DISCLAIMER: These are all generalizations, of course, and do not apply to every single woman, relationship, or situation. Also, I'm aware that some of them should be in the handbook for women as well. This is not a criticism of men, only a helpful guide.
then really the thread should be understanding people...because in the end, it's not so much the sexes that need to understand each other, but the individual
Rule for guys: If she has a list of rules, she is not worth it.
Rule for women: If he needs a list of rules, he's not worth it.
(But we'll try to help him out anyway because we feel sorry for him, and for the girls he'll try to get with in the future.)
Rule #1 for women(and I use that term loosely)....
Dont try to change a guy in to something he is not.......
I don't and I wouldn't want to.
But you have to admit that some guys are clueless when it comes to how to interact with women, and many of them ask for advice. This thread is for them.
It's not a criticism of them or the rest of you (though some men sure are sensitive about these things). As I said before, there are people of both sexes who could use advice at least every now and then, and I'd love to see one of you men start a Handbook for Women thread.
Hahaha.... I just turned on my computer and this article was the first thing that popped up on the (pre-set) MSN home page:
27 Things Men Don't Know About Women
Female celebrities offer relationship secrets and dating advice for the opposite gender. Now maybe they'll learn something.
Life and relationships are not that fucking difficult.....
Just be yourself....
Act naturally.....
Dont tell anyone how they should behave...
Dont make lists.....On how anyone should be treated....
Dont make lists of what is right and what is wrong.....
It is not that difficult.........
Speedy, thats the smartest thing I've ever heard you say.
I remember dating a girl.....About 15 years ago....
We dated for 3 months or so....And she was fucking constantly telling me how to act, how to dress, how to blah blah blah.....
Anyone who has met me knows god damned good and well, that I will take care of myself any god damned way I want to.....PERIOD!!!! Do not tell me how to do ANYTHING, because I am pretty fucking sure I can take care of myself.....
Anyway I am supposed to meet her family on Thanksgiving.....But FIRST I go to my familys house and spend a few hours with my mom......
I get to her familys house...Her brother(a friend of mine) opens the door.....I walk in and introduce myself and shake hands with about 10-15 of her family members....I see her standing at the kitchen door, with a shitty look on her face......She proceeds with....."Where were you?? Why are you so late?? I told you dinner was at 4:00.....I dont believe you were at your moms.....Whats the other girls name"???
I turned around and starting shaking everyones hand again and telling them it was a pleasure to meet them, and opened the front door.....
Each and every person there, knew it was the last time I would ever see them....
My buddy walks to the front door and says to me as I am leaving....
"I told you 3 months ago my sister was an asshole"
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Just a story about an ignorant bitch I once dated......
Understandable you dumped her, but I'm sure she had other qualities that brought you to her in the first place.
Hahaha.... I just turned on my computer and this article was the first thing that popped up on the (pre-set) MSN home page:
27 Things Men Don't Know About Women
Female celebrities offer relationship secrets and dating advice for the opposite gender. Now maybe they'll learn something.
Not an attack on you....
Not being personal.....
Just making an observation, based on your posts the last 2 days....
YOU are either angry at ONE certain man.....
or....
YOU hate all men in general......heheheheheheheheheh
Ive been there.....Its been 20 or so years....
But there was a time when every female I ever knew.....Could drop dead, and I would have thrown a party!!!! hehehehehehehehehehe
I don't hate men at all, and I'm not angry at anyone.
But my posts in the past couple of days (as I thought I had already mentioned somewhere) have been most recently inspired by a particular guy who's been trying to get me to go out with him but is absolutely fucking clueless about how to interact with women. I feel bad for the guy, especially since, when I told him to leave me alone, he complained that he doesn't understand women and can't understand why they always take him the wrong way and won't go out with him.
I have known MANY guys like this in my life who are good guys, but can never get a girlfriend and don't understand why. The ones who have dealt well enough with rejection to remain my friends have asked for my advice. The ones who followed it got girlfriends, and sometimes wives and happy families. So I'm just saying that there are guys out there who don't need to be changed, but who just need (and want) a little insight. They can take it or leave it.
And for the record, I don't have any trouble getting a date. (That was a childish assumption, by the way.) What I have trouble with, and would love to see a Handbook for Women thread about, is rejecting the guys who ask me out or breaking things off with the ones I'm dating. I never want to hurt anyone's feelings.
