LOST- 6th and Final Season (NO SPOILERS)

Red_Dot

I was a bit disappointed. I too found negatives and positives. I‘m one of the mystery fans, and they didn’t explain much of that at all. For me, the mystery made the show, it’s what kept me watching.
Really I liked the final up until they explained the sideways world people were dead. I thought that was pretty lame and not clever at all.

My only complaint is they left out the only thing I wanted and though needed to be explained, which was ‘The Others’. Im happy for them not to answer everything, but for me the best part of the show and the mystery were ‘the Others’. We didn’t learn shit about Widmore and Elouise, why they couldn’t have babies on the Island, why they stole the kids, why they dressed up all dirty and tattered. What about the black ash around the temple and ‘Jacob’s’ cabin? That for me was the biggest mistake, why have all these events in the story at all?
I can live without knowing the exact history of the Island and what happened after Hurley was the protector and Kate and everyone went home, but I thought ‘The Others’ questions definitely should have been answered, especially because The Others were just as big a part of the show as the Losties.
I agree with whoever said, I can deal with being told 90% and leaving 10% to our own beliefs, but I feel here, they only gave us 50% of the story they worked so hard to make.
I too agree they unnecessarily spent way too much time on the sideways timeline.


So who here still think they were dead the whole time on the Island? I’m sure I read somewhere the writers or directors said that wasn’t the case?
My understanding was everything that happened on the Island was real, and everybody died at some stage, not necessarily on the Island, and then when they were all dead they all met up in ‘purgatory’.
I was quite surprised when I read and heard people saying they thought the whole time since the plane crash everyone was dead.

jervin007

I thought it was funny how Ben was trapped under the tree and it looked liked he was screwed. Then suddenly he was on the cliff with Kate, Sawyer and Hurley after the Jack/Locke fight.

And what was the deal with Jack bleeding in the neck (in the flash sideways) when Locke cut him with the knife?

jackrabbit slim

More answers to come my friends!! I just read this on E! online (link to the article at the bottom)

Lost Epilogue With Hurley and Ben Revealed!



One more reason to love Michael Emerson: He just spilled the goods on an amazing surprise for any Lost fan planning to buy the final, sixth-season DVD. (And trust me, now all of you will be buying it.)

There will be more Lost. There is more to the story, and we will get to see it! Praise Jacob! Or should we say...Hurley?!

"For those people that want to pony up and buy the complete Lost series, there is a bonus feature," Michael just told our Kevin Pereira of Attack of the Show!, which airs tonight at 7 on E!'s brother network G4. "Which is um, you could call it an epilogue. A lost scene. It's a lot; it's 12 or 14 minutes that opens a window onto that gap of unknown time between Hurley (Jorge Garcia) becoming number one and the end of the series."

Michael says this extra footage is not the premise for a spinoff. "It's self-contained. Although, it's a rich period in the show's mythology that ‘s never been explored, so who knows what will come of it."

That said, as I reported earlier, we'll find out what happens to Walt on the DVD as well. And so for the last time ever (sniff!), I think I get to say, Lost spoiler alert! Whatcha wanna bet that during Hurley and Ben's adventures on the island, they run into Walt a few years into the future, when he's oh, 18 and looking just as Malcolm David Kelley looks now?

Oh, genius show, I love you. Why must you make it so hard to let go? Just as we're trying to say good-bye, you dangle this most excellent carrot!

See all you fellow fans in the overnight campout line for the Lost season-six DVD.

In the meantime, don't miss my Idiot's Guide to Lost that just posted if you still have questions. It might clear things up!

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Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_w ... z0p5NBapd8

Red_Dot

jervin007 wrote:

I thought it was funny how Ben was trapped under the tree and it looked liked he was screwed. Then suddenly he was on the cliff with Kate, Sawyer and Hurley after the Jack/Locke fight.

And what was the deal with Jack bleeding in the neck (in the flash sideways) when Locke cut him with the knife?

Yeah I guess that was one of the bits they had to edit out to make it fit in the time slot.

I’m still curious to know if people think they were all dead the whole time on the island? And what made you think that?
A few people at my work did (mainly people who barely ever watched the show) and I thought it was really interesting, because it never crossed my mind. I thought Christian explained it pretty well that it was only the sideways timeline where they were dead. And they all realized in the sideways timeline at the end that they had all been on the island before, and were now dead, and meeting up as a sort of ‘closure’. But maybe I was wrong, I’d love to hear other peoples ideas?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Red_Dot wrote:

jervin007 wrote:

I thought it was funny how Ben was trapped under the tree and it looked liked he was screwed. Then suddenly he was on the cliff with Kate, Sawyer and Hurley after the Jack/Locke fight.

