, the Press TV correspondent said.

Rescue teams are using small boats to evacuate the trapped people.

Hamas has condemned the act as a war crime and has called on all concerned parties to intervene and offer assistance to the locals.

The flooding has made life more difficult for the Gazans, especially for those still living in tents because their homes were destroyed in the December 2008-January 2009 Israeli war on the Gaza Strip.

In the war, more than 1,400 people were killed, mostly women and children, and over 10,000 houses were destroyed or damaged, forcing at least 500 families to live in tents.

Very little progress is seen in reconstruction of the devastated areas in the Gaza Strip, mostly due to the Israeli blockade, which has prevented the delivery of building materials to the coastal enclave.

FTP/HGL

ogre1213

if you believe this you are crazy

seriously , this is insane, get your facts straight and from a non-propaganda website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8467543.stm

its obvious hamas is trying to capitalize from this natural disaster

Israel is saving lives:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143388.html

Pepe Silvia

ogre1213 wrote:

if you believe this you are crazy

seriously , this is insane, get your facts straight and from a non-propaganda website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8467543.stm

its obvious hamas is trying to capitalize from this natural disaster

Israel is saving lives:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143388.html

we all know the bbc doesn't have a pro israeli bias, riiiiight, that explains why they didn't even want anyone giving the address to donate to a Palestinian relief fund, ya know where they don't have enough food, water, can't rebuild their destroyed infrastructure....

the bbc article doesn't even mention the claim of the dam, which haaretz at least does.

they are saving lives...right, they are saving lives by denying food and supplies to reach Palestinians causing the majority of children to suffer from acute malnutrtion and have banned everything from asparagus to crayons to tambourines from entering Gaza and they do this....to save lives, makes perfect sense!! :roll:

were the 4 people pulled from that truck Israeli or Palestinian?

some are thinking they are moving slow in their efforts

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143841.html
Nonetheless, much infrastructure in the southern region is still out of service. "It's starting to look like one big fiasco," Hemi Tzemach of Kibbutz Kadesh Barnea said. "Bezeq [phone operator] still hasn't done anything, the Public Works Authority has yet to bring a single bulldozer and there is no electricity on the moshav in the greenhouses, vineyards, factory or packing house

though, i find it funny Israeli's are crying about them not getting power up and running fast enough when they still refuse to let Gaza rebuild a year later. maybe the damage from water to Israeli businesses is their god punishing them for stealing 80% of the water, which even the world health orginzation confirms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgReaqCI ... e=youtu.be

i guess it could be natural but could ya really blame them for thinking Israel would do something like that? violently oppressing a people while stealing land by force kinda makes some people untrusting, ya know? it seems like it could be easily verifiable if the dam was inspected to see where the water level is and if that's what it should be given all the rain

ogre1213

Pepe Silvia wrote:

they are saving lives...right, they are saving lives by denying food and supplies to reach Palestinians causing the majority of children to suffer from acute malnutrtion and have banned everything from asparagus to crayons to tambourines from entering Gaza and they do this....to save lives, makes perfect sense!! :roll:

way to deviate from the topic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTr1pbaxmRg
IDF Twitter- wwww.twitter.com/IDFinHaiti
IDF Blog- www.idfspokesperson.com
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v ... s.cnn.html

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i guess it could be natural but could ya really blame them for thinking Israel would do something like that? violently oppressing a people while stealing land by force kinda makes some people untrusting, ya know? it seems like it could be easily verifiable if the dam was inspected to see where the water level is and if that's what it should be given all the rain

hamas is trying to get YOU to sympathize with them, they do this all the time
theyre trying to make Israel look like the bad guy
this is a typical scapegoat scenario and i see its working

Pepe Silvia

ogre1213 wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

they are saving lives...right, they are saving lives by denying food and supplies to reach Palestinians causing the majority of children to suffer from acute malnutrtion and have banned everything from asparagus to crayons to tambourines from entering Gaza and they do this....to save lives, makes perfect sense!! :roll:

way to deviate from the topic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTr1pbaxmRg
IDF Twitter- wwww.twitter.com/IDFinHaiti
IDF Blog- http://www.idfspokesperson.com
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v ... s.cnn.html