I think this is thread is a good idea. Although I'd also like to see Understanding Men: A Handbook for Women, at 42 I still haven't got a clue what goes on in mens head a lot of the time.
Ones for the list;
If your girlfriend/wife/partner is covered in snot, barking like a dog and hasn't slept properly for a week don't assume that she is up for a night of passion and that giving you a BJ is going to cure all her ills.
Your girlfriend/wife/partner really doesn't need to be told they have put a little weight on over the holiday season. They know.
then really the thread should be understanding people...because in the end, it's not so much the sexes that need to understand each other, but the individual
awesome!
and.... i think that is what ms. scb was implying all along!
then really the thread should be understanding people...because in the end, it's not so much the sexes that need to understand each other, but the individual
awesome!
and.... i think that is what ms. scb was implying all along!
EXACTLY!!!...Because There's NO Understanding WOMEN!...lol :P :P :P
Hahaha.... I just turned on my computer and this article was the first thing that popped up on the (pre-set) MSN home page:
27 Things Men Don't Know About Women
Female celebrities offer relationship secrets and dating advice for the opposite gender. Now maybe they'll learn something.
Ok...I had read through this article and have to say the majority of it is bullshit. Typical Cosmo advise for women.
"When you break up with us, that means it's over, and we will only sleep with you two or three more times." Are you kidding me? That she'll sleep with you again means she's keeping you on the back burner until something better comes along. Ditch her.
"We can tell how good you'll be in bed by how good you are on the dance floor." Total BS. I've met men who can dance and were complete idiots in bed.
"We want dessert. We want you to order dessert. What we don't want is for you to ask us if we want dessert." Seriously? If I want dessert, I'm ordering. I don't need your approval to do so.
"When we ask which outfit we should wear, humor us with an answer — just pick one already! — but expect us to go with the one you didn't choose." Again....maybe it's me and my independence. I argue enough with myself on what to wear, I don't need another opinion in here.
"Call us back right away. That 'three day' crap does not apply. We're getting older and we don't have time to screw around. Wait too long and we'll lose interest. Trust me on this one." I'm throwing this back on women. If you're interested in the guy, grow a pair and call him. Don't sit around and wait for him to debate the three day "rule".
"PMS is not a lame excuse to be able to yell at you. It's a great excuse." Any woman who uses this as an excuse to be a douche needs to have her ovaries removed. Sorry ladies, learn to deal with it yourself.
"We need you to be reachable at all times, but we don't always pick up our phones when you call. We realize this seems like a double standard; if you'd like to discuss it further, just leave a message." Ball and chain much? If I call you and you're not around, I leave a message. You have a life outside of our relationship. Women need to realize that.
A couple of winners:
"When considering whether or not to ask out the girl you're afraid to talk to, keep this in mind: No matter who you are or what you look like, it's always flattering when you hit on us. Always." Goes to a few threads on here recently. If you're interested, ask.
"We're afraid of commitment, too. You may think we spend our time scheming ways to trap you into marriage, but many of us are quite happy being independent and autonomous. Besides, we're not in any rush to quit lusting after young Calvin Klein models." Amen.
"We hate baby showers as much as you assume a sane person would." Seriously, stick a pen in my eye. Probably worse than bamboo chutes under my toenails.
"Supersecret: Unless we're blind or have no night-light in the bathroom, the whole toilet-seat thing is exaggerated and meant to control you." Ding, ding, ding!!! we have a winner!! Of all of them, this one is dead on right.
believe it or not, we don't "need" anything. that is only the spoiled brat in us trying to fill some temporary solution to an emptyness that does not exist.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
Men: If you meet a girl, don't wait a day to call her. You won't seem over anxious and instead she will be flattered, that is if she likes you also. otherwise your'e just a creep. I hate when a guy waits to call. I move on and figure that he just wasn't that much into me and by waiting to call, it seems like a booty call and not that he really likes me.
Oh, and don't be surprised if she moves on pretty quick after you two break up. Most women I know have some guy on the back burner. I always did. I don't now, but could make it happen pretty darn fast.
Hahaha.... I just turned on my computer and this article was the first thing that popped up on the (pre-set) MSN home page:
27 Things Men Don't Know About Women
Female celebrities offer relationship secrets and dating advice for the opposite gender. Now maybe they'll learn something.
