LOST- 6th and Final Season (NO SPOILERS)

rrivers

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i missed this tuesday and now abc's player is down so i'm waiting for the torrent to finish downloading but i thought of something the other day....didn't a season end with a shot of some people in antarctica or somewhere like that? was that ever explained?

No, like ten million other things, it wasn not explained.

Who Princess

rrivers wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i missed this tuesday and now abc's player is down so i'm waiting for the torrent to finish downloading but i thought of something the other day....didn't a season end with a shot of some people in antarctica or somewhere like that? was that ever explained?

No, like ten million other things, it wasn not explained.

The 2 guys in Antarctica or wherever called Penny after they got some kind of signal when the hatch computer ran down and the hatch blew up. But it was never explained exactly where they were or how they were monitoring the island.

Pepe Silvia

the wolf wrote:

Black Diamond wrote:

The campfire scene was ridiculous...

It should have been called "Who wants to be the Candidate"
Raise your hand??

Really ? I thought it was cool. Jack has come full circle, he now believes he is there for a reason.

now he wants to stay and think he's there for a reason and locke wants to leave

the wolf

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i missed this tuesday and now abc's player is down so i'm waiting for the torrent to finish downloading but i thought of something the other day....didn't a season end with a shot of some people in antarctica or somewhere like that? was that ever explained?

every episode is on hulu.com for free up until Sunday. i've been going back and watching key episodes.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I seem to have a lot of trouble retaining the old stuff. Most of the stuff mentioned in this thread I don't even recall!

igotid88

'Lost' finale to air at 5am on Monday in the UK to beat piracy and illegal downloading.


http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/news-extra/article/6665/lost-finale-to-air-at-5am-on-monday.html

michelleelise

I've also apparently forgotten a lot of things from the first few seasons :?

I have to re-watch more of the time-travel episodes when Faraday discussed resetting the timeline. Because I really don't understand the alt universe. Here's the thing, either multiple universes exist or they don't. According to this TV show, they do So I don't understand why this small handful of people would be the only ones having flashes between universes. I mean, I realize some of the people in the alt-universe don't have counterparts in the main universe (like Jack's son), but wouldn't everyone who does have a counterpart be having these same flashes to their main-universe selves? I feel like I must've missed a very important explanation from Faraday somewhere along the way...

Also, why is alt-Jack's neck bleeding? Isn't it the 2nd time that's happened (the first time having been in the airplane bathroom, I think?)

Hugh Freaking Dillon

michelle822 wrote:

Also, why is alt-Jack's neck bleeding? Isn't it the 2nd time that's happened (the first time having been in the airplane bathroom, I think?)

yes, I don't know why that is either.

Who Princess

michelle822 wrote:

Also, why is alt-Jack's neck bleeding? Isn't it the 2nd time that's happened (the first time having been in the airplane bathroom, I think?)

Maybe Kate gave him a love bite?

I'm thinking that's one of the things we'll find out in the finale.

loadedgun

I'm thinking its one of the million things we will never find out about in the finale.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

loadedgun wrote:

I'm thinking its one of the million things we will never find out about in the finale.

totally agree. this series is going to piss me off to no end I'm guessing. Maybe I should get super high to watch it and then it will all make sense.

FearTheBeard

loadedgun wrote:

I'm thinking its one of the million things we will never find out about in the finale.

I completely agree. I'm really looking forward to having nothing answered on Sunday

Damn this show...
Where did the dog go? What was the point of Nikki and Paulo, really?

FearTheBeard

whoprincess wrote:

rrivers wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

i missed this tuesday and now abc's player is down so i'm waiting for the torrent to finish downloading but i thought of something the other day....didn't a season end with a shot of some people in antarctica or somewhere like that? was that ever explained?

No, like ten million other things, it wasn not explained.

The 2 guys in Antarctica or wherever called Penny after they got some kind of signal when the hatch computer ran down and the hatch blew up. But it was never explained exactly where they were or how they were monitoring the island.

Wasn't Jack one of the scientists? Or someone who looked exactly like him?

Poncier

The guy looked a bit like Jack, but it wasn't him.

Poncier

ucsbflipflop wrote:

loadedgun wrote:

I'm thinking its one of the million things we will never find out about in the finale.

I completely agree. I'm really looking forward to having nothing answered on Sunday

Damn this show...
Where did the dog go? What was the point of Nikki and Paulo, really?

I think Dogen ate Vincent.
And Nikki and Paolo were there to provide Miles with $8million in diamonds to start his new off island life as the corpse whisperer.

loadedgun

Vincent is with Bernard and Rose.

dimitrispearljam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-DShnvN ... r_embedded

rrivers

loadedgun wrote:

I'm thinking its one of the million things we will never find out about in the finale.

You are so right.

rrivers

dimitrispearljam wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-DShnvNNv0&feature=player_embedded

It's science and weird things are happening. It's science.

Who Princess

This commentary seems timely for this thread:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/arts/ ... l?ref=arts

In ‘Lost,’ Mythology Trumps Mystery

As the end of “Lost” approaches — an extravaganza that will stretch from Sunday night into Monday morning on ABC — the natural urge is to join in the final frenzy of speculation. Who will live, who will die, and what did it all mean?
In recent months “Lost” has felt less like a television series than like a gigantic international parlor game, in which the goal is to find answers to questions that often have no real connection to what’s happening on screen. You need to take a step back, or 5 or 10, and look past this extraneous (if diverting) exercise to assess the actual show and its legacy.

