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RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
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The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time.0 -
RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time. from last year, their % on 3s with this team is even better with Simmons on the court.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2021/02/07/what-makes-ben-simmons-invaluable-to-the-philadelphia-76ers/?sh=7b2f32d2101c
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pjhawks said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time. from last year, their % on 3s with this team is even better with Simmons on the court.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2021/02/07/what-makes-ben-simmons-invaluable-to-the-philadelphia-76ers/?sh=7b2f32d2101c
https://thesixersense.com/2020/03/30/philadelphia-76ers-ben-simmons-best-3-point-manufacturer/Ben is amazing at assisting 3s, no doubt about it. Especially in transition. I love that about him and bring it up all the time when people talk shit on him. Not sure what that has to do with getting Lowry though. I think Ben would still get 90% of those assists with Lowry on the team.0 -
RiotZact said:pjhawks said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time. from last year, their % on 3s with this team is even better with Simmons on the court.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2021/02/07/what-makes-ben-simmons-invaluable-to-the-philadelphia-76ers/?sh=7b2f32d2101c
https://thesixersense.com/2020/03/30/philadelphia-76ers-ben-simmons-best-3-point-manufacturer/Ben is amazing at assisting 3s, no doubt about it. Especially in transition. I love that about him and bring it up all the time when people talk shit on him. Not sure what that has to do with getting Lowry though. I think Ben would still get 90% of those assists with Lowry on the team.0 -
pjhawks said:RiotZact said:pjhawks said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time. from last year, their % on 3s with this team is even better with Simmons on the court.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2021/02/07/what-makes-ben-simmons-invaluable-to-the-philadelphia-76ers/?sh=7b2f32d2101c
https://thesixersense.com/2020/03/30/philadelphia-76ers-ben-simmons-best-3-point-manufacturer/Ben is amazing at assisting 3s, no doubt about it. Especially in transition. I love that about him and bring it up all the time when people talk shit on him. Not sure what that has to do with getting Lowry though. I think Ben would still get 90% of those assists with Lowry on the team.0 -
pjhawks said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time. from last year, their % on 3s with this team is even better with Simmons on the court.
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RiotZact said:pjhawks said:RiotZact said:pjhawks said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time. from last year, their % on 3s with this team is even better with Simmons on the court.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2021/02/07/what-makes-ben-simmons-invaluable-to-the-philadelphia-76ers/?sh=7b2f32d2101c
https://thesixersense.com/2020/03/30/philadelphia-76ers-ben-simmons-best-3-point-manufacturer/Ben is amazing at assisting 3s, no doubt about it. Especially in transition. I love that about him and bring it up all the time when people talk shit on him. Not sure what that has to do with getting Lowry though. I think Ben would still get 90% of those assists with Lowry on the team.
This is where Ben's inability to shoot a basketball outside of 3-6 feet rears it's ugly head again.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:RiotZact said:pjhawks said:RiotZact said:pjhawks said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:RiotZact said:Some reports are saying that Lowry is available. I think Morey has to do just about whatever it would take to get him. He fits too perfectly with this roster. Most people are debating what it would take, on top of Danny Green and Mike Scott as salary fillers, to get it done. Some say it would take Maxey, other say Thybulle would be enough. And likely a first round pick as well. Giving up Maxey would hurt (as would Thybulle to an extent) but I think you have to do it if it’s on the table.
As a Nova fan I love Lowry, but I'm not sure I agree with the fit. If you take the ball out of Ben's hands his inability to shoot becomes an even greater problem.I think the 3/4 thing is overblown. Call Ben the 3 if it makes you feel better, but I really don’t think it changes what they actually do on the court.
If they're gonna make a trade, I think a shooting guard would be a better fit.If you get someone like Beal, he’s going to be bringing the ball down in those situations anyway, just like Jimmy did, and just like this season Tobi, Shake, and Seth have in crunch time. from last year, their % on 3s with this team is even better with Simmons on the court.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryantoporek/2021/02/07/what-makes-ben-simmons-invaluable-to-the-philadelphia-76ers/?sh=7b2f32d2101c
https://thesixersense.com/2020/03/30/philadelphia-76ers-ben-simmons-best-3-point-manufacturer/Ben is amazing at assisting 3s, no doubt about it. Especially in transition. I love that about him and bring it up all the time when people talk shit on him. Not sure what that has to do with getting Lowry though. I think Ben would still get 90% of those assists with Lowry on the team.
This is where Ben's inability to shoot a basketball outside of 3-6 feet rears it's ugly head again.0 -
How about getting Lowry and Beal in exchange for Simmons? lol....ton to give up here. But fun to look at rumors
https://thesixersense.com/2021/01/29/philadelphia-76ers-trade-bradley-beal-kyle-lowry/- PHI gets: Kyle Lowry, Bradley Beal
- TOR gets: Tyrese Maxey, Matisse Thybulle, Mike Scott, Davis Bertans
- WAS gets: Ben Simmons, Danny Green, 2021 first-round pick (unprotected via PHI), 2023 first round pick (unprotected via PHI), 2022 lottery-protected first-round pick (via TOR), swap rights with Philadelphia for 2024 first-round pick
Philadelphia 76ers
Let’s start on what Philadelphia gives up.
Two first round picks, one future swap aren’t nothing. Maxey and Thybulle were late first round picks.
