The Official New York Yankees Thread

xavier mcdaniel

Interesting to think about is Gerrit Cole's ability to opt out after next season. I mentioned it while watching the game yesterday with someone and Bob Klapisch wrote about it today: https://www.nj.com/yankees/2023/08/yankees-nightmare-continues-what-if-gerrit-cole-decides-hes-had-enough-klapisch.html

igotid88

I think he would have opted out even if we win the World Series next year

xavier mcdaniel

igotid88 said:

I think he would have opted out even if we win the World Series next year

Right, but the main point being would he opt out and leave the Yankees if next year is like this year.

mcgruff10

I still can't believe we are this bad.  Last time they finished last in the AL East was 1990!

1990 New York Yankees: The total mess

During this season, the Yankees had a 67-95 record, which was their lowest moment in the American League and make them the worst Yankees team. Their season was a total mess. In 1990, Jesse Barfield was the best player for the Yankees. But the star outfielder never lived up to the expectations the Yankees had for him.

Don Mattingly had back problems all season, which limited him to just 102 games and gave him the worst stats of his career. The worst Yankees performance in years caused the team owners to fire manager Bucky Dent on June 6. The team was ready to play the Red Sox at Fenway Park when the sacking news was made public.

After a fight with Dave Winfield, owner George Steinbrenner paid a private investigator to find “dirt” on his star player Dave Winfield. MLB Commissioner Fay Vincent put a ban on the Yankees owner. Though he was initially banned for life, it was later reduced. Even worse, Steinbrenner was getting most of his information from a small-time gambler and racketeer named Howard Spira, who used to work for Winfield’s charity foundation.

The 1990 season was the worst in the Yankees’ history and they finished last after 24 years. It was their first last-place finish in the division era and the second most losses after 1912.

https://pinstripesnation.com/3-worst-yankees-teams-of-all-time-2022-11-17/

xavier mcdaniel

I vaguely remember 1990 for the Yankees as I was in fifth/sixth grade. One thing I do remember well is the fans cheering when it was announced Steinbrenner got suspended.

mcgruff10

Yeah those late 80's/early 90's yanks teams were awful.  

Johnny Abruzzo

1966 team - jeez they had just won 5 straight pennants 1960-64. That's some extreme fair-weather fanning.

They were unable to fill the seats, which was a shame. On September 22, 1966, when the New York Yankees played the Chicago White Sox, only 413 people paid to be there. Seeing only 413 people in a stadium that seats 65,000 was very discouraging, and it might have been a good way to describe the whole 1966 season.

Poncier

igotid88 said:

Poncier said:

Maybe he can get elected to the Hall of Fame as a manager then since he wasn't nearly good enough as a player.
is a .430 win pct as a manager HoF worthy?

Good for a rebuilding team. They could've had multiple 100 loss seasons under a different manager.

"Try the veal, don't forget to tip your servers."

You funny man.

He had seasons of 105, 98, 95 and 93 losses. 
Only time finishing above .500 has an asterisk as in a Covid shortened 60 game "season" in 2020, he went 31-29.

xavier mcdaniel

Johnny Abruzzo said:

1966 team - jeez they had just won 5 straight pennants 1960-64. That's some extreme fair-weather fanning.

They were unable to fill the seats, which was a shame. On September 22, 1966, when the New York Yankees played the Chicago White Sox, only 413 people paid to be there. Seeing only 413 people in a stadium that seats 65,000 was very discouraging, and it might have been a good way to describe the whole 1966 season.

It always amazes me how stadiums in New York still get filled with the costs. If you drive to Yankee Stadium, it's 47 in the main garage across the street and 40 to park for a Mets game.

igotid88

Poncier said:

igotid88 said:

Poncier said:

Maybe he can get elected to the Hall of Fame as a manager then since he wasn't nearly good enough as a player.
is a .430 win pct as a manager HoF worthy?

Good for a rebuilding team. They could've had multiple 100 loss seasons under a different manager.

"Try the veal, don't forget to tip your servers."

You funny man.

He had seasons of 105, 98, 95 and 93 losses. 
Only time finishing above .500 has an asterisk as in a Covid shortened 60 game "season" in 2020, he went 31-29.

What part of rebuilding did you not understand? They had no offense

mcgruff10

xavier mcdaniel said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

1966 team - jeez they had just won 5 straight pennants 1960-64. That's some extreme fair-weather fanning.

They were unable to fill the seats, which was a shame. On September 22, 1966, when the New York Yankees played the Chicago White Sox, only 413 people paid to be there. Seeing only 413 people in a stadium that seats 65,000 was very discouraging, and it might have been a good way to describe the whole 1966 season.

