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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer said:

    The Juggler said:

    The Fixer said:

    JK_Livin said:

    NEITHER CAN SHOOT. 2ND AND 3RD WORST JUMP SHOOTERS IN THE LEAGUE

    somehow they will both end up on a larry brown coached team

    i gotta ask, what exactly is your problem with larry brown? he is literally one of the greatest coaches of basketball to ever walk this earth. you know, the whole "only coach in history to win an nba and ncaa championship,"--that's kind of a huge deal. he was a bad talent evaluator, sure, but as a coach, there are few who were ever better than him. hell he's got sm fucking u in the tournament this year after mudiaya bailed and went to china.

    i don't get the hate at all. never heard anyone rip him as a coach until you.
    he's one of the biggest crybabies in sports. don't think he's ever honored the life of any contract he's ever signed. but my biggest issue is how he railroaded the sixers...saw how his moves dragged down the franchise so he left with multiple years on his contract rather than going down with the ship he was captaining. I can't respect someone like that.

    so in short, I think he's a selfish turd. I was not an iverson fan, but I think he was the more mature of the two of them.

    screw larry brown
    Yeah I hated the way he left and he was always a bad gm but that in no way shape or form takes anything away from how great of a coach he was and still is. I feel like your comments always seem to knock his coaching abilities which is absurd to me.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Juggler said:

    The Fixer said:

    The Juggler said:

    The Fixer said:

    JK_Livin said:

    NEITHER CAN SHOOT. 2ND AND 3RD WORST JUMP SHOOTERS IN THE LEAGUE

    somehow they will both end up on a larry brown coached team

    i gotta ask, what exactly is your problem with larry brown? he is literally one of the greatest coaches of basketball to ever walk this earth. you know, the whole "only coach in history to win an nba and ncaa championship,"--that's kind of a huge deal. he was a bad talent evaluator, sure, but as a coach, there are few who were ever better than him. hell he's got sm fucking u in the tournament this year after mudiaya bailed and went to china.

    i don't get the hate at all. never heard anyone rip him as a coach until you.
    he's one of the biggest crybabies in sports. don't think he's ever honored the life of any contract he's ever signed. but my biggest issue is how he railroaded the sixers...saw how his moves dragged down the franchise so he left with multiple years on his contract rather than going down with the ship he was captaining. I can't respect someone like that.

    so in short, I think he's a selfish turd. I was not an iverson fan, but I think he was the more mature of the two of them.

    screw larry brown
    Yeah I hated the way he left and he was always a bad gm but that in no way shape or form takes anything away from how great of a coach he was and still is. I feel like your comments always seem to knock his coaching abilities which is absurd to me.
    Never said anything about his coaching. He's just a whiny bitch. Sixers fans are blinded by 2001...he walked away from a car crash and everyone loves him for going to the finals. Ah, philly fans...not the brightest bulbs.

    He's the guy who starts a bar fight then crawls to his car when punches are thrown
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    I'm not blinded by 2001 at all. Quite the opposite, actually. I'm taking his entire 40 year plus coaching career into consideration. You seem to be the one blinded by how he left the Sixers. I got over that years ago.

    The job he's done at SMU is pretty remarkable. Especially considering how old he is and how he's still able to relate to these teenagers. That program was in the gutter for 2 decades before he got there.
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  • The Fixer
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    I just don't understand why he's so loved in philly. He screwed us over!! People don't talk about how john stevens took an 8 seed to the stanley cup finals (and won 2 games vs browns 1).

    The larry brown love in philly is confusing. I don't understand

    I couldn't care less about SMU. Or kansas. Or ucla
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited February 2015
    The Fixer said:

    I just don't understand why he's so loved in philly. He screwed us over!! People don't talk about how john stevens took an 8 seed to the stanley cup finals (and won 2 games vs browns 1).

    The larry brown love in philly is confusing. I don't understand

    I couldn't care less about SMU. Or kansas. Or ucla

    I don't love him. I've just always thought he was a great coach even before he came here. I actually think the majority of people still have animosity towards him like you do.
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  • The Fixer
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    The Juggler said:

    The Fixer said:

    I just don't understand why he's so loved in philly. He screwed us over!! People don't talk about how john stevens took an 8 seed to the stanley cup finals (and won 2 games vs browns 1).

    The larry brown love in philly is confusing. I don't understand

    I couldn't care less about SMU. Or kansas. Or ucla

    I don't love him. I've just always thought he was a great coach even before he came here. I actually think the majority of people still have animosity towards him like you do.
    I disagree. I think people love him for 2001, which doesn't make sense to me. But whatever.

    I haven't watched any non-towson hoops this year (a few wisconsin games because I love that team...and I did catch the end of unc/duke this week). Who are your top 5 in the draft? and who do you think is the ideal pick for the sixers? From what i have read it seems like the top 5 consensus (in varying orders) is...

    okafor
    mudiay
    russell
    towns
    I have seen a bunch of guys in the 5-10 spots. chad ford loves the 6'11 foreign guy
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    You Sixers fans actually like Hinkie????

