Israel opens dam to flood Palestinians out of their homes...
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i guess they will drive them off the land so they can steal it any way they can.....
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11 ... =351020202
Gaza flooded after Israel opens dam gates
Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:41:04 GMT
Israel has opened the floodgates of one of its dams in the eastern part of the Gaza Strip, flooding Palestinian houses and causing severe damage.
The Israeli authorities opened the dam's floodgates without any prior warning or coordination with local authorities in Gaza, stunning the residents of the area, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported late on Monday.
There has been heavy rain in the region over the past 24 hours. It seems the Israeli authorities could not handle the huge amount of rainwater and decided to open the floodgates without prior warning.
Because Gaza is located in a low-lying area and the elevation decreases on the way to the Mediterranean Sea, water gushed into the area, flooding two Palestinian villages and displacing a hundred Gazan families.
The locals say Israel intentionally caused the floods, the Press TV correspondent said.
The waters from the dam, called the Valley of Gaza, flooded houses in Johr al-Deek village, which is southeast of Gaza City, and Nusirat in the eastern part of the territory, where the Al-Nusirat refugee camp is also located.
The Valley of Gaza is about 8 kilometers long. It starts on the eastern Gaza border with Israel and ends in the Mediterranean.
The houses of many Palestinians have been flooded and a number of people are trapped inside or on their roofs, while many have also gone missing, the Press TV correspondent said.
Rescue teams are using small boats to evacuate the trapped people.
Hamas has condemned the act as a war crime and has called on all concerned parties to intervene and offer assistance to the locals.
The flooding has made life more difficult for the Gazans, especially for those still living in tents because their homes were destroyed in the December 2008-January 2009 Israeli war on the Gaza Strip.
In the war, more than 1,400 people were killed, mostly women and children, and over 10,000 houses were destroyed or damaged, forcing at least 500 families to live in tents.
Very little progress is seen in reconstruction of the devastated areas in the Gaza Strip, mostly due to the Israeli blockade, which has prevented the delivery of building materials to the coastal enclave.
FTP/HGL
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=11 ... =351020202
Gaza flooded after Israel opens dam gates
Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:41:04 GMT
Israel has opened the floodgates of one of its dams in the eastern part of the Gaza Strip, flooding Palestinian houses and causing severe damage.
The Israeli authorities opened the dam's floodgates without any prior warning or coordination with local authorities in Gaza, stunning the residents of the area, the Press TV correspondent in Gaza reported late on Monday.
There has been heavy rain in the region over the past 24 hours. It seems the Israeli authorities could not handle the huge amount of rainwater and decided to open the floodgates without prior warning.
Because Gaza is located in a low-lying area and the elevation decreases on the way to the Mediterranean Sea, water gushed into the area, flooding two Palestinian villages and displacing a hundred Gazan families.
The locals say Israel intentionally caused the floods, the Press TV correspondent said.
The waters from the dam, called the Valley of Gaza, flooded houses in Johr al-Deek village, which is southeast of Gaza City, and Nusirat in the eastern part of the territory, where the Al-Nusirat refugee camp is also located.
The Valley of Gaza is about 8 kilometers long. It starts on the eastern Gaza border with Israel and ends in the Mediterranean.
The houses of many Palestinians have been flooded and a number of people are trapped inside or on their roofs, while many have also gone missing, the Press TV correspondent said.
Rescue teams are using small boats to evacuate the trapped people.
Hamas has condemned the act as a war crime and has called on all concerned parties to intervene and offer assistance to the locals.
The flooding has made life more difficult for the Gazans, especially for those still living in tents because their homes were destroyed in the December 2008-January 2009 Israeli war on the Gaza Strip.
In the war, more than 1,400 people were killed, mostly women and children, and over 10,000 houses were destroyed or damaged, forcing at least 500 families to live in tents.
Very little progress is seen in reconstruction of the devastated areas in the Gaza Strip, mostly due to the Israeli blockade, which has prevented the delivery of building materials to the coastal enclave.
FTP/HGL
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what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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seriously , this is insane, get your facts straight and from a non-propaganda website
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8467543.stm
its obvious hamas is trying to capitalize from this natural disaster
Israel is saving lives:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143388.html
we all know the bbc doesn't have a pro israeli bias, riiiiight, that explains why they didn't even want anyone giving the address to donate to a Palestinian relief fund, ya know where they don't have enough food, water, can't rebuild their destroyed infrastructure....
the bbc article doesn't even mention the claim of the dam, which haaretz at least does.
they are saving lives...right, they are saving lives by denying food and supplies to reach Palestinians causing the majority of children to suffer from acute malnutrtion and have banned everything from asparagus to crayons to tambourines from entering Gaza and they do this....to save lives, makes perfect sense!! :roll:
were the 4 people pulled from that truck Israeli or Palestinian?
