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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    Kluber is going to go to the NL.  Syndegaard is not going to get traded, especially to the Yanks.  The Yanks are going to end up with a dog crap rotation.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    Screw Hal. Screw Hal hard
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    This is beyond trash.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    People are probably getting annoyed with me but this report the Yankees have been in touch with Galvis are just glorious.

    If this offseason ends with Paxton, Happ, two bullpen pieces and some short term crap replacement for Didi....good god.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Freddy Galvis....hahaha
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    At least they didn’t give lance lynn $30 mil...good god 
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,151
    People are probably getting annoyed with me but this report the Yankees have been in touch with Galvis are just glorious.

    If this offseason ends with Paxton, Happ, two bullpen pieces and some short term crap replacement for Didi....good god.


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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    edited December 2018
    2 years with an option based on performance is significantly more acceptable but they need a Fucking ace.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    Cashman also talking a big game all of a sudden
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    2 years with an option based on performance is significantly more acceptable but they need a Fucking ace.
    Him and Morton got pretty reasonable deals. 
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    edited December 2018
    2 years with an option based on performance is significantly more acceptable but they need a Fucking ace.
    Him and Morton got pretty reasonable deals. 
    I don’t hate either. I’d much prefer 6 years of Corbin to 3 guaranteed of happ, but not sure how I feel about two of happ compared to 6 of Corbin. Leaves them a lot more flexibility.

    the lance Lynn contract though...
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,244
    edited December 2018
    2 years with an option based on performance is significantly more acceptable but they need a Fucking ace.
    Him and Morton got pretty reasonable deals. 
    I don’t hate either. I’d much prefer 6 years of Corbin to 3 guaranteed of happ, but not sure how I feel about two of happ compared to 6 of Corbin. Leaves them a lot more flexibility.

    the lance Lynn contract though...
    I think you are going to be better off with 2-3 of Happ vs/. locked in with 6 years of DudeWhoIsGonnaGetLitUp Corbin. 
    Career ERA nearing 4, 2 of the last 3 years were average (at best) and last year he massively outpaced any #s he had put up to date.
    He chose wisely to avoid the AL, and the AL East specifically, and to go where he can be a #3 starter - so the NL East will be a bit more kind to him and he may get more Wins with the pitching matchups.
    That said, I would be willing to bet a chunk of change with anyone that dude will not post 200Ks in more than 1 of those 6 years and that he is a +4 ERA guy over the contract. 
    Had he gone to the AL East and the Yankees I would have bet that he would near a 5point and would get Sonny Gray'd in his bungholio.


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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    2 years with an option based on performance is significantly more acceptable but they need a Fucking ace.
    Him and Morton got pretty reasonable deals. 
    I don’t hate either. I’d much prefer 6 years of Corbin to 3 guaranteed of happ, but not sure how I feel about two of happ compared to 6 of Corbin. Leaves them a lot more flexibility.

    the lance Lynn contract though...
    I think you are going to be better off with 2-3 of Happ vs/. locked in with 6 years of DudeWhoIsGonnaGetLitUp Corbin. 
    Career ERA nearing 4, 2 of the last 3 years were average (at best) and last year he massively outpaced any #s he had put up to date.
    He chose wisely to avoid the AL, and the AL East specifically, and to go where he can be a #3 starter - so the NL East will be a bit more kind to him and he may get more Wins with the pitching matchups.
    That said, I would be willing to bet a chunk of change with anyone that dude will not post 200Ks in more than 1 of those 6 years and that he is a +4 ERA guy over the contract. 
    Had he gone to the AL East and the Yankees I would have bet that he would near a 5point and would get Sonny Gray'd in his bungholio.


    I said in the Phillies thread, but I like Corbin more than most and I think he's just hitting his stride.  One good year, NL West, injuries...I know.  But I think he has the stuff to sustain himself over a 6 year contract.  I like his age, that he has TJ behind him, that he has the wipe out pitch and is not a straight fastball pitcher where a dip in velocity shouldn't be a huge issue.  The concern is that the wipe out pitch seems to be fairly new and if people figure it out, he's screwed because he lives outside the zone too much.  That said, I do like Corbin more than most but could see it going your way.  My point was more that Corbin's contract will be up before Happ's even starts, and while Happ has a much longer track record including the AL Easy, is 36-38 of Happ better than 29-34 of Corbin?
  • 2 years with an option based on performance is significantly more acceptable but they need a Fucking ace.
    Him and Morton got pretty reasonable deals. 
    I don’t hate either. I’d much prefer 6 years of Corbin to 3 guaranteed of happ, but not sure how I feel about two of happ compared to 6 of Corbin. Leaves them a lot more flexibility.

    the lance Lynn contract though...
    I think you are going to be better off with 2-3 of Happ vs/. locked in with 6 years of DudeWhoIsGonnaGetLitUp Corbin. 
    Career ERA nearing 4, 2 of the last 3 years were average (at best) and last year he massively outpaced any #s he had put up to date.
    He chose wisely to avoid the AL, and the AL East specifically, and to go where he can be a #3 starter - so the NL East will be a bit more kind to him and he may get more Wins with the pitching matchups.
    That said, I would be willing to bet a chunk of change with anyone that dude will not post 200Ks in more than 1 of those 6 years and that he is a +4 ERA guy over the contract. 
    Had he gone to the AL East and the Yankees I would have bet that he would near a 5point and would get Sonny Gray'd in his bungholio.