It always amazes me how stadiums in New York still get filled with the costs. If you drive to Yankee Stadium, it's 47 in the main garage across the street and 40 to park for a Mets game.

a few weeks ago I brought my son to a Yanks game and couldn't believe that parking was $47! Don't forgot parkway, turnpike and gwb tolls.  It's definitely an expensive stadium to go to.  After that game we agreed to go to one game a year, next year I might take the train in. I just hate driving in the city, not fun.  
They aren't my team but Philly is so easy to get in and out of.  

Johnny Abruzzo

mcgruff10 said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

1966 team - jeez they had just won 5 straight pennants 1960-64. That's some extreme fair-weather fanning.

They were unable to fill the seats, which was a shame. On September 22, 1966, when the New York Yankees played the Chicago White Sox, only 413 people paid to be there. Seeing only 413 people in a stadium that seats 65,000 was very discouraging, and it might have been a good way to describe the whole 1966 season.

It always amazes me how stadiums in New York still get filled with the costs. If you drive to Yankee Stadium, it's 47 in the main garage across the street and 40 to park for a Mets game.

a few weeks ago I brought my son to a Yanks game and couldn't believe that parking was $47! Don't forgot parkway, turnpike and gwb tolls.  It's definitely an expensive stadium to go to.  After that game we agreed to go to one game a year, next year I might take the train in. I just hate driving in the city, not fun.  
They aren't my team but Philly is so easy to get in and out of.  

They charge us $25 for parking and the stadiums are specifically amidst a sea of parking lots. Surprised it's only $47 at Yankee Stadium. But yeah having to drive on the George Washington Bridge would end my desire to go there for sure. Naming that bridge after our first president seems like just punishment for him being a serial enslaver.

igotid88

Tourists

xavier mcdaniel

mcgruff10 said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

1966 team - jeez they had just won 5 straight pennants 1960-64. That's some extreme fair-weather fanning.

They were unable to fill the seats, which was a shame. On September 22, 1966, when the New York Yankees played the Chicago White Sox, only 413 people paid to be there. Seeing only 413 people in a stadium that seats 65,000 was very discouraging, and it might have been a good way to describe the whole 1966 season.

It always amazes me how stadiums in New York still get filled with the costs. If you drive to Yankee Stadium, it's 47 in the main garage across the street and 40 to park for a Mets game.

a few weeks ago I brought my son to a Yanks game and couldn't believe that parking was $47! Don't forgot parkway, turnpike and gwb tolls.  It's definitely an expensive stadium to go to.  After that game we agreed to go to one game a year, next year I might take the train in. I just hate driving in the city, not fun.  
They aren't my team but Philly is so easy to get in and out of.  

I always liked how all the Philadelphia sports venues are in the same place. Years ago, I went to a Phillies day game and splurged for a Flyers playoff game, mostly because I was rooting for Brian Leetch with the Maple Leafs at the time.

mcgruff10

I have no clue if it's our bad luck but does Yankee stadium still have bp?  I remember as a kid getting there early with my glove and waiting in right field for a nice shot.  I actually got a ball opening day 1989 (I still have it).  We've gone to a few games now, went in when gates opened and there is never bp.  

xavier mcdaniel

mcgruff10 said:

I have no clue if it's our bad luck but does Yankee stadium still have bp?  I remember as a kid getting there early with my glove and waiting in right field for a nice shot.  I actually got a ball opening day 1989 (I still have it).  We've gone to a few games now, went in when gates opened and there is never bp.  

The Yankees are typically on the field for about an hour before gates open, so you're likely seeing them wind up batting practice and the visiting team get set up for batting practice.

F Me In The Brain

mcgruff10 said:

I still can't believe we are this bad.  Last time they finished last in the AL East was 1990!

1990 New York Yankees: The total mess

During this season, the Yankees had a 67-95 record, which was their lowest moment in the American League and make them the worst Yankees team. Their season was a total mess. In 1990, Jesse Barfield was the best player for the Yankees. But the star outfielder never lived up to the expectations the Yankees had for him.

Don Mattingly had back problems all season, which limited him to just 102 games and gave him the worst stats of his career. The worst Yankees performance in years caused the team owners to fire manager Bucky Dent on June 6. The team was ready to play the Red Sox at Fenway Park when the sacking news was made public.

After a fight with Dave Winfield, owner George Steinbrenner paid a private investigator to find “dirt” on his star player Dave Winfield. MLB Commissioner Fay Vincent put a ban on the Yankees owner. Though he was initially banned for life, it was later reduced. Even worse, Steinbrenner was getting most of his information from a small-time gambler and racketeer named Howard Spira, who used to work for Winfield’s charity foundation.

The 1990 season was the worst in the Yankees’ history and they finished last after 24 years. It was their first last-place finish in the division era and the second most losses after 1912.

https://pinstripesnation.com/3-worst-yankees-teams-of-all-time-2022-11-17/

I blame Mattingly for that season.  

mcgruff10

xavier mcdaniel said:

mcgruff10 said:

I have no clue if it's our bad luck but does Yankee stadium still have bp?  I remember as a kid getting there early with my glove and waiting in right field for a nice shot.  I actually got a ball opening day 1989 (I still have it).  We've gone to a few games now, went in when gates opened and there is never bp.  