some are thinking they are moving slow in their efforts
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1143841.html
Nonetheless, much infrastructure in the southern region is still out of service. "It's starting to look like one big fiasco," Hemi Tzemach of Kibbutz Kadesh Barnea said. "Bezeq [phone operator] still hasn't done anything, the Public Works Authority has yet to bring a single bulldozer and there is no electricity on the moshav in the greenhouses, vineyards, factory or packing house
though, i find it funny Israeli's are crying about them not getting power up and running fast enough when they still refuse to let Gaza rebuild a year later. maybe the damage from water to Israeli businesses is their god punishing them for stealing 80% of the water, which even the world health orginzation confirms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgReaqCI ... e=youtu.be
i guess it could be natural but could ya really blame them for thinking Israel would do something like that? violently oppressing a people while stealing land by force kinda makes some people untrusting, ya know? it seems like it could be easily verifiable if the dam was inspected to see where the water level is and if that's what it should be given all the rain
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
way to deviate from the topic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTr1pbaxmRg
IDF Twitter- wwww.twitter.com/IDFinHaiti
IDF Blog- www.idfspokesperson.com
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v ... s.cnn.html
hamas is trying to get YOU to sympathize with them, they do this all the time
theyre trying to make Israel look like the bad guy
this is a typical scapegoat scenario and i see its working
how odd, you say i'm diverting the topic of the flood by bringing up Israel's illegal blockade, which has been going on for a long time....while you post links about Israel in Haiti in every reply???
cool, Israel is helping save brown people in Haiti while exterminating brown people next door so they can forcibly steal their land....and?
i already said it's possible they could be falsely blamed for this, i still don't see what their actions in the relief effort in Haiti has to do with their treatment of the Palestinians
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
u diverted the topic first, thats why i said " way to deviate from the topic" i was just showing you more examples of how Israel is saving lives
and i never said IDFs efforts in Haiti had anything to do with the palestinians
the link you posted of the IDF pulling 4 Israeli's from a truck and saying 'they are saving lives!' had nothing to do with Palestinians just as your links about Haiti had nothing to do with them. so Israel saved some Israeli's and are helping save some Haitians, back to the topic at hand and the treatment of the Palestinians.
no, but you brought it up in a thread that did have to do with the Palestinians after saying i was diverting the topic from how many Israeli's the IDF save back to the Palestinians, which is actually what the thread is about....
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
this thread is about hamas lying and trying to blame a flood , a natural disaster, on Israel
hence the subject : "Israel opens dam to flood Palestinians out of their homes..."
i posted a video of Israel saving people from this flood, it doesn't matter WHO they are
this is not about Israel denying supplies to gaza, ok?
then as long as you deviated from the topic , i did too by citing another example of how Israel is saving lives , Haiti (which should have a thread of its own)
This sort of melodrama is why I often avoid these Israel threads now.
it is so stupid and yet here you are hitting reply time after time....
you'll have to understand Israel has very little credibility with a lot of people and so a lot feel Israel simply saying they didn't do it means squat. they constantly lie. they lied about using white phosphorous and DIME weapons (then change their story and say oh yeah, of course we used those, but it was justified because everyone and thing is an extension of Hamas so everyone /thing is a viable target), human shields, targeting red cross and UN buildings (in 1 instance lying and saying it never happened, then saying it did but it was to target militants then changed their story again saying it was a targeting error even though they were given the coordinates of such places well in advance to avoid these types of things) they lie about their nuclear program while demanding others be open with theirs....
it is plausible as press tv said they had too much water in the dam from all the rain and released some, they already treat Palestinians like subhumans and run them over with bulldozers or shoot them to steal their land, why not take advantage of the situation with all the rain? that is why i brought up the inhumane blockade, they don't have a problem massacring and starving a populace why would they be above flooding some of them?
on the other hand it is just as plausible that it was just a freak occurrence and because of their decades of oppressive and violent occupation and land theft they automatically get the blame
i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, unlike you who automatically assume everything and anything a Palestinian or Hamas says is a lie, until it is proven right and Israel changes its story and then you shrug and say they had it coming or it was justified
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/encyclopedia_E.html
Encyclopedia of Famous Palestinian Lies
The Palestinian use of lies and disinformation has been well known for many years but, in recent days it has reached new heights, the likes of which we have not seen before.
The false reports published in the Palestinian media, or by their spokespeople in the international media, have a double purpose: on the one hand, to delegitimize Israel and, on the other hand, to distract world attention from the Palestinian Authority's deep involvement in terrorism.
The Palestinian collection of lies is particularly disturbing in light of the well-known phenomenon that when a lie is repeated often enough it becomes the truth, even if it has no basis.
Even more disturbing is the willingness of the international media to serve as the instrument for publicizing the Palestinian claims, without checking their veracity and knowing that in many cases they are without foundation. The denials, if they are published later, receive much less publicity; by then, the damage has been done.
Below are a few examples of fabrications disseminated by the Palestinians:
http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/encyclopedia_E.html
the ultimate lie
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/167 ... nian-land/
wtf.
