Mass. Now Republican

AllNiteThing

81 wrote:

liberal is just anouther word for taking away my rights and my money.

Really? Were you asleep during Bush's 8 years of the Patriot Act and putting our tax money in the hands of the wealthy elite????

AllNiteThing

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

81 wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Yeah...

But the liberals will let ya smoke all the weed you can handle!!!!

Hell, it seems to be first and foremost on their agenda.....

hehehehehehehehe

as it should be. the whole war on drugs is an absolute failure. we spend billions of $'s to keep them out of the country, to arrest, house, prosecute "criminals", yet every day of the week, more comes into the country and people continue to get high.

at the minimum, they should legalize pot, tax it (at a reasonalble level). this would create farm jobs, distribution jobs, retail jobs. it would save billions that we are wasting chasing our tail, increase taxs and decrease violence.

now the arguement for coke, crack, herion etc is a little more tricky because that shit can really fuck up your life, although, you could argue that it's no differnet that beer wine and spririts which can also be addicting and cause major health issues.

Sorry, I disagree.

You think that the 'war on drugs' has been successful?

You don't think, despite the 'war on drugs', more drugs continually come into the country at high rates?

You don't think legalizing marijuana and regulating would create revenue and jobs?

I'm confused at what exactly you don't agree with. Those points are pretty rock solid. The only reason I could see for someone disagreeing with that is if they were blindly following the dogmatic opinions of some agenda driven talking head. Who is it? Beck? Limbaugh? Hannity?

mookeywrench

Well to bring things back to the thread topic as close as possible, if weed was to get legalized I'd be willing to bet a libertarian leaning republican will do the deed before any liberal.

I agree that marijuana is harmless, which is why it works so great as an illegal/black market import. If marijuana was legalized, yeah it would get taxed and create a short term spike in revenues and jobs (although I haven't heard any long term plans of how the tobacco and alcohol industries has brought us out of the recession).

But what will that do to the drug wars on the borders? Latin American druglords will shift from marijuana being their number one export to meth and coke...which are real drugs with real problems. Creating a drug war centered around highly addictive drugs will create a serious threat that will escalate the drug war and bring it deeper into US borders and create major problems for the US. Anyone recall the opiate wars in China?

If there's going to be a drug war keep it a harmless drug and don't criminalize small amounts of possesion. Keep the corruption/cartels/and over-ran government outside of the US borders. We've got enough problems here as it is.

I say we illegallize Teddy Bears and declare that a drug as well to make the wars further outside of the US.

81

AllNiteThing wrote:

81 wrote:

liberal is just anouther word for taking away my rights and my money.

Really? Were you asleep during Bush's 8 years of the Patriot Act and putting our tax money in the hands of the wealthy elite????

Bush is just anouther word for an idiot becoming president. I despised him from day one.


the government system is so far from where it should be. it's all about money grabbing. the .gov grabs our money, china's money and when in doubt, prints money. then all the politians, business, states, city's towns, schools, you name it, try and grab money for their business or issue or what not.

it's all one massive sham

mookeywrench

81 wrote:

AllNiteThing wrote:

81 wrote:

liberal is just anouther word for taking away my rights and my money.

Really? Were you asleep during Bush's 8 years of the Patriot Act and putting our tax money in the hands of the wealthy elite????

Bush is just anouther word for an idiot becoming president. I despised him from day one.


the government system is so far from where it should be. it's all about money grabbing. the .gov grabs our money, china's money and when in doubt, prints money. then all the politians, business, states, city's towns, schools, you name it, try and grab money for their business or issue or what not.

it's all one massive sham

so why do people tend to vote for the guy who wants it to be larger and more powerful?

inmytree

81 wrote:

AllNiteThing wrote:

81 wrote:

liberal is just anouther word for taking away my rights and my money.

Really? Were you asleep during Bush's 8 years of the Patriot Act and putting our tax money in the hands of the wealthy elite????

Bush is just anouther word for an idiot becoming president. I despised him from day one.


the government system is so far from where it should be. it's all about money grabbing. the .gov grabs our money, china's money and when in doubt, prints money. then all the politians, business, states, city's towns, schools, you name it, try and grab money for their business or issue or what not.

it's all one massive sham

ha ha ha...

I love the specific solutions in your post...

grrrr..the grab our money...grrrr...they print money...grrrrr...we need to fix it....grrrr....

PRESTO CHANGO....our problems are now solved....!!!

81

mookeywrench wrote:

so why vote for a guy who wants it to be larger and more powerful?

i didn't

i voted for the green party as a protest vote. i couldn't vote for either obama or mccain

mookeywrench

81 wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

so why vote for a guy who wants it to be larger and more powerful?

i didn't

i voted for the green party as a protest vote. i couldn't vote for either obama or mccain

woops, that was suppose to be rhetoric rather than personal, doesn't come off that way now that i reread it.

neilybabes86

its amazing how fast the dems are turning against obama :roll:

alot changes in a year

81

inmytree wrote:

ha ha ha...

I love the specific solutions in your post...

grrrr..the grab our money...grrrr...they print money...grrrrr...we need to fix it....grrrr....