The Yankees are typically on the field for about an hour before gates open, so you're likely seeing them wind up batting practice and the visiting team get set up for batting practice.

The visiting team didn't even do bp.  

Poncier

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

I still can't believe we are this bad.  Last time they finished last in the AL East was 1990!

1990 New York Yankees: The total mess

During this season, the Yankees had a 67-95 record, which was their lowest moment in the American League and make them the worst Yankees team. Their season was a total mess. In 1990, Jesse Barfield was the best player for the Yankees. But the star outfielder never lived up to the expectations the Yankees had for him.

Don Mattingly had back problems all season, which limited him to just 102 games and gave him the worst stats of his career. The worst Yankees performance in years caused the team owners to fire manager Bucky Dent on June 6. The team was ready to play the Red Sox at Fenway Park when the sacking news was made public.

After a fight with Dave Winfield, owner George Steinbrenner paid a private investigator to find “dirt” on his star player Dave Winfield. MLB Commissioner Fay Vincent put a ban on the Yankees owner. Though he was initially banned for life, it was later reduced. Even worse, Steinbrenner was getting most of his information from a small-time gambler and racketeer named Howard Spira, who used to work for Winfield’s charity foundation.

The 1990 season was the worst in the Yankees’ history and they finished last after 24 years. It was their first last-place finish in the division era and the second most losses after 1912.

https://pinstripesnation.com/3-worst-yankees-teams-of-all-time-2022-11-17/

I blame Mattingly for that season.  

igotid88

F Me In The Brain said:

mcgruff10 said:

I still can't believe we are this bad.  Last time they finished last in the AL East was 1990!

1990 New York Yankees: The total mess

During this season, the Yankees had a 67-95 record, which was their lowest moment in the American League and make them the worst Yankees team. Their season was a total mess. In 1990, Jesse Barfield was the best player for the Yankees. But the star outfielder never lived up to the expectations the Yankees had for him.

Don Mattingly had back problems all season, which limited him to just 102 games and gave him the worst stats of his career. The worst Yankees performance in years caused the team owners to fire manager Bucky Dent on June 6. The team was ready to play the Red Sox at Fenway Park when the sacking news was made public.

After a fight with Dave Winfield, owner George Steinbrenner paid a private investigator to find “dirt” on his star player Dave Winfield. MLB Commissioner Fay Vincent put a ban on the Yankees owner. Though he was initially banned for life, it was later reduced. Even worse, Steinbrenner was getting most of his information from a small-time gambler and racketeer named Howard Spira, who used to work for Winfield’s charity foundation.

The 1990 season was the worst in the Yankees’ history and they finished last after 24 years. It was their first last-place finish in the division era and the second most losses after 1912.

https://pinstripesnation.com/3-worst-yankees-teams-of-all-time-2022-11-17/

I blame Mattingly for that season.  

I bet a lot of people did

Cliffy6745

Wait...Old Timer's Day game is no more? I didn't even realize that didn't happen this year and now there's no game?!?!

This organization is a fucking complete disgrace.

igotid88

Cliffy6745 said:

Wait...Old Timer's Day game is no more? I didn't even realize that didn't happen this year and now there's no game?!?!

This organization is a fucking complete disgrace.

Last year either. There's an Old Timer's Day. Just no game. September 9 this year. They're just doing introductions

Poncier

Cliffy6745 said:

Wait...Old Timer's Day game is no more?  

What's the point without Joe Pepitone.
Nobody to plunk.

igotid88

I don't blame Boone nor did I give him any credit. It's the players. He went from having 100 wins seasons to having an under .500 record these last 200 games. Even with a good analytics team the players need to perform. Or did they give Boone more managing power these last 200 games and this it the result? I doubt it because from what I've heard the analytics people think they're right and this is the way

Cliffy6745

igotid88 said:

I don't blame Boone nor did I give him any credit. It's the players. He went from having 100 wins seasons to having an under .500 record these last 200 games. Even with a good analytics team the players need to perform. Or did they give Boone more managing power these last 200 games and this it the result? I doubt it because from what I've heard the analytics people think they're right and this is the way

Rotten at every level. The coaching sucks, stupid mistakes, Boone with the most ridiculous optimism ever and the front office sucks. It all sucks 

igotid88

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

I don't blame Boone nor did I give him any credit. It's the players. He went from having 100 wins seasons to having an under .500 record these last 200 games. Even with a good analytics team the players need to perform. Or did they give Boone more managing power these last 200 games and this it the result? I doubt it because from what I've heard the analytics people think they're right and this is the way