Israel spends 2 billion a year in the US alone on a pr campaign, don't talk to me about palestinian lies.
they have no way of competing with israeli propaganda.
seen any movies lately? inglorious basterds, valkyrie, etc etc.....funded by israel,
Neither of these articles say anything about the claim that the Israeli's opened the flood gates. So why did you post them?
please though, not all at once. dumb asses.
Israel is stealing the air that rightfully belongs to the Palestinians they have industrialized and many factories where built in such a way that the pollution generated blows right into Palestine. More evidence points to the US following the Israel/Jewish agenda buy having many of their high profile companies having offices in Israel.
Achmed Mohammed Ahmed Abdullah was quoted as saying "He can barely breath and this secrete plot by the Jews is killing his children. He vows they will shoot many rockets into Israel and one day become suicided bombers and hopefully they can blow up a day care center or hospital."
:?: :?:
This sounds like some wacky webpage job. Where's the link?
I call bullshit!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Me too. Except it isn't funny.
winner!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
not funny. at all.
to prove its a weather problem and just another lie from hamas
prove it, Israel is cleansing the terrorist group hamas who targets Israeli civilians, and hides behind palestinian civilians, nothing more
you will show me propaganda articles from jihadist and Iranian websites and fake pictures , its all BS, the only problem in the area is hamas, their unwillingness to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, their terrorist tactics, their war crimes of targeting civilians and hiding behind civilians
you're going to tell me , Israel is the problem they're suffocating the palestinians --
not true -
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Government/Co ... h_calm.htm
Israel is in an impossible situation of trying to eliminate their enemies who are targeting their civilians while keeping the innocent civilian population safe
bottom line is if you want there to be a two-state solution and peace hamas needs to get its act together
as israel continues to expand its illegal settlements.... :roll:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ma ... ory-byline
An IDF squad leader is quoted in the daily newspaper Ha'aretz as saying his soldiers interpreted the rules to mean "we should kill everyone there [in the centre of Gaza]. Everyone there is a terrorist."
Israel tries to claim that virtually everything and everyone was an extension of Hamas and therefor a viable target so you can save the 'Israel doesn't kill innocent people' crap
it's all hamas's fault, whose fault was it before hamas was elected? it's always them yet they are the ones who are constantly being taken from.
and even the world health organization has reported that Israel keeps 80% of the water in the region for themselves and give the Palestinians only 20%, i guess they are evil anti semites who won't recognize Israel, too, right? i guess it's the same for UNICEF and other children's rights groups that report because of the impact from Israel's blockades and closure of roads the majority of children suffer from acute malnutrition....
where are most of the rockets aimed at? perhaps at illegal settlements like sderot which used to be a Palestinian village until Israel bulldozed it down and ran them out by force then build their jewish only illegal settlement?? :roll:
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
You make it sound like there is NO valid argument coming from the Palestinian side of the fence (wall), and they are 100% at fault in all of the conflict. Saying THEY are the ones that needs to get their act together and accept YOUR stance, or.....what? be 'cleansed'?
That makes YOU sound like a fucking terrorist in my books, bub. sick.
Hmmm ... Yes and no. I see your point, cleansed is probably not a great choice of words, although it is a favorite word of the anti-Israel crowd and so maybe you shouldn't be surprised to see it turned around. Hamas DOES represent a prevailing point of view, or at least part of their ideology does. My issue with groups like this is that they do not pitch themselves as "freedom fighters" per se, although that's certainly a part of it. Rather, they overtly adopt a "wipe out Israel" stance, essentially adopting the same "genocidal" stance that many accuse the Israelis of. In this instance, it would seem, two wrongs really do make a right. In addition, Hamas uses terrorist tactics. The Isrealis have used such tactics as well, both historically and more recently. I'd argue that many of Isreali's actions involve a wantom disregard for civilian life, as opposed to overt attempts to kill civilians to acheive a political goal. If one adopts this latter view as the definition of terrorism senso stricto, Hamas clearly fits and Israel may or may not, depending on what you believe about their "true motives". Maybe ogre really does think the Palestinians are 100% at fault, and many of you guys seem to feel that the same extreme view is accurate, just flipped around. I reckon that the truth is more complex than 100% right or wrong either way. When has any conflict ever been that simple?
Personally, I'd blame Israel for continued settlement expansion and a refusal to withdraw to Israel's rightful pre-1967 borders. I'd blame Palestinian extremist elements for fanning the flames and giving the Israelis a reason to be afraid. Fear makes people do stupid things. Sorry, but shooting at someone who enters your lands to make war is one thing ... Lobbing a rocket into civilian areas is something else. Keep giving Isreal an excuse is a great way to prop up expansionist mindsets.
you're 100% right, i shouldn't have used that word
i just hate when people accuse Israel of "cleansing"
let me rephrase:
when hamas attacks, israel is targeting hamas
according to ha'aretz during operation cast lead Israel targeted everyone
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'