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2017 Buffalo Bills - The hunt for a playoff berth

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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    I liked the pick.
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Bills signed Vince Young. :corn:
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,618
    I think it is a great signing.

    Let's face it. If Fitz went down, that was it. V. Young at least gives them a puncher's chance now if that happens.
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    MayDay10 wrote:
    I think it is a great signing.

    Let's face it. If Fitz went down, that was it. V. Young at least gives them a puncher's chance now if that happens.


    I think he's going to really challenge him for the starter's spot.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    DS1119 wrote:
    Is Stevie Johnson the WR that blamed God for letting him drop a game-winning TD pass?
    (A move I respect, BTW :mrgreen: )
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Jason P wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Is Stevie Johnson the WR that blamed God for letting him drop a game-winning TD pass?
    (A move I respect, BTW :mrgreen: )


    Kind of...yes.
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    DURPDURP OhighO Posts: 2,180
    Playoff drought ends this year for the Bills.
    My butt itches!
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    DURP wrote:
    Playoff drought ends this year for the Bills.


    I agree. I just wonder how much of an opportunity Young will be given to earn the starting QB position? They've got money tied up with Fitzpatrick so I think he will just get the job. Not a huge Fitzpatrick fan here but I hope he proves me wrong.
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Nothing prudent. Just wanted to post a picture of The Anchor Bar. :lol:



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    8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    Time to change the thread title to the Toronto Rough Riders.
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    81 wrote:
    Time to change the thread title to the Toronto Rough Riders.


    :nono:
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,618
    I have actually gone to a few CFL games this season.

    Hamilton vs. Saskatchewan and Hamilton vs. Montreal.

    Cool sport. love the 3 downs and the 20 yard end zones with the goalposts on the front (which turn a missed FG into a danger of a TD return against).



    Anyways. Bills vs Vikings tonight. I just cant produce any excitement for preseason NFL. Ugh.
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    MayDay10 wrote:
    I have actually gone to a few CFL games this season.

    Hamilton vs. Saskatchewan and Hamilton vs. Montreal.

    Cool sport. love the 3 downs and the 20 yard end zones with the goalposts on the front (which turn a missed FG into a danger of a TD return against).



    Anyways. Bills vs Vikings tonight. I just cant produce any excitement for preseason NFL. Ugh.


    I usually give it the first quarter just to get a feel but you're right. Preseason footbll is pretty much a snorefest.
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    8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    pre season is good for week 2 and 3 to see what teams look like and to get a feel for depth charts for draft purposes
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Mike and Mike puts the Bills at 8-8 and Hill and Schlereth (sp) puts them at 10-6. I always thought Hill and Schlereth were smarter. :lol:
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,618
    The schedule (as of now) appears to be very favorable.

    Basically have to be better than the Jets and actually win the games against Miami this time.

    New England gets the East (until proven otherwise)
    Baltimore North
    Houston South
    Denver West

    That leaves 2 spots for Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Jets, San Diego, Oakland, and KC.

    Dont think Jax, Miami, Cleveland, Tennessee, or Indy are gonna compete.


    1 Sep 9 @ New York 1:00 PM WIN
    2 Sep 16 vs Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS WIN
    3 Sep 23 @ Cleveland 1:00 PM CBS WIN
    4 Sep 30 vs New England 1:00 PM CBS WIN
    5 Oct 7 @ San Francisco 4:25 PM CBS LOSS
    6 Oct 14 @ Arizona 4:05 PM CBS WIN
    7 Oct 21 vs Tennessee 1:00 PM CBS Tickets WIN
    8 BYE WEEK
    9 Nov 4 @ Houston 1:00 PM CBS LOSS
    10 Nov 11 @ New England 1:00 PM CBS LOSS
    11 Nov 15 vs Miami 8:20 PM NFL WIN
    12 Nov 25 @ Indianapolis 1:00 PM CBS WIN
    13 Dec 2 vs Jacksonville 1:00 PM CBS WIN
    14 Dec 9 vs St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX WIN
    15 Dec 16 vs Seattle 4:05 PM FOX LOSS
    16 Dec 23 @ Miami 1:00 PM CBS LOSS
    17 Dec 30 vs New York 1:00 PM CBS Tickets WIN

    its not too hard to get my mind to 11-5.
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    8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    MayDay10 wrote:
    its not too hard to get my mind to 11-5.

    hope springs eternal

    i think you are bit optimistic.
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    davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    9-7
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    PJFAN13PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-cove ... igpen.html

    DS1119:
    In the words of Caddyshack's Carl: "So I got that goin' for me, which is nice"...
    As a Fins fan (ya, ya, insert you're 'F@#& the Fish here :D) - be glad, cause Thigpen stinks dude...
    11.30.93~10.2.96~9.13.98~9.1.00~8.25.00~7.3.03~7.5.03
    7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
    8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
    11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
    2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    PJFAN13 wrote:
    http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-coverage/2012/08/vince-young-pulling-away-from-tyler-thigpen.html

    DS1119:
    In the words of Caddyshack's Carl: "So I got that goin' for me, which is nice"...
    As a Fins fan (ya, ya, insert you're 'F@#& the Fish here :D) - be glad, cause Thigpen stinks dude...


