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When making a plate, can't you just make multiples at the same time?
I wouldn't even know how to google that shit to ask a question and I am sure it'd give Alexa fits.0 -
Mofi Gives a good breakdown when you buy a one step.
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But you have to run the tape every time you need to make a lacquer for a one step. Normal records you would just go back to the mother every time you needed a new stamper.0
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tempo_n_groove said:When making a plate, can't you just make multiples at the same time?
I wouldn't even know how to google that shit to ask a question and I am sure it'd give Alexa fits.
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mrussel1 said:Cropduster-80 said:mrussel1 said:Cropduster-80 said:Doesn’t mofi already do digital? I thought they differentiate by the “silver label” as I assumed those were digital as that’s when the original master tapes aren’t available.
I’m assume they could do a one step from a silver label release. As one step is just how they are pressing it, not the source material I thought
If I'm wrong in my assessment, someone correct me.
And yes, some MOFI is known digital. I brought up the Brothers in Arms which was never recorded to tape, but has been pressed a bunch of times by MOFI.
I haven’t ever seen a mofi release with a production number that high either. Certainly not one step0 -
Also, IDK if people know this but a lacquer is a one and done thing. Once it makes its father/convert, its done and you need to toss it.
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Tim Simmons said:But you have to run the tape every time you need to make a lacquer for a one step. Normal records you would just go back to the mother every time you needed a new stamper.There was an interview with the AP guy who said he’s made one step (before mofi I think) he seems to think it’s not necessary
if that’s the process and it’s got to be hard on the master it seems like a not very sustainable process . Make enough one step records and the tape is shot, no one gets them ever again. Am I interpreting that correctly?Post edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Cropduster-80 said:Tim Simmons said:But you have to run the tape every time you need to make a lacquer for a one step. Normal records you would just go back to the mother every time you needed a new stamper.There was an interview with the AP guy who said he’s made one step (before mofi I think) he seems to think it’s not necessary
if that’s the process and it’s got to be hard on the master it seems like a not very sustainable process0 -
mrussel1 said:Cropduster-80 said:Tim Simmons said:But you have to run the tape every time you need to make a lacquer for a one step. Normal records you would just go back to the mother every time you needed a new stamper.There was an interview with the AP guy who said he’s made one step (before mofi I think) he seems to think it’s not necessary
if that’s the process and it’s got to be hard on the master it seems like a not very sustainable process
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mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:When making a plate, can't you just make multiples at the same time?
I wouldn't even know how to google that shit to ask a question and I am sure it'd give Alexa fits.
I still don't see why you can't make multiple Laquers from the master tapes. It would be like having 10 tape decks recording off of one main source?
Shouldn't it be that easy?
OK so I did google and found this article. It seems that no one knows how to make these contraptions anymore and the ones who know how they ware growing older.
https://thevinylfactory.com/features/apollo-transco-lacquer-impact-vinyl-industry/
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I would bet that 1 to 1 copies of the master tape are made. They run those tapes to cut the lacquers. No way the studios are letting the actual master tape be ran that much. Safety copies have been used for years cutting records.
You could also have a set up to cut multiple lacquers at one time like The Mastering Lab used to do. Run the tape and cut 3 lacquers at once.
But for the newest 1-Step of Thriller being 40,000 copies. Thats 40 lacquers... not sure how they did it... but I can assure you they didn't run the actual master tape 40 times.0 -
MedozK said:I would bet that 1 to 1 copies of the master tape are made. They run those tapes to cut the lacquers. No way the studios are letting the actual master tape be ran that much. Safety copies have been used for years cutting records.
You could also have a set up to cut multiple lacquers at one time like The Mastering Lab used to do. Run the tape and cut 3 lacquers at once.
But for the newest 1-Step of Thriller being 40,000 copies. Thats 40 lacquers... not sure how they did it... but I can assure you they didn't run the actual master tape 40 times.
As someone mentioned the tape being worn out, have you ever seen the Freddie Mercury movie? They show them mixing 100 times on the same tape. Pretty wild.0 -
Cropduster-80 said:mrussel1 said:Cropduster-80 said:Tim Simmons said:But you have to run the tape every time you need to make a lacquer for a one step. Normal records you would just go back to the mother every time you needed a new stamper.There was an interview with the AP guy who said he’s made one step (before mofi I think) he seems to think it’s not necessary
if that’s the process and it’s got to be hard on the master it seems like a not very sustainable process0 -
MedozK said:I would bet that 1 to 1 copies of the master tape are made. They run those tapes to cut the lacquers. No way the studios are letting the actual master tape be ran that much. Safety copies have been used for years cutting records.0
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Tim Simmons said:Cropduster-80 said:mrussel1 said:Cropduster-80 said:Tim Simmons said:But you have to run the tape every time you need to make a lacquer for a one step. Normal records you would just go back to the mother every time you needed a new stamper.There was an interview with the AP guy who said he’s made one step (before mofi I think) he seems to think it’s not necessary
if that’s the process and it’s got to be hard on the master it seems like a not very sustainable process0 -
Tim Simmons said:MedozK said:I would bet that 1 to 1 copies of the master tape are made. They run those tapes to cut the lacquers. No way the studios are letting the actual master tape be ran that much. Safety copies have been used for years cutting records.0
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Yeah, MoFi's copy itself states "a set of lacquers," not a single lacquer.
Unless that copy was recently changed, I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
Reading is hard, I guess.I SAW PEARL JAM0 -
Besides all the interesting information posted here recently, another thing I wonder is, Who- beside the hard working fellow in Japan in his shop who works hard making very limited numbers of them- is making lacquers these day after the Apollo Masters Corporation fire in 2020 that destroyed the ONE plant that made the vast majority of them?
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mrussel1 said:Tim Simmons said:MedozK said:I would bet that 1 to 1 copies of the master tape are made. They run those tapes to cut the lacquers. No way the studios are letting the actual master tape be ran that much. Safety copies have been used for years cutting records.0
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brianlux said:Besides all the interesting information posted here recently, another thing I wonder is, Who- beside that Asian guy in his garage who makes very limited numbers of them- is making lacquers these day after the Apollo Masters Corporation fire in 2020 that destroyed the ONE plant that made the vast majority of them?0
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