Ok...I had read through this article and have to say the majority of it is bullshit. Typical Cosmo advise for women.
"When you break up with us, that means it's over, and we will only sleep with you two or three more times." Are you kidding me? That she'll sleep with you again means she's keeping you on the back burner until something better comes along. Ditch her.
"We can tell how good you'll be in bed by how good you are on the dance floor." Total BS. I've met men who can dance and were complete idiots in bed.
"We want dessert. We want you to order dessert. What we don't want is for you to ask us if we want dessert." Seriously? If I want dessert, I'm ordering. I don't need your approval to do so.
"When we ask which outfit we should wear, humor us with an answer — just pick one already! — but expect us to go with the one you didn't choose." Again....maybe it's me and my independence. I argue enough with myself on what to wear, I don't need another opinion in here.
"Call us back right away. That 'three day' crap does not apply. We're getting older and we don't have time to screw around. Wait too long and we'll lose interest. Trust me on this one." I'm throwing this back on women. If you're interested in the guy, grow a pair and call him. Don't sit around and wait for him to debate the three day "rule".
"PMS is not a lame excuse to be able to yell at you. It's a great excuse." Any woman who uses this as an excuse to be a douche needs to have her ovaries removed. Sorry ladies, learn to deal with it yourself.
"We need you to be reachable at all times, but we don't always pick up our phones when you call. We realize this seems like a double standard; if you'd like to discuss it further, just leave a message." Ball and chain much? If I call you and you're not around, I leave a message. You have a life outside of our relationship. Women need to realize that.
A couple of winners:
"When considering whether or not to ask out the girl you're afraid to talk to, keep this in mind: No matter who you are or what you look like, it's always flattering when you hit on us. Always." Goes to a few threads on here recently. If you're interested, ask.
"We're afraid of commitment, too. You may think we spend our time scheming ways to trap you into marriage, but many of us are quite happy being independent and autonomous. Besides, we're not in any rush to quit lusting after young Calvin Klein models." Amen.
"We hate baby showers as much as you assume a sane person would." Seriously, stick a pen in my eye. Probably worse than bamboo chutes under my toenails.
"Supersecret: Unless we're blind or have no night-light in the bathroom, the whole toilet-seat thing is exaggerated and meant to control you." Ding, ding, ding!!! we have a winner!! Of all of them, this one is dead on right.
I have to agree with the commitment part. That's the last thing I have ever looked for, but I do insist on monogamy. I don't want to catch the diseases you may have caught!! I want you to tell me if you are doing anyone else. From my experience, most of you guys lie about this!
Hahaha.... I just turned on my computer and this article was the first thing that popped up on the (pre-set) MSN home page:
27 Things Men Don't Know About Women
Female celebrities offer relationship secrets and dating advice for the opposite gender. Now maybe they'll learn something.
Ok...I had read through this article and have to say the majority of it is bullshit. Typical Cosmo advise for women.
Hey, I didn't say it was good advice. I just though it was noteworthy that MSN also thinks guys (no, not ALL guys) want advice on how to interact with women.
I hate when a guy waits to call. I move on and figure that he just wasn't that much into me and by waiting to call, it seems like a booty call and not that he really likes me.
I tend to agree. I don't expect a guy to just drop everything and call me, but I also don't like it when guys play games.
Hey, I didn't say it was good advice. I just though it was noteworthy that MSN also thinks guys (no, not ALL guys) want advice on how to interact with women.
I DON'T need a Women to "Interact" with...I DID that Perfectly on My 'OWN' Earlier...lol
I think this is thread is a good idea. Although I'd also like to see Understanding Men: A Handbook for Women, at 42 I still haven't got a clue what goes on in mens head a lot of the time.
Ones for the list;
If your girlfriend/wife/partner is covered in snot, barking like a dog and hasn't slept properly for a week don't assume that she is up for a night of passion and that giving you a BJ is going to cure all her ills.
Your girlfriend/wife/partner really doesn't need to be told they have put a little weight on over the holiday season. They know.
The more I read you posts, the more I like you Claireack
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
No offense intended to the OP, but this thread seems a tad bit filled with man-hate. Entertaining, nonetheless. :think:
I think the answer for man/woman is simple... let your woman/man be themselves. If you don't like them being themselves, then move on. If you do, awesome. Just don't go trying to change people, cause they ain't changin unless they, themselves, want to.
