Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
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EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Sanchez has more home runs this season than any Yankee catcher ever. Have had a few decent ones too
The only great hitting catcher was Berra. Posada was average at best.
I am going to go out on a limb and say an .850 career OPS for a catcher is not average at best.
Was a different time but Howard and Munson were obviously pretty decent players themselves
Munson didn't have the longevity unfortunately. He was robbed of that.
That OPS is misleading. He's ranked higher than Reggie Jackson, Roberto Clemente and Kirby Puckett.
As a catcher yes, he was good. My statement should have been "average at best for a player." As a catcher batting he was good, so my words were poor.
Insanity to say that Posada was an average baseball player at best. Pure insanity.
Reggie has an OPS+ of 139 to Posada's 121, so that is more accurate.
Great players get inducted into the HOF, average players do not. That's my bar to go by.
Come again?!?!? So there are two types of players? Average at best and hall of famers?
Moose, average at best. Paul O'Neill, average at best Jimmy Key, average at best Andy Pettitte, average at best Bernie, average at best
Posada was a very good catcher (which is much more valuable than an average position player) and put up some solid offensive numbers for catchers.
You can be "above average" and still be average...
All the above I'd put in the above average category. None of which will make the HOF. Mussina is the only one with the numbers to perhaps get into the hall.
I do think you are biased in that all these players won championships and put them on a higher pedestal?
Paul O'Neil was fun to watch, I loved Bernie in center but they are good average players. They aren't great. Great for the yankees at the time? Yes. Great all time? No.
The Yankees for a long time could take average players and make them seem way better than what they were. The teams were so good at playing with one another they just gelled. There were a whole bunch of players that did better from joining the team.
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Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Yanks are definitely signing the Japanese kid if he comes over huh? I don't get why he would come over this year though.
I love the "Thumbs Down" !!!
not to mention Frazier
Was a different time but Howard and Munson were obviously pretty decent players themselves
That OPS is misleading. He's ranked higher than Reggie Jackson, Roberto Clemente and Kirby Puckett.
As a catcher yes, he was good. My statement should have been "average at best for a player." As a catcher batting he was good, so my words were poor.
Reggie has an OPS+ of 139 to Posada's 121, so that is more accurate.
Moose, average at best.
Paul O'Neill, average at best
Jimmy Key, average at best
Andy Pettitte, average at best
Bernie, average at best
Posada was a very good catcher (which is much more valuable than an average position player) and put up some solid offensive numbers for catchers.
All the above I'd put in the above average category. None of which will make the HOF. Mussina is the only one with the numbers to perhaps get into the hall.
I do think you are biased in that all these players won championships and put them on a higher pedestal?
Paul O'Neil was fun to watch, I loved Bernie in center but they are good average players. They aren't great. Great for the yankees at the time? Yes. Great all time? No.
The Yankees for a long time could take average players and make them seem way better than what they were. The teams were so good at playing with one another they just gelled. There were a whole bunch of players that did better from joining the team.