    I said in the Phillies thread, but I like Corbin more than most and I think he's just hitting his stride.  One good year, NL West, injuries...I know.  But I think he has the stuff to sustain himself over a 6 year contract.  I like his age, that he has TJ behind him, that he has the wipe out pitch and is not a straight fastball pitcher where a dip in velocity shouldn't be a huge issue.  The concern is that the wipe out pitch seems to be fairly new and if people figure it out, he's screwed because he lives outside the zone too much.  That said, I do like Corbin more than most but could see it going your way.  My point was more that Corbin's contract will be up before Happ's even starts, and while Happ has a much longer track record including the AL Easy, is 36-38 of Happ better than 29-34 of Corbin?
    We will never get to see a true comparison but if they both pitched in the Bronx for the next 2-3 years my bet is that their results would not be that far apart.  (I think the AL East and pressure of NY makes that much difference...and I do not think as highly of Corbin as you do.  Go and get you some Klubot if you want to overpay (with prospects) for a stud pitcher who can make it in the AL.)
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    edited December 2018
    So if the offseason ends with Happ, Paxton, an average replacement for Didi and 2 good bullpen pieces.  Are they as good as Boston?

    Hell no. Gotta do more. 
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    The Yankees are one of the richest franchises in the world and a tiny fraction of their revenue comes from attendance. 

    The market is 2 top 10 players in the game who are 26. ‘Tis a good market 
  • The Yankees are one of the richest franchises in the world and a tiny fraction of their revenue comes from attendance. 

    The market is 2 top 10 players in the game who are 26. ‘Tis a good market 
    Then what’s holding them back? Has ad revenue dropped? Or was it buying the YES network back? 
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    The Yankees are one of the richest franchises in the world and a tiny fraction of their revenue comes from attendance. 

    The market is 2 top 10 players in the game who are 26. ‘Tis a good market 
    Then what’s holding them back? Has ad revenue dropped? Or was it buying the YES network back? 
    Hal would rather buy another house 
  • The Yankees are one of the richest franchises in the world and a tiny fraction of their revenue comes from attendance. 

    The market is 2 top 10 players in the game who are 26. ‘Tis a good market 
    Then what’s holding them back? Has ad revenue dropped? Or was it buying the YES network back? 
    Hal would rather buy another house 
    No heart.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    Opposite direction of his old man
    Yeah, fuck him
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    edited December 2018
    Machado should be a yankees before Christmas or Hal is a disgrace 

    what if Stanton opts out and they don’t sign either of these guys. Really giving up this core?!
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    Machado should be a yankees before Christmas or Hal is a disgrace 

    what if Stanton opts out and they don’t sign either of these guys. Really giving up this core?!
    the way teams are being with contracts now and not giving guys over 30 long contracts. It probably won't be a good idea for Stanton to opt out. Unless he has unreal numbers.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    igotid88 said:
    Machado should be a yankees before Christmas or Hal is a disgrace 

    what if Stanton opts out and they don’t sign either of these guys. Really giving up this core?!
    the way teams are being with contracts now and not giving guys over 30 long contracts. It probably won't be a good idea for Stanton to opt out. Unless he has unreal numbers.
    That’s true. But if he doesn’t that’s a very reasonable contract probably...

    you dont think the stanton out is a decent factor? Would they rather get stuck with two of them or none?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    I don’t know what Beltran’s responsibilities are but I like the hire 
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,151
    I don’t know what Beltran’s responsibilities are 

    get coffee for Hal.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    igotid88 said:
    Machado should be a yankees before Christmas or Hal is a disgrace 

    what if Stanton opts out and they don’t sign either of these guys. Really giving up this core?!
    the way teams are being with contracts now and not giving guys over 30 long contracts. It probably won't be a good idea for Stanton to opt out. Unless he has unreal numbers.
    That’s true. But if he doesn’t that’s a very reasonable contract probably...

    you dont think the stanton out is a decent factor? Would they rather get stuck with two of them or none?
    I don't know. Around that time Judge, Sanchez, and Severino will be UFAs. Judge will be 30, Sanchez 29, and Severino 28 when they become free agents. If they don't trade Ellsbury they'll definitely buy him out in 2021. They're basically coming back with the same team. Gleyber will have an extra month. So will Judge barring any injuries. Didi will be out until maybe July best case scenario. They're still a playoff team. 
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,837
    igotid88 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Machado should be a yankees before Christmas or Hal is a disgrace 

    what if Stanton opts out and they don’t sign either of these guys. Really giving up this core?!
    the way teams are being with contracts now and not giving guys over 30 long contracts. It probably won't be a good idea for Stanton to opt out. Unless he has unreal numbers.
    That’s true. But if he doesn’t that’s a very reasonable contract probably...

    you dont think the stanton out is a decent factor? Would they rather get stuck with two of them or none?
    I don't know. Around that time Judge, Sanchez, and Severino will be UFAs. Judge will be 30, Sanchez 29, and Severino 28 when they become free agents. If they don't trade Ellsbury they'll definitely buy him out in 2021. They're basically coming back with the same team. Gleyber will have an extra month. So will Judge barring any injuries. Didi will be out until maybe July best case scenario. They're still a playoff team. 
    So this kinda goes to the point that the time to win is now. The core is good and cost controlled.  They can afford these guys now because of that. Judge is going to be 30+ when he hits free agency, who knows how his body will hold up.  Ellsbury is done after 2020, I think, right?  I think the second they stop collecting insurance on him though, he is released.

    I expect a good year from Gleyber, but you can't say that is the guy to take over. He's so young.

    Regardless, happy Manny Machado day.
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