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i guess it could be natural but could ya really blame them for thinking Israel would do something like that? violently oppressing a people while stealing land by force kinda makes some people untrusting, ya know? it seems like it could be easily verifiable if the dam was inspected to see where the water level is and if that's what it should be given all the rain

hamas is trying to get YOU to sympathize with them, they do this all the time
theyre trying to make Israel look like the bad guy
this is a typical scapegoat scenario and i see its working

how odd, you say i'm diverting the topic of the flood by bringing up Israel's illegal blockade, which has been going on for a long time....while you post links about Israel in Haiti in every reply???

cool, Israel is helping save brown people in Haiti while exterminating brown people next door so they can forcibly steal their land....and?

i already said it's possible they could be falsely blamed for this, i still don't see what their actions in the relief effort in Haiti has to do with their treatment of the Palestinians

Shawshank

Looks like they took a lesson from G Dub. I mean it's well known that he had the levies taken out during Katrina. :roll:

ogre1213

Pepe Silvia wrote:

ogre1213 wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

they are saving lives...right, they are saving lives by denying food and supplies to reach Palestinians causing the majority of children to suffer from acute malnutrtion and have banned everything from asparagus to crayons to tambourines from entering Gaza and they do this....to save lives, makes perfect sense!! :roll:

way to deviate from the topic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTr1pbaxmRg
IDF Twitter- wwww.twitter.com/IDFinHaiti
IDF Blog- http://www.idfspokesperson.com
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v ... s.cnn.html

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i guess it could be natural but could ya really blame them for thinking Israel would do something like that? violently oppressing a people while stealing land by force kinda makes some people untrusting, ya know? it seems like it could be easily verifiable if the dam was inspected to see where the water level is and if that's what it should be given all the rain

hamas is trying to get YOU to sympathize with them, they do this all the time
theyre trying to make Israel look like the bad guy
this is a typical scapegoat scenario and i see its working

how odd, you say i'm diverting the topic of the flood by bringing up Israel's illegal blockade, which has been going on for a long time and then....you post links about Israel in Haiti???

cool, Israel is helping save brown people in Haiti while exterminating brown people next door so they can forcibly steal their land....and?

i already said it's possible they could be falsely blamed for this, i still don't see what their actions in the relief effort in Haiti has to do with their treatment of the Palestinians

u diverted the topic first, thats why i said " way to deviate from the topic" i was just showing you more examples of how Israel is saving lives

and i never said IDFs efforts in Haiti had anything to do with the palestinians

Pepe Silvia

ogre1213 wrote:

u diverted the topic first, thats why i said " way to deviate from the topic" i was just showing you more examples of how Israel is saving lives

the link you posted of the IDF pulling 4 Israeli's from a truck and saying 'they are saving lives!' had nothing to do with Palestinians just as your links about Haiti had nothing to do with them. so Israel saved some Israeli's and are helping save some Haitians, back to the topic at hand and the treatment of the Palestinians.

ogre1213 wrote:

and i never said IDFs efforts in Haiti had anything to do with the palestinians

no, but you brought it up in a thread that did have to do with the Palestinians after saying i was diverting the topic from how many Israeli's the IDF save back to the Palestinians, which is actually what the thread is about....

ogre1213

im sorry but this is SO stupid to argue about...
this thread is about hamas lying and trying to blame a flood , a natural disaster, on Israel
hence the subject : "Israel opens dam to flood Palestinians out of their homes..."
i posted a video of Israel saving people from this flood, it doesn't matter WHO they are

Pepe Silvia wrote:

they are saving lives...right, they are saving lives by denying food and supplies to reach Palestinians causing the majority of children to suffer from acute malnutrtion and have banned everything from asparagus to crayons to tambourines from entering Gaza and they do this....to save lives, makes perfect sense!! :roll:

this is not about Israel denying supplies to gaza, ok?

then as long as you deviated from the topic , i did too by citing another example of how Israel is saving lives , Haiti (which should have a thread of its own)

rebornFixer

Pepe Silvia wrote:

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cool, Israel is helping save brown people in Haiti while exterminating brown people next door so they can forcibly steal their land....and?

This sort of melodrama is why I often avoid these Israel threads now.