I think the answer for man/woman is simple... let your woman/man be themselves. If you don't like them being themselves, then move on. If you do, awesome. Just don't go trying to change people, cause they ain't changin unless they, themselves, want to.
Absolutely seconded. :thumbup:
Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
"Supersecret: Unless we're blind or have no night-light in the bathroom, the whole toilet-seat thing is exaggerated and meant to control you."
Ding, ding, ding!!! we have a winner!! Of all of them, this one is dead on right.
wow. couldn't disagree more!
i grew up in a house with four females and one male. my dad... always used my parents bathroom.
i HATE when men leave the seat up. i have never bitched, whined, complained and tried to "control" any man i was with if (and of course WHEN) they left the seat up. But... i do think it is more or less gross and rude. If almost 1/2 of their "goings on" and 100 % of our "goings on" require the seat DOWN.. then why is it i have to put my clean hands on the toilet seat because they chose to put it up to take a leak?
They already have to wash their hands just after taking their leak... so they touch the toilet... take a leak... touch toilet...wash hands! ...no biggie! When we sit down to use the toilet.... we then have to take care of our business with our hands already soiled should we need to move the seat prior to its use.
DING DING DING... Disagree that it's a way to control and just think it's etiquette, hygiene and sense.
AND FYI! I keep a very clean bathroom! So please don't anyone even try any bullshit that i dont want to touch the toilet because MY bath isn't clean... and what about the random people that leave your toilet up? Just rude and inconsiderate... IMO.
And btw! Really.... we should all put the lid down too! Before flushing! That's what it was made for!
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I have no idea why I didnt dump her right there and then....
Wait a second....Yes i do.....
She gave incredible head.......aches!!!! hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Yes, I do. You understand that there are more of these guys around than you might thing... :(
I agree.
I don't and I wouldn't want to.
But you have to admit that some guys are clueless when it comes to how to interact with women, and many of them ask for advice. This thread is for them.
It's not a criticism of them or the rest of you (though some men sure are sensitive about these things). As I said before, there are people of both sexes who could use advice at least every now and then, and I'd love to see one of you men start a Handbook for Women thread.
Not being personal.....
Just making an observation, based on your posts the last 2 days....
YOU are either angry at ONE certain man.....
or....
YOU hate all men in general......heheheheheheheheheh
Ive been there.....Its been 20 or so years....
But there was a time when every female I ever knew.....Could drop dead, and I would have thrown a party!!!! hehehehehehehehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I don't hate men at all, and I'm not angry at anyone.
But my posts in the past couple of days (as I thought I had already mentioned somewhere) have been most recently inspired by a particular guy who's been trying to get me to go out with him but is absolutely fucking clueless about how to interact with women. I feel bad for the guy, especially since, when I told him to leave me alone, he complained that he doesn't understand women and can't understand why they always take him the wrong way and won't go out with him.
I have known MANY guys like this in my life who are good guys, but can never get a girlfriend and don't understand why. The ones who have dealt well enough with rejection to remain my friends have asked for my advice. The ones who followed it got girlfriends, and sometimes wives and happy families. So I'm just saying that there are guys out there who don't need to be changed, but who just need (and want) a little insight. They can take it or leave it.
And for the record, I don't have any trouble getting a date. (That was a childish assumption, by the way.) What I have trouble with, and would love to see a Handbook for Women thread about, is rejecting the guys who ask me out or breaking things off with the ones I'm dating. I never want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Im gonna let that go....hehehehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
i
awesome!
and.... i think that is what ms. scb was implying all along!
EXACTLY!!!...Because There's NO Understanding WOMEN!...lol :P :P :P
That is all I have to say.
Ok...I had read through this article and have to say the majority of it is bullshit. Typical Cosmo advise for women.
"When you break up with us, that means it's over, and we will only sleep with you two or three more times." Are you kidding me? That she'll sleep with you again means she's keeping you on the back burner until something better comes along. Ditch her.
"We can tell how good you'll be in bed by how good you are on the dance floor." Total BS. I've met men who can dance and were complete idiots in bed.
"We want dessert. We want you to order dessert. What we don't want is for you to ask us if we want dessert." Seriously? If I want dessert, I'm ordering. I don't need your approval to do so.