And what was the deal with Jack bleeding in the neck (in the flash sideways) when Locke cut him with the knife?

Yeah I guess that was one of the bits they had to edit out to make it fit in the time slot.

I’m still curious to know if people think they were all dead the whole time on the island? And what made you think that?
A few people at my work did (mainly people who barely ever watched the show) and I thought it was really interesting, because it never crossed my mind. I thought Christian explained it pretty well that it was only the sideways timeline where they were dead. And they all realized in the sideways timeline at the end that they had all been on the island before, and were now dead, and meeting up as a sort of ‘closure’. But maybe I was wrong, I’d love to hear other peoples ideas?

they were not all dead on the island. everything that happened on the island (and even off the island before the Oceanic 6 went back) was real. Christian said so.

rrivers

jackrabbit slim wrote:

More answers to come my friends!! I just read this on E! online (link to the article at the bottom)

Lost Epilogue With Hurley and Ben Revealed!

a.) Yeah because there was nothing in the finale that could have been cut out to include this. The concert was very vital.

b.) This epilogue won't answer anything, but if it does, I hope it's riveting answers like there's a light cave with a plug!

Red_Dot

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Red_Dot wrote:

jervin007 wrote:

I thought it was funny how Ben was trapped under the tree and it looked liked he was screwed. Then suddenly he was on the cliff with Kate, Sawyer and Hurley after the Jack/Locke fight.

And what was the deal with Jack bleeding in the neck (in the flash sideways) when Locke cut him with the knife?

Yeah I guess that was one of the bits they had to edit out to make it fit in the time slot.

I’m still curious to know if people think they were all dead the whole time on the island? And what made you think that?
A few people at my work did (mainly people who barely ever watched the show) and I thought it was really interesting, because it never crossed my mind. I thought Christian explained it pretty well that it was only the sideways timeline where they were dead. And they all realized in the sideways timeline at the end that they had all been on the island before, and were now dead, and meeting up as a sort of ‘closure’. But maybe I was wrong, I’d love to hear other peoples ideas?

they were not all dead on the island. everything that happened on the island (and even off the island before the Oceanic 6 went back) was real. Christian said so.

Yeah that’s what I thought, but then people started saying they were dead the whole time on the Island. I definitely did not get that impression and was wondering if there was anyone who still thought that.
I think I definitely need to see the part where Christian speaks again, the whole time I was kind of like “What……oh my God…really”? and didn’t take it all in.

LikeAnOcean

So, I'm re-watching season 1, and can't for the life of me remember what happened to the other surviving passengers.. weren't there like 50 something of them???

When the island stopped jumping them through time, was it long after they died? And if so, you gotta wonder what year Sawyer, Kate and Claire flew back to in the end.

goldrush

I kinda enjoyed the ending and I'm quite happy for them to leave some things unexplained, the endless debating of what something may or may not mean is part of the fun after all (like when people have their own take on song lyrics). I would have been more disappointed if they had come up with really lame explanations for the various mysteries. However, I think the moving the island and time travel storylines were too far fetched and we could have done wiithout them add they didn't add anything significant to the plot.

I think, overall, Lost has been one of the best tv shows in recent years. Certainly not The Best Ever (The Sopranos is pretty untouchable in my opinion) but definitely up there with some of the better shows.

Red_Dot

pjsteelerfan wrote:

An interestig take on the show
http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19342&start=0

Some of it is a little off, but an interesting opinion

This was a great article, and helped me understand and clear a lot of things up. I recommend reading it.
Thanks for posting!

Pepe Silvia

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Johnny Sitar wrote:

why was Claire's Aaron still a baby in the church? He didn't die as a baby. Or did they all just transform back into their Lost age when they went to limbo, since none of them actually seemed to age.

It was the reality they made up for eachother.. Claire's son was not from that important time in her life, therefore he remained a baby.

would claire really wanna be there at all?? she went fucking crazy on the island... whats so special about that?... you gotta think that motherhood was better... or whatever her life was post-island

same might be said for any of the ones that got off the island... pretty sad if the rest of their lives were that uneventful / void of special people to spend eternity with

the alt timeline was supposed to be starting from the return from sydney, so claire was still pregnant then, jin and sun didn't speak english or have had the baby yet....