Rotten at every level. The coaching sucks, stupid mistakes, Boone with the most ridiculous optimism ever and the front office sucks. It all sucks 

That's really his main job. Talking to the media. That's why they had the 13 hour interview? 

xavier mcdaniel

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

I don't blame Boone nor did I give him any credit. It's the players. He went from having 100 wins seasons to having an under .500 record these last 200 games. Even with a good analytics team the players need to perform. Or did they give Boone more managing power these last 200 games and this it the result? I doubt it because from what I've heard the analytics people think they're right and this is the way

Rotten at every level. The coaching sucks, stupid mistakes, Boone with the most ridiculous optimism ever and the front office sucks. It all sucks 

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

I don't blame Boone nor did I give him any credit. It's the players. He went from having 100 wins seasons to having an under .500 record these last 200 games. Even with a good analytics team the players need to perform. Or did they give Boone more managing power these last 200 games and this it the result? I doubt it because from what I've heard the analytics people think they're right and this is the way

Rotten at every level. The coaching sucks, stupid mistakes, Boone with the most ridiculous optimism ever and the front office sucks. It all sucks 

The optimism is what they wanted from him. They didn't like Joe Girardi's negativity at times, especially when he criticized Gary Sanchez in Aug. 2017 in Cleveland but man they would have hated Terry Collins who had way more reasons to give criticism when he managed the Mets.

McGruff

mcgruff10 said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

1966 team - jeez they had just won 5 straight pennants 1960-64. That's some extreme fair-weather fanning.

They were unable to fill the seats, which was a shame. On September 22, 1966, when the New York Yankees played the Chicago White Sox, only 413 people paid to be there. Seeing only 413 people in a stadium that seats 65,000 was very discouraging, and it might have been a good way to describe the whole 1966 season.

It always amazes me how stadiums in New York still get filled with the costs. If you drive to Yankee Stadium, it's 47 in the main garage across the street and 40 to park for a Mets game.

a few weeks ago I brought my son to a Yanks game and couldn't believe that parking was $47! Don't forgot parkway, turnpike and gwb tolls.  It's definitely an expensive stadium to go to.  After that game we agreed to go to one game a year, next year I might take the train in. I just hate driving in the city, not fun.  
They aren't my team but Philly is so easy to get in and out of.  

Wife and I decided instead of going to Yankee Stadium for a game or 2 each season we were going to start going to road games to see the other parks. 

mcgruff10

McGruff said:

mcgruff10 said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

1966 team - jeez they had just won 5 straight pennants 1960-64. That's some extreme fair-weather fanning.

They were unable to fill the seats, which was a shame. On September 22, 1966, when the New York Yankees played the Chicago White Sox, only 413 people paid to be there. Seeing only 413 people in a stadium that seats 65,000 was very discouraging, and it might have been a good way to describe the whole 1966 season.

It always amazes me how stadiums in New York still get filled with the costs. If you drive to Yankee Stadium, it's 47 in the main garage across the street and 40 to park for a Mets game.

a few weeks ago I brought my son to a Yanks game and couldn't believe that parking was $47! Don't forgot parkway, turnpike and gwb tolls.  It's definitely an expensive stadium to go to.  After that game we agreed to go to one game a year, next year I might take the train in. I just hate driving in the city, not fun.  
They aren't my team but Philly is so easy to get in and out of.  

Wife and I decided instead of going to Yankee Stadium for a game or 2 each season we were going to start going to road games to see the other parks. 

That s a good plan.  Are we related?

Cliffy6745

xavier mcdaniel said:

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

I don't blame Boone nor did I give him any credit. It's the players. He went from having 100 wins seasons to having an under .500 record these last 200 games. Even with a good analytics team the players need to perform. Or did they give Boone more managing power these last 200 games and this it the result? I doubt it because from what I've heard the analytics people think they're right and this is the way

Rotten at every level. The coaching sucks, stupid mistakes, Boone with the most ridiculous optimism ever and the front office sucks. It all sucks 

Cliffy6745 said:

igotid88 said:

I don't blame Boone nor did I give him any credit. It's the players. He went from having 100 wins seasons to having an under .500 record these last 200 games. Even with a good analytics team the players need to perform. Or did they give Boone more managing power these last 200 games and this it the result? I doubt it because from what I've heard the analytics people think they're right and this is the way

Rotten at every level. The coaching sucks, stupid mistakes, Boone with the most ridiculous optimism ever and the front office sucks. It all sucks 

The optimism is what they wanted from him. They didn't like Joe Girardi's negativity at times, especially when he criticized Gary Sanchez in Aug. 2017 in Cleveland but man they would have hated Terry Collins who had way more reasons to give criticism when he managed the Mets.

I get it and I think it’s needed to an extent over 162, but come on…it’s lying through his teeth at points. Jomboy straight up asked him if he laughs at the stuff he says