"When we ask which outfit we should wear, humor us with an answer — just pick one already! — but expect us to go with the one you didn't choose." Again....maybe it's me and my independence. I argue enough with myself on what to wear, I don't need another opinion in here.
"Call us back right away. That 'three day' crap does not apply. We're getting older and we don't have time to screw around. Wait too long and we'll lose interest. Trust me on this one." I'm throwing this back on women. If you're interested in the guy, grow a pair and call him. Don't sit around and wait for him to debate the three day "rule".
"PMS is not a lame excuse to be able to yell at you. It's a great excuse." Any woman who uses this as an excuse to be a douche needs to have her ovaries removed. Sorry ladies, learn to deal with it yourself.
"We need you to be reachable at all times, but we don't always pick up our phones when you call. We realize this seems like a double standard; if you'd like to discuss it further, just leave a message." Ball and chain much? If I call you and you're not around, I leave a message. You have a life outside of our relationship. Women need to realize that.
A couple of winners:
"When considering whether or not to ask out the girl you're afraid to talk to, keep this in mind: No matter who you are or what you look like, it's always flattering when you hit on us. Always." Goes to a few threads on here recently. If you're interested, ask.
"We're afraid of commitment, too. You may think we spend our time scheming ways to trap you into marriage, but many of us are quite happy being independent and autonomous. Besides, we're not in any rush to quit lusting after young Calvin Klein models." Amen.
"We hate baby showers as much as you assume a sane person would." Seriously, stick a pen in my eye. Probably worse than bamboo chutes under my toenails.
"Supersecret: Unless we're blind or have no night-light in the bathroom, the whole toilet-seat thing is exaggerated and meant to control you." Ding, ding, ding!!! we have a winner!! Of all of them, this one is dead on right.
I have eaten so much gold I crapped excellence - drtyfrnk29
Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all!
At the end of the day, life is about accumulating stuff (and that includes people)... Why shouldn't you accumulate things you like?
Oh, and don't be surprised if she moves on pretty quick after you two break up. Most women I know have some guy on the back burner. I always did. I don't now, but could make it happen pretty darn fast.
Hey, I didn't say it was good advice. I just though it was noteworthy that MSN also thinks guys (no, not ALL guys) want advice on how to interact with women.
I tend to agree. I don't expect a guy to just drop everything and call me, but I also don't like it when guys play games.
Don't piss me off! :twisted:
The best way to do that is to be responsible for yourself. If I wanted a child I would have had one by now
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I didn't mean it that way, I meant it this way.
"I only like men with big pecs, abs, biceps''
''I only go for men with a nice car''
I second that!
"do gay midgets come out of the cupboard"
~CreedDisease~
10/27/06
I DON'T need a Women to "Interact" with...I DID that Perfectly on My 'OWN' Earlier...lol
"do gay midgets come out of the cupboard"
~CreedDisease~
10/27/06
The more I read you posts, the more I like you Claireack
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
I think the answer for man/woman is simple... let your woman/man be themselves. If you don't like them being themselves, then move on. If you do, awesome. Just don't go trying to change people, cause they ain't changin unless they, themselves, want to.
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... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
. . . and nobody knows what they are.
Possibly not even the woman :?
wow. couldn't disagree more!
i grew up in a house with four females and one male. my dad... always used my parents bathroom.
i HATE when men leave the seat up. i have never bitched, whined, complained and tried to "control" any man i was with if (and of course WHEN) they left the seat up. But... i do think it is more or less gross and rude. If almost 1/2 of their "goings on" and 100 % of our "goings on" require the seat DOWN.. then why is it i have to put my clean hands on the toilet seat because they chose to put it up to take a leak?
They already have to wash their hands just after taking their leak... so they touch the toilet... take a leak... touch toilet...wash hands! ...no biggie! When we sit down to use the toilet.... we then have to take care of our business with our hands already soiled should we need to move the seat prior to its use.
DING DING DING... Disagree that it's a way to control and just think it's etiquette, hygiene and sense.
AND FYI! I keep a very clean bathroom! So please don't anyone even try any bullshit that i dont want to touch the toilet because MY bath isn't clean... and what about the random people that leave your toilet up? Just rude and inconsiderate... IMO.
And btw! Really.... we should all put the lid down too! Before flushing! That's what it was made for!