Since “Lost” itself favors oracular pronouncements, here’s one more: The show had one good season, its first. It was very, very good — as good as anything on television at the time — but none of the seasons since have approached that level, and the current sixth season, rushed, muddled and dull, has been the weakest.

That’s a typical television trajectory, especially for shows set up as closed-end mysteries. The difference now is that as “Lost” has hit a new creative low, the attention paid to it (if not its ratings) has hit a new high. But that makes sense: there’s an organic connection between the show’s decline and the particular brand of obsessive interest it inspires.

Back in Season 1, as the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 explored the island, “Lost” was a beautifully functioning machine. The mystery was intriguing and had an internal logic (the questions were smart enough that the answers weren’t immediately important); the action was well directed; the actors were attractive; the locations gorgeous; the production values high.

But that model wasn’t sustainable. The elaborate mystery on which the show depended couldn’t be maintained at the same level, and the characters and their relationships had been conceived entirely in terms of that mystery; they had back stories rather than lives. (Television history held some lessons: “The Prisoner” called it quits after 17 episodes; “Twin Peaks” was essentially done after one season. “The X-Files,” an entirely different style of show that in its early years emphasized character development and chemistry in its many free-standing episodes, squeezed out four or five good seasons of its nine.)

To keep the story going, the producers of “Lost” resorted to inflation, adding more plot points and more characters at the cost of coherence. A spooky tale about plane crash survivors on a strange island increasingly became a labored allegory about free will and destiny, individualism and solidarity. Mystery began to give way to mythology.

As “Lost” bogged down and its audience shrank — its ratings in recent weeks have been about two-thirds of what they were in the early seasons — an interesting thing happened: a core of viewers emerged for whom the endless complications, which were ruinous in any traditional dramatic sense, were the basis of a new sort of fandom.

In this sideways universe, making sense of the show became the responsibility, and even the privilege, of the viewers rather than the producers. The compromises and continuity lapses and narrative backing and filling that characterize all broadcast network series became fodder for a kind of populist biblical commentary, and the logical gymnastics performed to read authorial intention into every word and image and in-joke began to feel religious in nature. Every question about the show had to have one true answer, and discerning it — or asserting your version of it the loudest — wasn’t the stuff of water cooler chatter, it was blood sport.

And this new proprietary “Lost” obsession grew symbiotically with things like mainstream entertainment blogs (and their comments sections) and Twitter, until now there is a vast body of shared commentary and speculation that often seems to overshadow the show itself. Why bother writing fan fiction when you can feel as if you had a hand in the real thing?

It’s clear that the rise of “Lost” geekdom has encouraged fans, and critics who should know better, to celebrate the mythology — the least important element of the show, from a dramatic standpoint — while glossing over things like pacing, structure, camerawork and acting. (With a few exceptions, notably Terry O’Quinn, as Locke, and Henry Ian Cusick, as Desmond, the performances have been undistinguished since the first season, which may have as much to do with the conception of the characters as with the actors themselves.)

And while we can’t know what’s in the minds of the executive producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, they’ve devoted a lot of screen time in Season 6 to providing the fans with answers (when they haven’t been introducing new questions). Some fans, though, might have been happy to make do with fewer answers if it meant they could have a simpler, easier to follow, more exciting final season.

In fact, the scenes set in Los Angeles in the alternate timeline Mr. Cuse and Mr. Lindelof concocted for this season — blasted by the commentariat because they haven’t yet yielded up their secrets — have been more stylish and interesting to watch than the island scenes that have focused on resolving the outstanding plot points.

Among the best evidence that something new is happening with “Lost” is the fact that so many people, if their online comments are true, will be willing to change their judgment of the entire series based solely on how well the final two-and-a-half-hour episode satisfies their need for answers. Forget the first 119 hours — if you don’t tell me what happened to Walt, none of it will have mattered.

Similarly revealing is the carping over whether Mr. Cuse and Mr. Lindelof knew from the start where they were going to take their story. It’s a meaningless question with regard to evaluating the show — all that matters is what they have actually put on screen. But that would mean paying attention to the show itself, rather than your feelings about the show.

The contract between author and audience is being rewritten throughout our culture. Certainly we have always expected the satisfaction of resolution and revelation in our fictional narratives, but we had to let creators provide it on their own terms and then judge the overall result. “Lost” is a sign that that’s not so true anymore, at least with regard to television. Now that the public conversation about how a work should play out can be louder, and have greater impact, than the work itself, the conversation will inevitably begin to shape the work in ways that earlier television producers — or, say, Charles Dickens — never had to reckon with.

“Lost” has turned fans into critics and critics, including this one, into semiprofessional fans, and in both cases you can sense that some exhaustion has set in. The mood among many of the show’s followers as they confront Sunday’s finale seems to be a mixture of regret and relief. Whatever happens to Jack and Kate and Sawyer on Sunday night, we’re getting off the island.

Also, another article from NYT about Damon Lindelhof and Carlton Cuse, too long to quote here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/arts/ ... html?fta=y