So since no one else is talking about it. Why is Venezuela and France calling US support to Haiti occupation. Would they rather out support go away? The US is there augmenting UN forces and Haiti police forces. I guess we can do nothing right.
What happened was that a French plane wanted to land with supplies, but the US had the air strips tied up, so they said we were occupying it, which we were in that sense. We were "occupying" the airstrips at that moment in time.
Natuarlly, it turned into "we were occupying" in the other sense. And so what?
I lived in Fort Lauderdale back in the early 70's. I can remember "the boat people" coming ashore all the time. I was young and dumb and thought they were Cubans, but they were Haitians. They would have these big row boats with 50 to 100 people aboard and would just row up to the beach. It was a very regular. It would often be at dusk. I couldn't believe that they could come ashore on a public beach like that and avoid immigration. It was a different time, I guess. We didn't know how vulnerable we were and didn't have such tight security.
Anyway, way back then these people were desperate. It only got worse in the 40 or so years since. I guess we should "occupy" a place where such suffering is happening. Its humane. I do know the US doesn't do these things for "humanity" reasons. I know they have their own agenda, yet...does it matter? People still need the help.
Anyway, way back then these people were desperate. It only got worse in the 40 or so years since. I guess we should "occupy" a place where such suffering is happening. Its humane. I do know the US doesn't do these things for "humanity" reasons. I know they have their own agenda, yet...does it matter? People still need the help.
It does matter, because in most cases (not speaking of the current situation in Haiti), that agenda has nothing to do with helping people. It usually makes things worse for the (poor) majority when the Western world operates in the third world for non-humantarian purposes. Even much of the humanitarian 'aid' is LOANED - a morally 'justifiable' way to saddle these countries with debt.
Statement of Congressman Ron Paul
United States House of Representatives
Statement in Opposition to H Res 1021, Condolences to Haiti
January 21, 2010
I rise in reluctant opposition to this resolution. Certainly I am moved by the horrific destruction in Haiti and would without hesitation express condolences to those who have suffered and continue to suffer. As a medical doctor, I have through my career worked to alleviate the pain and suffering of others. Unfortunately, however, this resolution does not simply express our condolences, but rather it commits the US government "to begin the reconstruction of Haiti" and affirms that "the recovery and long-term needs of Haiti will require a sustained commitment by the United States. . . ." I do not believe that a resolution expressing our deep regret and sorrow over this tragedy should be used to commit the United States to a "long-term" occupation of Haiti during which time the US government will provide for the reconstruction of that country.
I am concerned over the possibility of an open-ended US military occupation of Haiti and this legislation does nothing to alleviate my concerns. On the contrary, when this resolution refers to the need for a long term US plan for Haiti, I see a return to the failed attempts by the Clinton and Bush Administrations to establish Haiti as an American protectorate. Already we are seeing many argue that this kind of humanitarian mission is a perfect fit for the US military. I do not agree.
Certainly I would support and encourage the efforts of the American people to help the people of Haiti at this tragic time. I believe that the American people are very generous on their own and fear that a US government commitment to reconstruct Haiti may actually discourage private contributions. Mr. Speaker, already we see private US citizens and corporations raising millions of dollars for relief and reconstruction of Haiti. I do not believe the US government should get in the way of these laudable efforts. I do express my condolences but I unfortunately must urge my colleagues to vote against this resolution committing the United States government to rebuild Haiti.
So since no one else is talking about it. Why is Venezuela and France calling US support to Haiti occupation. Would they rather out support go away? The US is there augmenting UN forces and Haiti police forces. I guess we can do nothing right.
What happened was that a French plane wanted to land with supplies, but the US had the air strips tied up, so they said we were occupying it, which we were in that sense. We were "occupying" the airstrips at that moment in time.
Natuarlly, it turned into "we were occupying" in the other sense. And so what?
I lived in Fort Lauderdale back in the early 70's. I can remember "the boat people" coming ashore all the time. I was young and dumb and thought they were Cubans, but they were Haitians. They would have these big row boats with 50 to 100 people aboard and would just row up to the beach. It was a very regular. It would often be at dusk. I couldn't believe that they could come ashore on a public beach like that and avoid immigration. It was a different time, I guess. We didn't know how vulnerable we were and didn't have such tight security.