    Glad he may end up as a thrid stringer then. :?
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Shawne Merriman was released today. :?
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    PJFAN13PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    DS1119 wrote:
    Shawne Merriman was released today. :?
    Be glad DS1119 - completely washed up, hasn't been healthy or a factor in literally 5 years - with your D moving back to a 4-3, and a very healthy set of rushers in Mario Williams and Mark Anderson - he's deemed completely useless...remember, he's strictly a 3-4 guy (and he's not healthy) - 2007 glory days were a LONG time ago...
    Watch NYJ pick him up :lol::lol::lol:
    11.30.93~10.2.96~9.13.98~9.1.00~8.25.00~7.3.03~7.5.03
    7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
    8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
    11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
    2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Very excited about this upcoming season. Defense should be one of the best if not best in the league. Still bewildered about Merriman.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,618
    It isnt surprising at all. He was out with the 3rd and 4th stringers in the Minnesota game.

    The Bills are legitimately deep now and will have to cut some good players. Merriman hasnt hacked it and 4-3 is not a good fit for him at all. He has played 5 games in 2 seasons, and they have healthier, hungrier, and frankly, better OLBs. They probably wanted to get him out early as a sign of good will in order to allow him to try to catch on elsewhere.
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    MayDay10 wrote:
    It isnt surprising at all. He was out with the 3rd and 4th stringers in the Minnesota game.

    The Bills are legitimately deep now and will have to cut some good players. Merriman hasnt hacked it and 4-3 is not a good fit for him at all. He has played 5 games in 2 seasons, and they have healthier, hungrier, and frankly, better OLBs. They probably wanted to get him out early as a sign of good will in order to allow him to try to catch on elsewhere.


    I personally thought he could have flourished in specialized situations but the coaches obviously felt otherwise.
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    PJFAN13PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    DS1119 wrote:
    Defense should be one of the best if not best in the league.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    The defense that let Christian Ponder (he of the 3-13 Vikings) easily march into FG position the first 3 times he touched the ball - against Buffalo's 1's 5 days ago???
    The defense, that for 3 years in a row - ranked last in the NFL, allowing touchdowns 64.4 percent of the time offenses breached their 20-yard line???
    The defense that allowed 19 rushing TD's last year???
    Should be one of the best in the league? The one being led by ex-Dolphin coach Dave Wannstache? Is ex-Phin Nick Barnett still missing tackles on that D also?
    I want what you are smoking my friend!
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Maybe you have figured it all out in the offseason - good luck in the opener w/ the Jets -who have scored touchdowns on 13 of their 18 red-zone trips (72.2 percent) against Buffalo the last two seasons.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Wait, on paper with Mario Williams all of the above changes, right?
    :lol::lol::lol:
    11.30.93~10.2.96~9.13.98~9.1.00~8.25.00~7.3.03~7.5.03
    7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
    8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
    11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
    2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
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    DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    PJFAN13 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Defense should be one of the best if not best in the league.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    The defense that let Christian Ponder (he of the 3-13 Vikings) easily march into FG position the first 3 times he touched the ball - against Buffalo's 1's 5 days ago???
    The defense, that for 3 years in a row - ranked last in the NFL, allowing touchdowns 64.4 percent of the time offenses breached their 20-yard line???
    The defense that allowed 19 rushing TD's last year???
    Should be one of the best in the league? The one being led by ex-Dolphin coach Dave Wannstache? Is ex-Phin Nick Barnett still missing tackles on that D also?
    I want what you are smoking my friend!
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Maybe you have figured it all out in the offseason - good luck in the opener w/ the Jets -who have scored touchdowns on 13 of their 18 red-zone trips (72.2 percent) against Buffalo the last two seasons.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Wait, on paper with Mario Williams all of the above changes, right?
    :lol::lol::lol:

    We shall see. I think a 3 win season for the fish is quite optimisitc at this point actually...while the Bills will be flirting with 10-6 if not better.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,618
    PJFAN13 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Defense should be one of the best if not best in the league.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    The defense that let Christian Ponder (he of the 3-13 Vikings) easily march into FG position the first 3 times he touched the ball - against Buffalo's 1's 5 days ago???
    The defense, that for 3 years in a row - ranked last in the NFL, allowing touchdowns 64.4 percent of the time offenses breached their 20-yard line???
    The defense that allowed 19 rushing TD's last year???
    Should be one of the best in the league? The one being led by ex-Dolphin coach Dave Wannstache? Is ex-Phin Nick Barnett still missing tackles on that D also?
    I want what you are smoking my friend!
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Maybe you have figured it all out in the offseason - good luck in the opener w/ the Jets -who have scored touchdowns on 13 of their 18 red-zone trips (72.2 percent) against Buffalo the last two seasons.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Wait, on paper with Mario Williams all of the above changes, right?
    :lol::lol::lol:

    The D was terrible last season, but marred with injuries and still in transition to what they are now.
    The line of M. Williams, K. Williams, Dareus, and Anderson should be able to get pressure on QBs. Especially with the possibility of Moats blitzing. This will provide a cascade throughout the entire defense. A very good, young Defensive Backfield too with Gilmore, A. Williams, Byrd, and Wilson. Hopefully McKelvin can turn the corner, and McGee would provide some great depth if he can be healthy.

    Match that with the schedule they have. There are a ton of crappy/inexperienced QBs on there... this defense has the potential to be very good.

    I dont think a portion of a preseason game and last season have much validity. Last year, the Bills couldnt even complete a pass in the preseason, it looked like they would go 0-16... and they came out and lit it up the first 5 games.

    But proclaiming the defense as 'one of the best, if not the best' is a little presumptuous. I feel the potential is there, but it is guarded optimism.
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