Pepe Silvia

ogre1213 wrote:

im sorry but this is SO stupid to argue about...
this thread is about hamas lying and trying to blame a flood , a natural disaster, on Israel
hence the subject : "Israel opens dam to flood Palestinians out of their homes..."
i posted a video of Israel saving people from this flood, it doesn't matter WHO they are

Pepe Silvia wrote:

they are saving lives...right, they are saving lives by denying food and supplies to reach Palestinians causing the majority of children to suffer from acute malnutrtion and have banned everything from asparagus to crayons to tambourines from entering Gaza and they do this....to save lives, makes perfect sense!! :roll:

this is not about Israel denying supplies to gaza, ok?

then as long as you deviated from the topic , i did too by citing another example of how Israel is saving lives , Haiti (which should have a thread of its own)

it is so stupid and yet here you are hitting reply time after time....

you'll have to understand Israel has very little credibility with a lot of people and so a lot feel Israel simply saying they didn't do it means squat. they constantly lie. they lied about using white phosphorous and DIME weapons (then change their story and say oh yeah, of course we used those, but it was justified because everyone and thing is an extension of Hamas so everyone /thing is a viable target), human shields, targeting red cross and UN buildings (in 1 instance lying and saying it never happened, then saying it did but it was to target militants then changed their story again saying it was a targeting error even though they were given the coordinates of such places well in advance to avoid these types of things) they lie about their nuclear program while demanding others be open with theirs....

it is plausible as press tv said they had too much water in the dam from all the rain and released some, they already treat Palestinians like subhumans and run them over with bulldozers or shoot them to steal their land, why not take advantage of the situation with all the rain? that is why i brought up the inhumane blockade, they don't have a problem massacring and starving a populace why would they be above flooding some of them?

on the other hand it is just as plausible that it was just a freak occurrence and because of their decades of oppressive and violent occupation and land theft they automatically get the blame

i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, unlike you who automatically assume everything and anything a Palestinian or Hamas says is a lie, until it is proven right and Israel changes its story and then you shrug and say they had it coming or it was justified

ogre1213

ok here i will just paste the first few paragraphs .. to read all the lies click the link

http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/encyclopedia_E.html

Encyclopedia of Famous Palestinian Lies

The Palestinian use of lies and disinformation has been well known for many years but, in recent days it has reached new heights, the likes of which we have not seen before.
The false reports published in the Palestinian media, or by their spokespeople in the international media, have a double purpose: on the one hand, to delegitimize Israel and, on the other hand, to distract world attention from the Palestinian Authority's deep involvement in terrorism.

The Palestinian collection of lies is particularly disturbing in light of the well-known phenomenon that when a lie is repeated often enough it becomes the truth, even if it has no basis.
Even more disturbing is the willingness of the international media to serve as the instrument for publicizing the Palestinian claims, without checking their veracity and knowing that in many cases they are without foundation. The denials, if they are published later, receive much less publicity; by then, the damage has been done.

Below are a few examples of fabrications disseminated by the Palestinians:
http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/encyclopedia_E.html

the ultimate lie

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http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/167 ... nian-land/

Commy

ogre1213 wrote:

ok here i will just paste the first few paragraphs .. to read all the lies click the link

http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/encyclopedia_E.html

Encyclopedia of Famous Palestinian Lies

The Palestinian use of lies and disinformation has been well known for many years but, in recent days it has reached new heights, the likes of which we have not seen before.
The false reports published in the Palestinian media, or by their spokespeople in the international media, have a double purpose: on the one hand, to delegitimize Israel and, on the other hand, to distract world attention from the Palestinian Authority's deep involvement in terrorism.

The Palestinian collection of lies is particularly disturbing in light of the well-known phenomenon that when a lie is repeated often enough it becomes the truth, even if it has no basis.
Even more disturbing is the willingness of the international media to serve as the instrument for publicizing the Palestinian claims, without checking their veracity and knowing that in many cases they are without foundation. The denials, if they are published later, receive much less publicity; by then, the damage has been done.

Below are a few examples of fabrications disseminated by the Palestinians:
http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/encyclopedia_E.html

the ultimate lie

---

http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/167 ... nian-land/

wtf.