Speaking of the players, Maxey appears to be a dynamic scoring guard. He would be a tough young player to let go, and yet he could have been drafted 20th overall and this wouldn’t be discussed. It shouldn’t cause Morey to freeze now.
Matisse Thybulle is one of the best defensive guards in the league and causes a smothering pairing with Ben Simmons. Yet this combo doesn’t yield results as their two-man lineup ranks near the bottom of duo’s involving Simmons, per NBA.com and Doc Rivers has already relegated Thybulle’s minutes typically leaving him behind Milton and Maxey. For all his prowess on the defensive end he isn’t a perfect fit with Joel Embiid, either. Ultimately, his skill will be less missed than his fame off the court.
Danny Green… He has somehow earned a less than deserving reputation despite being the only back-to-back champion in the NBA. Again, though; changes nothing. He is on the final year of his deal and might not be on the court in the final minutes of playoff games.
Scott serves as cash fodder. His presence will be missed in that he was a somewhat bigger body who could spread the floor. He should be easily replaced via buyout and minimum free agents.
The biggest piece is Ben Simmons. Philadelphia fans don’t need to be reminded of his potential.
Problem is that despite his potential, he hasn’t proven capable late in games. Last year, Simmons averaged less than three points per fourth quarter and muddies the lane for Embiid. Come playoffs, late in game, the floor will congest, and Philadelphia can’t spend another playoff waiting to see where/what Simmons role is. That question had to have some semblance of direction by now.
Philadelphia knows it will be giving up a lot in a 24 year-old all-star, two recent first-rounders, future picks, etc., but putting together a contender doesn’t come cheap. Championships are built on talent and how that talent comes together.
So, let’s focus on what would be coming together.
Bradley Beal and Kyle Lowry.
We’ve touched on it lightly, but Beal’s numbers speak for themselves. He is currently averaging roughly 35 points, five rebounds, and five assists. His creation, his floor spacing, his off-ball playmaking would all be showcased alongside Embiid creating a modern day rendition of Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler.
Beal has been clamoring to play for a winner. He would get his chance in Philadelphia.
In addition, Kyle Lowry gets to return home while competing for an NBA championship. We mentioned how some Toronto fans might never forgive a Lowry trade, but many will understand they’re not winning, they get a great haul, and send their hero back to his original hometown. He would provide proven, veteran leadership while handling lead guard defensive duties, spreading the floor, and dictating the tempo.
Ultimately, this package is similar to the one Houston apparently wanted from Philadelphia. They asked for three first rounders, Maxey, Thybulle, and Simmons. I praised Morey for saying no. This trade adds Green and moves one pick to a swap. That’s a better position for Philadelphia. It doesn’t return Harden, but it does bring in more production with two guards who have combined for 53 points, 11 rebounds, and 11 assists per game while bringing star power and increased motivation.
Philadelphia would instantaneously be threats to the Brooklyn Nets and Milwaukee Bucks as they make a second attempt at a four star group this time headlined by Embiid and all-star shooting.
Moving forward, Washington enters their rebuild with draft capital and a 24-year old, perennial all-star. Toronto gets real assets in exchange for a final couple games with Lowry, and Philadelphia gets stars and shooting to give Embiid a real chance to show his dominance.
It’s a win-win-win. (Michael scott gif).
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That starting lineup would be unreal! It would be a lot to give up but I think you do it. If it doesn’t work out right away then it seems like a lot to give up, but even if Lowry ends up being wasted it’s not like Morey would be screwed. You still have Embiid and Beal to build around.0
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RiotZact said:That starting lineup would be unreal! It would be a lot to give up but I think you do it. If it doesn’t work out right away then it seems like a lot to give up, but even if Lowry ends up being wasted it’s not like Morey would be screwed. You still have Embiid and Beal to build around.
Of smaller moves, I saw some JJ Redick rumors recently. He's having a horrible year, but wouldn't mind him off the bench for some instant offense. Maybe coming back here might rejuvenate him for a few months. Wouldn't want to give up much though. Could be a buyout type candidate...www.myspace.com0 -
Aggressive Ben Simmons needs to be on the court every night. Hell of a start
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Nice win! The combo of Ben and Matisse in the 4th is so stifling on D. Fox couldn’t do shit on Matisse. I like the nickname “The Great Barrier Thieves” for the two of them.I was a little concerned with how gassed Joel looked right out of the gate. I’m sure flights suck and all but I would think multiple days of rest would be enough too not look completely depleted at the start of a game. Each of these road games only has one day in between, so it’s not going to get any easier.0
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Yeah Embiid had one of his worst games of the season last night but he still finished with 25, 17 and 6. 13 of 14 from the line!
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The Juggler said:Yeah Embiid had one of his worst games of the season last night but he still finished with 25, 17 and 6. 13 of 14 from the line!
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RiotZact said:The Juggler said:Yeah Embiid had one of his worst games of the season last night but he still finished with 25, 17 and 6. 13 of 14 from the line!
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The Juggler said:RiotZact said:The Juggler said:Yeah Embiid had one of his worst games of the season last night but he still finished with 25, 17 and 6. 13 of 14 from the line!
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Aggressive Ben is back!www.myspace.com0
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I stayed up until 1:00 am just so they could not even impound the ball at the end?0
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