why can't ohio state do them, especially with the talent they have? but they've never been able to run an effective passing game...
because Massoli isn't a QB who can throw 50 times a game an be affective. The reason Massoli has success is because they run the ball so well that teams need to play the run. Purdue has a history of guys who are throwers- that's why it's called Quarterback U. Purdue is built to throw it 50 times a game. Painter did it, Brees did it, Orton did it and now Elliot does it. Every year Purdue's QB is top 10 in the country in passing attempts per game. Elliot had 433 attempts this year, and Painter was ranked 3rd and 4th in the nation the last 2 years with over 500 attempts.
That is the difference. Purdue is built for that type of game and they have the system and QB's to do it. Masoli is built for a spread option, not to throw 75% of the time. It's like asking Pryor to do it, either you have the guy to do it or you don't. This is why Cincinnati would beat Ohio State, they run the exact offense Purdue runs.
Purdue is built to play to Ohio State's main weakness this season on defense (DB tackling) and play away from Ohio State's biggest overall strength (defensive line pass rush). Oregon is not.
who gives a shit about massoli and what he can do? i asked why ohio state cannot mount a passing attack.
You may want to switch teams if you think Ohio State is going to bring in a system where they throw it 50 times a game.
and why should Ohio State switch to that? They can run against Oregon. Tressel is conservative, but if you play the game the way you need to (blocking and no turnovers), you can win in any conference. Do you ever watch Alabama? They play at 3 today, watch them. They run a system that is similar to Ohio State's and they can hang with any team in the country.
shit, LSU runs a system just like Ohio State and they don't see to have a problem beating anyone. The problem isn't the system or coaches playcalling, it's execution. If guys blow blocks, turn the ball over, and have dumb penalties, they are going to lose. That is exactly what happened in every Ohio State loss in a big game- every single one.
go look at every loss, Ohio State had huge turnovers, and penalties
If you want to look at the USC game, look at it both ways. Both teams played USC at home, Ohio State did nothing against them, Oregon crushed USC this year. Over 600 yards of offense against a defence that held OSU under 300.
I would also argue the talent on defense at Oregon is better than UM right now, I am a UM fan, I watch them alot.
I'm saying that Michigan has more talent on their O-Line than Oregon does just on recruiting alone. Michigan's defense is horrid, which is why Tressel just toyed with them for half the game. He knew he could just run it at them and they would give up first downs. No need to pass when you are doing whatever you want on the ground
Comparing opponents never works as teams prepare differently for them than they would for eachother. USC is a similar opponent but there are more factors which is why they play the games.
USC is not a similar opponent. Not this year. USC has been terrible all year, they had a couple of nice early season victories but that's it. There is a reason they finished 6th in the Pac-10.
The only way Ohio St. has a chance is if they win the Turnover battle and convert them into points.
This is sweet! I start a thread about the Ducks and now the Bucks fans are arguing about how bad they are!
yeah we get upset when we lose 2 games a season or don't blow everyone out. Much different than what Oregon fans expect from their teams
But if anyone watched the Cardinals/Vikings game last night that is how Purdue beat Ohio State. They did it the exact same way the Cards beat the Vikings. Took away their strength (Dline pass rush) by playing out of shotgun and running quick passes. That is what Purdue is built for, and Oregon can't run like that.
This is sweet! I start a thread about the Ducks and now the Bucks fans are arguing about how bad they are!
yeah we get upset when we lose 2 games a season or don't blow everyone out. Much different than what Oregon fans expect from their teams
But if anyone watched the Cardinals/Vikings game last night that is how Purdue beat Ohio State. They did it the exact same way the Cards beat the Vikings. Took away their strength (Dline pass rush) by playing out of shotgun and running quick passes. That is what Purdue is built for, and Oregon can't run like that.
At least you realize the Buckeyes are bad. For us Duck fans it seemed like the season was lost after the first game and look where we are now, the easiest match-up in the Bowl series. It takes alot more heart to be rooting for a team that regularly loses than one that doesn't. Must suck to be stuck in Cleveland.
This is sweet! I start a thread about the Ducks and now the Bucks fans are arguing about how bad they are!
yeah we get upset when we lose 2 games a season or don't blow everyone out. Much different than what Oregon fans expect from their teams
But if anyone watched the Cardinals/Vikings game last night that is how Purdue beat Ohio State. They did it the exact same way the Cards beat the Vikings. Took away their strength (Dline pass rush) by playing out of shotgun and running quick passes. That is what Purdue is built for, and Oregon can't run like that.
At least you realize the Buckeyes are bad. For us Duck fans it seemed like the season was lost after the first game and look where we are now, the easiest match-up in the Bowl series. It takes alot more heart to be rooting for a team that regularly loses than one that doesn't. Must suck to be stuck in Cleveland.
if any city knows what it's like to root for a team that regularly loses, it's cleveland.
For as much as I hate OSU and was hoping for their demise, a part of me does like seeing them win for the fact that I like seeing a team represent the Big Ten.
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ahhh the memories....looks like OSU can mount a passing attack.
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You may want to switch teams if you think Ohio State is going to bring in a system where they throw it 50 times a game.
and why should Ohio State switch to that? They can run against Oregon. Tressel is conservative, but if you play the game the way you need to (blocking and no turnovers), you can win in any conference. Do you ever watch Alabama? They play at 3 today, watch them. They run a system that is similar to Ohio State's and they can hang with any team in the country.
go look at every loss, Ohio State had huge turnovers, and penalties
USC is not a similar opponent. Not this year. USC has been terrible all year, they had a couple of nice early season victories but that's it. There is a reason they finished 6th in the Pac-10.
The only way Ohio St. has a chance is if they win the Turnover battle and convert them into points.
Oregon 44
Ohio State 20
yeah we get upset when we lose 2 games a season or don't blow everyone out. Much different than what Oregon fans expect from their teams
But if anyone watched the Cardinals/Vikings game last night that is how Purdue beat Ohio State. They did it the exact same way the Cards beat the Vikings. Took away their strength (Dline pass rush) by playing out of shotgun and running quick passes. That is what Purdue is built for, and Oregon can't run like that.
if any city knows what it's like to root for a team that regularly loses, it's cleveland.