PRESTO CHANGO....our problems are now solved....!!!

cut the military. we don't need to be fighting wars all the time. yes we need to be stong to defend ourselves
cut the bs bailout programs. we don't need to be in the banking or auto business.
cut the bs $8k tax credit for buying a house
don't blow $4,500 on car buyers
end the war on drugs
tax pot how bout $10 per ounce. that seems fair enough



go look thru the budget sometime, it doesn't take but a minute to find hundreds of thousands of dollars that are going to pet projects of politians.

while we are at it, as a country we need to stop being so damn greedy. i'm ok with capitalism, but i'm not ok with greed (Bernie ring a bell?).

81

mookeywrench wrote:

81 wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

so why vote for a guy who wants it to be larger and more powerful?

i didn't

i voted for the green party as a protest vote. i couldn't vote for either obama or mccain

woops, that was suppose to be rhetoric rather than personal, doesn't come off that way now that i reread it.

you didn't offend me.

mookeywrench

81 wrote:

go look thru the budget sometime, it doesn't take but a minute to find hundreds of thousands of dollars that are going to pet projects of politians.

while we are at it, as a country we need to stop being so damn greedy. i'm ok with capitalism, but i'm not ok with greed (Bernie ring a bell?).

whether its pure free market capitalism or pure socialism; greed, corruption, and deceit will always be around as long as we're dealing with human nature.

81

mookeywrench wrote:

81 wrote:

go look thru the budget sometime, it doesn't take but a minute to find hundreds of thousands of dollars that are going to pet projects of politians.

while we are at it, as a country we need to stop being so damn greedy. i'm ok with capitalism, but i'm not ok with greed (Bernie ring a bell?).

whether its pure free market capitalism or pure socialism; greed, corruption, and deceit will always be around as long as we're dealing with human nature.

and that's sad. if we could remove that element from hte population, the world would be a better place.

60 minutes did a report not to long ago on phoney medicaid payments. i forget how much the US pays out in fradulent claims, but it was alot. now if you could remove that from the system, you could also remove the expense of fighting the fraudsters which would be a positive for all of us.

perhaps we should reallocate the funds from the war on drugs and apply them to the war on fraud.

81

if anyone gets bored, here is a good place to see where some of your money is going

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy10/db.html

inmytree

81 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

ha ha ha...

I love the specific solutions in your post...

grrrr..the grab our money...grrrr...they print money...grrrrr...we need to fix it....grrrr....

PRESTO CHANGO....our problems are now solved....!!!

cut the military. we don't need to be fighting wars all the time. yes we need to be stong to defend ourselves
cut the bs bailout programs. we don't need to be in the banking or auto business.
cut the bs $8k tax credit for buying a house
don't blow $4,500 on car buyers
end the war on drugs
tax pot how bout $10 per ounce. that seems fair enough



go look thru the budget sometime, it doesn't take but a minute to find hundreds of thousands of dollars that are going to pet projects of politians.

while we are at it, as a country we need to stop being so damn greedy. i'm ok with capitalism, but i'm not ok with greed (Bernie ring a bell?).

military: yeah, that sounds easy enough...If memory serves me right, Obama did cut the budget and the repubs went bat shit....

bailout: bush and company should have never did this...

tax credit: I suppose...I'd be willing to bet this is a drop in the bucket...but hey, what ever...

cash for clunkers: short, targeted and successful...it worked...it's done...time to move on...

war on drugs: sounds good...

as for the pet projects....I agree or disagree....some are just stupid and wasteful...some are pretty good...I get emails from my jackass congressman touting projects like Veterans Assistance...and Beach Re-nourishment...and Helping the Elderly Pay there Heating Bills...



as for Greed and Capitalism...I hate to break to you...they go hand in hand...

81

the CD and DVD industryies are in the crapper. should we give everyone that buys a dvd or cd $2 back?

i hear restraunt sales are down. perhaps we should give everyone that eats out 10 times a gift certificate for a free meal.

what other industries are hurting? i've got money from them as well. come and get it.

pjhawks

81 wrote:

the CD and DVD industryies are in the crapper. should we give everyone that buys a dvd or cd $2 back?

i hear restraunt sales are down. perhaps we should give everyone that eats out 10 times a gift certificate for a free meal.

what other industries are hurting? i've got money from them as well. come and get it.

How about a spelling class? Just saying it might do you some good since there are lots of mistakes in your posts.

81

pjhawks wrote:

81 wrote:

the CD and DVD industryies are in the crapper. should we give everyone that buys a dvd or cd $2 back?

i hear restraunt sales are down. perhaps we should give everyone that eats out 10 times a gift certificate for a free meal.

what other industries are hurting? i've got money from them as well. come and get it.

How about a spelling class? Just saying it might do you some good since there are lots of mistakes in your posts.

perhaps the .gov will pay for it.

but for the record, i suck at spelling, if the forum had an F7 fuction, i'd be happy to use it. until then, i apologize in advance for any further issues.

inmytree

81 wrote:

the CD and DVD industryies are in the crapper. should we give everyone that buys a dvd or cd $2 back?

i hear restraunt sales are down. perhaps we should give everyone that eats out 10 times a gift certificate for a free meal.

what other industries are hurting? i've got money from them as well. come and get it.

random.... :?

as for spellun...use the Firefox browser...it has spell check...

PearlOfAGirl

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