Pepe Silvia

Red_Dot wrote:

Yeah that’s what I thought, but then people started saying they were dead the whole time on the Island. I definitely did not get that impression and was wondering if there was anyone who still thought that.
I think I definitely need to see the part where Christian speaks again, the whole time I was kind of like “What……oh my God…really”? and didn’t take it all in.

i think part of it came from when they were trying to convince jack to come on the plane with them saying he'd die if he stayed and he said "i'm already dead" i took it to mean because of his stab wound by the time they landed somewhere with a hospital it'd be too late. that's the only thing i can think of, i didn't watch the finale until a few days later and had overheard people complaining saying they were all dead the whole time but when i watched it i didn't get that impression at all.

jervin007

I think they were killed at various times. Remember Frogurt being hit by the flamming arrows? I don't think they made it through the time jumps. Could have just left it unexplained though.

I think it was supposed to be 2007 or 2008. They crashed in 04 and despite being multiple seasons the actual span of time which passed before the oceanic 6 got off was months. Tack on the 3 years they spent off the island, plus a short period of time back on the island and there you have it.

Sun, Ben, etc were in present day, so when the a-bomb went off it just knocked the 70's crew back to the present day. I am thinking it was 08. From there only a short period of time passed before the shows ending.

LikeAnOcean wrote:

So, I'm re-watching season 1, and can't for the life of me remember what happened to the other surviving passengers.. weren't there like 50 something of them???

When the island stopped jumping them through time, was it long after they died? And if so, you gotta wonder what year Sawyer, Kate and Claire flew back to in the end.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i think part of it came from when they were trying to convince jack to come on the plane with them saying he'd die if he stayed and he said "i'm already dead" i took it to mean because of his stab wound by the time they landed somewhere with a hospital it'd be too late. that's the only thing i can think of, i didn't watch the finale until a few days later and had overheard people complaining saying they were all dead the whole time but when i watched it i didn't get that impression at all.

yes, when he said "I'm already dead" he meant it as he wouldn't survive his stab wound.

Who Princess

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i think part of it came from when they were trying to convince jack to come on the plane with them saying he'd die if he stayed and he said "i'm already dead" i took it to mean because of his stab wound by the time they landed somewhere with a hospital it'd be too late. that's the only thing i can think of, i didn't watch the finale until a few days later and had overheard people complaining saying they were all dead the whole time but when i watched it i didn't get that impression at all.

yes, when he said "I'm already dead" he meant it as he wouldn't survive his stab wound.

I've read that some people got that impression because ABC decided to show pictures of the crashed Oceanic plane on a deserted beach during the end credits. It wasn't a decision by the show's producers but the network's and apparently wasn't shown everywhere.

Who Princess

LikeAnOcean wrote:

So, I'm re-watching season 1, and can't for the life of me remember what happened to the other surviving passengers.. weren't there like 50 something of them???

When the island stopped jumping them through time, was it long after they died? And if so, you gotta wonder what year Sawyer, Kate and Claire flew back to in the end.

Frogurt and a lot of other red shirts were killed in the flaming arrow attack. Then when they were still jumping through time and landed in the 50s, they met a young Richard Widmore and some of the other Others (ya like that? :P ). As they were trying to get away, I remember a group of still more red shirts walking into some place in the jungle that had been rigged with explosives and that was pretty much the end of all those anonymous characters.

rrivers

whoprincess wrote:

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

yes, when he said "I'm already dead" he meant it as he wouldn't survive his stab wound.

I've read that some people got that impression because ABC decided to show pictures of the crashed Oceanic plane on a deserted beach during the end credits. It wasn't a decision by the show's producers but the network's and apparently wasn't shown everywhere.

I had that thought. What reason would there be to show the crashed plane from ABC's standpoint?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

rrivers wrote:

What reason would there be to show the crashed plane from ABC's standpoint?

here:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-exclusive-abc-sets-the-record-straight-about-the-series-finales-plane-crash-images.html

Divka

rrivers wrote:

a.) Yeah because there was nothing in the finale that could have been cut out to include this. The concert was very vital.

The concert scene was vital! Charlie seeing Claire sitting it the audience was something I really appreciated!

rrivers

Johnny Sitar wrote:

rrivers wrote:

What reason would there be to show the crashed plane from ABC's standpoint?

here:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/05/lost-exclusive-abc-sets-the-record-straight-about-the-series-finales-plane-crash-images.html

There would have been no way to transition from the show to the news without those images. Thank God they put them in!

Just for the record I wasn't arguing that it meant no one survived, just wondering what ABC's thought was. Thanks for the link, Sitar.