    Most non-Sixers fans view him as the retarded version of Gary Bettman. You do understand he will fuck up whatever good he did yesterday within 9 months, right?

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  • The Juggler
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    I'd put Stanley Johnson 5th after those guys.

    At this point my best case scenario would be taking Russell with the first pick and then Johnson with the Lakers pick. (But of course it's the NBA so the fucking Lakers will magically wind up with not only a top 5 pick but 1st overall...a guy can dream though)

    Lottery night is going to be excruciating. I can't wait!
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  • The Fixer
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    Jason P said:

    You Sixers fans actually like Hinkie????

    Most non-Sixers fans view him as the retarded version of Gary Bettman. You do understand he will fuck up whatever good he did yesterday within 9 months, right?

    You're doomed! Doomed, I say!

    most non-sixers fans don't know what they're talking about. fact that you're comparing an nba gm to an nhl commissioner proves that.

    thanks for stopping by
  • The Fixer
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    The Juggler said:

    I'd put Stanley Johnson 5th after those guys.

    At this point my best case scenario would be taking Russell with the first pick and then Johnson with the Lakers pick. (But of course it's the NBA so the fucking Lakers will magically wind up with not only a top 5 pick but 1st overall...a guy can dream though)

    Lottery night is going to be excruciating. I can't wait!

    Yeah, I have heard his name a lot too.

    Sixers competing with Lakers and Knicks in the lottery. Combine that with the fact that the NBA tried to change the lottery because of the sixers, and yeah, probably not the best scenario.

    I'm fine if they don't win the lottery. Seems like 2-3 would be great...and 4-5 wouldn't be the end of the world. And I actually think it's better if they get the Lakers pick next year (chances of them using all four first rounders in same draft is slim...they'd be trading one of them away anyway).

    Go Thunder...that's the team we need to keep winning.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    The Fixer said:

    Jason P said:

    You Sixers fans actually like Hinkie????

    Most non-Sixers fans view him as the retarded version of Gary Bettman. You do understand he will fuck up whatever good he did yesterday within 9 months, right?

    You're doomed! Doomed, I say!

    most non-sixers fans don't know what they're talking about. fact that you're comparing an nba gm to an nhl commissioner proves that.

    thanks for stopping by
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jason P said:

    The Fixer said:

    Jason P said:

    You Sixers fans actually like Hinkie????

    Most non-Sixers fans view him as the retarded version of Gary Bettman. You do understand he will fuck up whatever good he did yesterday within 9 months, right?

    You're doomed! Doomed, I say!

    most non-sixers fans don't know what they're talking about. fact that you're comparing an nba gm to an nhl commissioner proves that.

    thanks for stopping by
    Foolish me. I didn't realize he was so successful.
    further proving my point by judging a GM who's been on the job for less than two years. stay hot
  • The Juggler
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    Yeah but there's a good chance the Lakers get a lot better next year with Randle healthy, a top pick this year, Kobe back, and whatever other moves they make. So that pick could be mid teens next year.

    Just have to wait till the ping pong balls are picked...
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  • JK_Livin
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    You think Kobe has anything left?
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  • The Fixer
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    The Juggler said:

    Yeah but there's a good chance the Lakers get a lot better next year with Randle healthy, a top pick this year, Kobe back, and whatever other moves they make. So that pick could be mid teens next year.

    Just have to wait till the ping pong balls are picked...

    True. Even so, they would have two picks in the top 15 or so next year. Ideally the lakers finish outside of the top 5 and sixers get two top 10 picks this year, but I think that's a long shot.

    I might have to get a season ticket package next year. The future is bright

    Just look at this....two years ago the incoming/outgoing graph looked like the complete opposite. Hinkie is a genius...he's completely turned this thing around in less than two years, which is nothing short of amazing.

    http://www.sixerswiki.com/wiki/Future_Draft_Picks
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer said:

    The Juggler said:

    Yeah but there's a good chance the Lakers get a lot better next year with Randle healthy, a top pick this year, Kobe back, and whatever other moves they make. So that pick could be mid teens next year.

    Just have to wait till the ping pong balls are picked...

    True. Even so, they would have two picks in the top 15 or so next year. Ideally the lakers finish outside of the top 5 and sixers get two top 10 picks this year, but I think that's a long shot.

    I might have to get a season ticket package next year. The future is bright

    Just look at this....two years ago the incoming/outgoing graph looked like the complete opposite. Hinkie is a genius...he's completely turned this thing around in less than two years, which is nothing short of amazing.

    http://www.sixerswiki.com/wiki/Future_Draft_Picks
    Well there is no guarantee it will work but he is certainly giving them as many chances as possible to land that franchise defining super star player.