Israel spends 2 billion a year in the US alone on a pr campaign, don't talk to me about palestinian lies.


they have no way of competing with israeli propaganda.


seen any movies lately? inglorious basterds, valkyrie, etc etc.....funded by israel,

Byrnzie

ogre1213 wrote:

if you believe this you are crazy

seriously , this is insane, get your facts straight and from a non-propaganda website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8467543.stm

its obvious hamas is trying to capitalize from this natural disaster

Israel is saving lives:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143388.html

Neither of these articles say anything about the claim that the Israeli's opened the flood gates. So why did you post them?

TriumphantAngel

awww israel, how generous of you to give back some of the water you have been stealing from the Palestinians.

please though, not all at once. dumb asses.

whatsgoingon

In a related report Israel is stealing the air of the Palestinians


Israel is stealing the air that rightfully belongs to the Palestinians they have industrialized and many factories where built in such a way that the pollution generated blows right into Palestine. More evidence points to the US following the Israel/Jewish agenda buy having many of their high profile companies having offices in Israel.
Achmed Mohammed Ahmed Abdullah was quoted as saying "He can barely breath and this secrete plot by the Jews is killing his children. He vows they will shoot many rockets into Israel and one day become suicided bombers and hopefully they can blow up a day care center or hospital."

Byrnzie

whatsgoingon wrote:

In a related report Israel is stealing the air of the Palestinians


Israel is stealing the air that rightfully belongs to the Palestinians they have industrialized and many factories where built in such a way that the pollution generated blows right into Palestine. More evidence points to the US following the Israel/Jewish agenda buy having many of their high profile companies having offices in Israel.
Achmed Mohammed Ahmed Abdullah was quoted as saying "He can barely breath and this secrete plot by the Jews is killing his children. He vows they will shoot many rockets into Israel and one day become suicided bombers and hopefully they can blow up a day care center or hospital."

:?: :?:

This sounds like some wacky webpage job. Where's the link?

I call bullshit!

gimmesometruth27

Byrnzie wrote:

whatsgoingon wrote:

In a related report Israel is stealing the air of the Palestinians


Israel is stealing the air that rightfully belongs to the Palestinians they have industrialized and many factories where built in such a way that the pollution generated blows right into Palestine. More evidence points to the US following the Israel/Jewish agenda buy having many of their high profile companies having offices in Israel.
Achmed Mohammed Ahmed Abdullah was quoted as saying "He can barely breath and this secrete plot by the Jews is killing his children. He vows they will shoot many rockets into Israel and one day become suicided bombers and hopefully they can blow up a day care center or hospital."

:?: :?:

This sounds like some wacky webpage job. Where's the link?

i detect a little sarcasm here... :?

Byrnzie

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

whatsgoingon wrote:

In a related report Israel is stealing the air of the Palestinians


Israel is stealing the air that rightfully belongs to the Palestinians they have industrialized and many factories where built in such a way that the pollution generated blows right into Palestine. More evidence points to the US following the Israel/Jewish agenda buy having many of their high profile companies having offices in Israel.
Achmed Mohammed Ahmed Abdullah was quoted as saying "He can barely breath and this secrete plot by the Jews is killing his children. He vows they will shoot many rockets into Israel and one day become suicided bombers and hopefully they can blow up a day care center or hospital."

:?: :?:

This sounds like some wacky webpage job. Where's the link?

i detect a little sarcasm here... :?

Me too. Except it isn't funny.

whatsgoingon

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

whatsgoingon wrote:

In a related report Israel is stealing the air of the Palestinians


Israel is stealing the air that rightfully belongs to the Palestinians they have industrialized and many factories where built in such a way that the pollution generated blows right into Palestine. More evidence points to the US following the Israel/Jewish agenda buy having many of their high profile companies having offices in Israel.
Achmed Mohammed Ahmed Abdullah was quoted as saying "He can barely breath and this secrete plot by the Jews is killing his children. He vows they will shoot many rockets into Israel and one day become suicided bombers and hopefully they can blow up a day care center or hospital."

:?: :?:

This sounds like some wacky webpage job. Where's the link?

i detect a little sarcasm here... :?

winner!

gimmesometruth27

whatsgoingon wrote:

winner!

nice try, but its really no laughing matter is it?