Anyway, way back then these people were desperate. It only got worse in the 40 or so years since. I guess we should "occupy" a place where such suffering is happening. Its humane. I do know the US doesn't do these things for "humanity" reasons. I know they have their own agenda, yet...does it matter? People still need the help.
No ma'am they think we are there to stay
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So since no one else is talking about it. Why is Venezuela and France calling US support to Haiti occupation. Would they rather out support go away? The US is there augmenting UN forces and Haiti police forces. I guess we can do nothing right.
What happened was that a French plane wanted to land with supplies, but the US had the air strips tied up, so they said we were occupying it, which we were in that sense. We were "occupying" the airstrips at that moment in time.
Natuarlly, it turned into "we were occupying" in the other sense. And so what?
I lived in Fort Lauderdale back in the early 70's. I can remember "the boat people" coming ashore all the time. I was young and dumb and thought they were Cubans, but they were Haitians. They would have these big row boats with 50 to 100 people aboard and would just row up to the beach. It was a very regular. It would often be at dusk. I couldn't believe that they could come ashore on a public beach like that and avoid immigration. It was a different time, I guess. We didn't know how vulnerable we were and didn't have such tight security.
Anyway, way back then these people were desperate. It only got worse in the 40 or so years since. I guess we should "occupy" a place where such suffering is happening. Its humane. I do know the US doesn't do these things for "humanity" reasons. I know they have their own agenda, yet...does it matter? People still need the help.
No ma'am they think we are there to stay
But this is how that started. The occupation of the air landing strip and then they said we were occupying, period. At least that is how ALL the major news networks are portraying it.
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Natuarlly, it turned into "we were occupying" in the other sense. And so what?
I lived in Fort Lauderdale back in the early 70's. I can remember "the boat people" coming ashore all the time. I was young and dumb and thought they were Cubans, but they were Haitians. They would have these big row boats with 50 to 100 people aboard and would just row up to the beach. It was a very regular. It would often be at dusk. I couldn't believe that they could come ashore on a public beach like that and avoid immigration. It was a different time, I guess. We didn't know how vulnerable we were and didn't have such tight security.
Anyway, way back then these people were desperate. It only got worse in the 40 or so years since. I guess we should "occupy" a place where such suffering is happening. Its humane. I do know the US doesn't do these things for "humanity" reasons. I know they have their own agenda, yet...does it matter? People still need the help.
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Statement of Congressman Ron Paul
United States House of Representatives
Statement in Opposition to H Res 1021, Condolences to Haiti
January 21, 2010
I rise in reluctant opposition to this resolution. Certainly I am moved by the horrific destruction in Haiti and would without hesitation express condolences to those who have suffered and continue to suffer. As a medical doctor, I have through my career worked to alleviate the pain and suffering of others. Unfortunately, however, this resolution does not simply express our condolences, but rather it commits the US government "to begin the reconstruction of Haiti" and affirms that "the recovery and long-term needs of Haiti will require a sustained commitment by the United States. . . ." I do not believe that a resolution expressing our deep regret and sorrow over this tragedy should be used to commit the United States to a "long-term" occupation of Haiti during which time the US government will provide for the reconstruction of that country.
I am concerned over the possibility of an open-ended US military occupation of Haiti and this legislation does nothing to alleviate my concerns. On the contrary, when this resolution refers to the need for a long term US plan for Haiti, I see a return to the failed attempts by the Clinton and Bush Administrations to establish Haiti as an American protectorate. Already we are seeing many argue that this kind of humanitarian mission is a perfect fit for the US military. I do not agree.
Certainly I would support and encourage the efforts of the American people to help the people of Haiti at this tragic time. I believe that the American people are very generous on their own and fear that a US government commitment to reconstruct Haiti may actually discourage private contributions. Mr. Speaker, already we see private US citizens and corporations raising millions of dollars for relief and reconstruction of Haiti. I do not believe the US government should get in the way of these laudable efforts. I do express my condolences but I unfortunately must urge my colleagues to vote against this resolution committing the United States government to rebuild Haiti.
No ma'am they think we are there to stay
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II