    Wish we can fast forward to June
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  • pjhawks
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    The Fixer said:

    pjhawks said:

    what's the point of continuing to get draft picks if you are going to just trade the guys you draft anyway? at some point you actually have to play the guys you draft right? can't wait until they draft another big guy this year. guess next year is another terrible season to look forward to.

    ever think that the picks you acquire could result in better players than the players you trade away? I love how people act like MCW was chris paul. MCW isn't good. KJ McDaniels was a fun player to have around, but he's nothing special. I love the moves...gets them closer to landing premier talent in the draft
    absolutely you can land better players but at some point you actually have to start the process of building the team that you are going forward with. they basically are now back in the same position they were a year ago. so you've wasted another year. push back competing at a high level from 2021 to 2022 now.

    I also think Hinkie is driving Brett Brown out. Brown has proven he can coach. he is not going to stay here with the continual roster turn-around he has put up with this year. he can't be a happy camper today. he has 2 years oh his deal after this year. we shall see.

    Larry Brown is whiny sniveling back-stabbing sob...but all he does is win. everywhere he has been wins.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    I think Brown is on board with Hinkie.
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  • The Fixer
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    pjhawks said:

    The Fixer said:

    pjhawks said:

    what's the point of continuing to get draft picks if you are going to just trade the guys you draft anyway? at some point you actually have to play the guys you draft right? can't wait until they draft another big guy this year. guess next year is another terrible season to look forward to.

    ever think that the picks you acquire could result in better players than the players you trade away? I love how people act like MCW was chris paul. MCW isn't good. KJ McDaniels was a fun player to have around, but he's nothing special. I love the moves...gets them closer to landing premier talent in the draft
    absolutely you can land better players but at some point you actually have to start the process of building the team that you are going forward with. they basically are now back in the same position they were a year ago. so you've wasted another year. push back competing at a high level from 2021 to 2022 now.

    .
    This is ridiculous. Far better shape than they were last year.

    They got rid of two guys who each shot 40% from the field. People need to stop acting like they traded away anything they're going to miss. Yesterday's trades were the correct moves.
  • The Fixer
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    some random stuff from yesterday's moves...

    espn insider

    Winners

    Philadelphia 76ers
    This was simply Business 101 for the Philadelphia 76ers. The 76ers took Michael Carter-Williams, the 11th pick in a weak 2013 NBA draft, boosted his trade value by playing at an outrageous pace and letting him play through mistakes, then flipped him for a likely high lottery pick in a potentially stronger 2015 draft. Carter-Williams could be a fine player one day, but his numbers are mostly hollow. His minus-1.64 real plus-minus ranks 50th among point guards. Not in the entire NBA. Fiftieth at his position.

    So Sam Hinkie somehow parlayed Carter-Williams into one of the most golden assets in the league, the Lakers' top-five protected 2015 first-rounder via Phoenix. According to ESPN's BPI model, the most likely pick slot that the Lakers generate this season is the sixth pick (17.2 percent chance), in which case the Sixers get it. On top of their own pick. If the Sixers don't get it this season, it moves to the 2016 draft where it is a top-three protected pick. That's a heist for one of the least impactful point guards in the league.

    Trading freak athlete K.J. McDaniels to Houston for Isaiah Canaan and a second-rounder puts a dent in their strong day, but getting that Lakers pick and another first-rounder for taking JaVale McGee's contract (more on this later) trumps that McDaniels blemish easily. Especially if they had no intention of matching McDaniels' salary when he becomes a coveted restricted free agent this summer.

    Losers

    Denver Nuggets
    This is why you don't hastily try to make the playoffs in a loaded Western Conference after losing 2012-13 Executive of the Year Masai Ujiri and 2012-13 Coach of the Year George Karl. Nuggets general manager Tim Connelly tried to make a splash in his first couple of seasons on the job by adding significant long-term payroll in the form of J.J. Hickson, Kenneth Faried and bizarrely trading for multiyear contracts owed to Jameer Nelson, Randy Foye and Arron Afflalo. Just a whole bunch of head-scratching moves that set the franchise back.

    And then the McGee salary dump happened. Shedding the rest of McGee's $12 million is an odd priority in the first place, considering he is still 29 and can help bolster their frontcourt depth if healthy. At worst, he sits on the bench, doesn't play and seeks a buyout. Instead, the Nuggets panicked and sent a first-rounder to Philly to take him off their hands.

    The 76ers had almost no leverage in these talks and they pried out a prized asset from the Nuggets. A second-rounder wouldn't do? Hinkie ran circles around Connelly in this one. Sure, the Nuggets netted a similar first-round pick for Afflalo, but I'd rather have intriguing 22-year-old Evan Fournier, whom the Nuggets traded to Orlando to take on Afflalo's contract this summer. Maybe getting rid of the McGee contract was a mandate from ownership, but I still don't know who the Nuggets are trying to be.


    Then I saw this line in another article, which I thought was great...

    Hinkie would sign a dude from ISIS as long as he came with draft picks.

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