They could go 0-162 and they still wouldn't fire Girardi. If George was still himself in 2008. He would've been fired then. Although he probably wouldn't have been the manager in the first place
They could go 0-162 and they still wouldn't fire Girardi. If George was still himself in 2008. Je would've been fired then. Although he probably wouldn't have been the manager in the first place
This is pretty comical.
Who is more responsible for this mess, Cashman or Girardi?
What has Girardi done to get fired? The Yankees have pretty clearly outplayed the talent on their roster for 2 or so years now.
I get it, his name is not Don Mattingly...who I might add, managed teams that played consistently worse than their talent level
He had 3 straight first place finishes. Something that organization hasn't done. He did the best he could without a good bullpen. I wouldn't say they were consistently worse. And the playoffs are a crapshoot. I think Girardi sometimes gets a pass because was anointed a great manager before he was a manager.
What has Girardi done to get fired? The Yankees have pretty clearly outplayed the talent on their roster for 2 or so years now.
I get it, his name is not Don Mattingly...who I might add, managed teams that played consistently worse than their talent level
He had 3 straight first place finishes. Something that organization hasn't done. He did the best he could without a good bullpen. I wouldn't say they were consistently worse. And the playoffs are a crapshoot. I think Girardi sometimes gets a pass because was anointed a great manager before he was a manager.
I think Girardi gets a pass because the Yankees know they haven't given him dick to work with.
What has Girardi done to get fired? The Yankees have pretty clearly outplayed the talent on their roster for 2 or so years now.
I get it, his name is not Don Mattingly...who I might add, managed teams that played consistently worse than their talent level
He had 3 straight first place finishes. Something that organization hasn't done. He did the best he could without a good bullpen. I wouldn't say they were consistently worse. And the playoffs are a crapshoot. I think Girardi sometimes gets a pass because was anointed a great manager before he was a manager.
I think Girardi gets a pass because the Yankees know they haven't given him dick to work with.
He has the players. They just underperformed. Elsbury is what I thought he would be. CC is not CC any more. Pineda hasn't really been that pitcher we thought we were getting. Eovaldi, we don't know if last year was an aberration. Headley not hitting.
What has Girardi done to get fired? The Yankees have pretty clearly outplayed the talent on their roster for 2 or so years now.
I get it, his name is not Don Mattingly...who I might add, managed teams that played consistently worse than their talent level
He had 3 straight first place finishes. Something that organization hasn't done. He did the best he could without a good bullpen. I wouldn't say they were consistently worse. And the playoffs are a crapshoot. I think Girardi sometimes gets a pass because was anointed a great manager before he was a manager.
I think Girardi gets a pass because the Yankees know they haven't given him dick to work with.
He has the players. They just underperformed. Elsbury is what I thought he would be. CC is not CC any more. Pineda hasn't really been that pitcher we thought we were getting. Eovaldi, we don't know if last year was an aberration. Headley not hitting.
He has the players to do what? Field a team, sure. Everything you just pointed out points to Cashman. A bunch of question marks.
For the record, I could go either way on Cashman, but I would lean towards him staying and seeing the rebuild through.
I would strongly argue that they have significantly over performed the last couple years.
This team presently constituted no matter who the manager is is an 85 win team. And since Alex and now CC went down. Everybody's been pretty much healthy.
I don't think they'll get swept again this weekend. And I believe they'll win more games than what people think these next 3 series coming up. But these are not the 3 teams you wanna see after starting off this bad.
They could go 0-162 and they still wouldn't fire Girardi. If George was still himself in 2008. Je would've been fired then. Although he probably wouldn't have been the manager in the first place
This is pretty comical.
Who is more responsible for this mess, Cashman or Girardi?
Well, Cahman, but not the way you think. He has to play out the string on a couple of contracts. CC signed 7 years ago, ARod 8, Beltran a few in hopes of grabbing 1 more, etc. I gladly trade a couple rough years for the last World Series and the chances since then. There was no reason to trade last year and sign anyone this year. Let those contracts run their course, and then the next generation is ready. Hopefully a few of the, are for real, you already have Didi in place, then surround Bird, Judge, Severino, etc. with a couple of key free agents and it looks an awful lot like the way they won before.
And that's why Girardis not going anywhere. He won far more games than he should have last year. That and this team are terrible. After this year, they are in place to start the next go round, now, if this crop fails, Cashman and Girardi will both be gone. But that's at least 2017, and only if no progress is shown.
In the 80s George was the teams worst enemy bc he would fire guys and not follow the process. Only through his suspension was Stick Michael able to assemble and hold onto the core that turned into Champions. And that's the formula now. Patience. You need look no further than Queens to see what a good GM does when given the chance to develop a team.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
They could go 0-162 and they still wouldn't fire Girardi. If George was still himself in 2008. Je would've been fired then. Although he probably wouldn't have been the manager in the first place
This is pretty comical.
Who is more responsible for this mess, Cashman or Girardi?
Well, Cahman, but not the way you think. He has to play out the string on a couple of contracts. CC signed 7 years ago, ARod 8, Beltran a few in hopes of grabbing 1 more, etc. I gladly trade a couple rough years for the last World Series and the chances since then. There was no reason to trade last year and sign anyone this year. Let those contracts run their course, and then the next generation is ready. Hopefully a few of the, are for real, you already have Didi in place, then surround Bird, Judge, Severino, etc. with a couple of key free agents and it looks an awful lot like the way they won before.
And that's why Girardis not going anywhere. He won far more games than he should have last year. That and this team are terrible. After this year, they are in place to start the next go round, now, if this crop fails, Cashman and Girardi will both be gone. But that's at least 2017, and only if no progress is shown.
In the 80s George was the teams worst enemy bc he would fire guys and not follow the process. Only through his suspension was Stick Michael able to assemble and hold onto the core that turned into Champions. And that's the formula now. Patience. You need look no further than Queens to see what a good GM does when given the chance to develop a team.
I think Omar Minaya should get some credit for the Mets success
completely agree on everything. Though I think cashman should be hit for the Ellsbury and even headley contracts. Those haven't had a minimal return.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
They could go 0-162 and they still wouldn't fire Girardi. If George was still himself in 2008. Je would've been fired then. Although he probably wouldn't have been the manager in the first place
This is pretty comical.
Who is more responsible for this mess, Cashman or Girardi?
Well, Cahman, but not the way you think. He has to play out the string on a couple of contracts. CC signed 7 years ago, ARod 8, Beltran a few in hopes of grabbing 1 more, etc. I gladly trade a couple rough years for the last World Series and the chances since then. There was no reason to trade last year and sign anyone this year. Let those contracts run their course, and then the next generation is ready. Hopefully a few of the, are for real, you already have Didi in place, then surround Bird, Judge, Severino, etc. with a couple of key free agents and it looks an awful lot like the way they won before.
And that's why Girardis not going anywhere. He won far more games than he should have last year. That and this team are terrible. After this year, they are in place to start the next go round, now, if this crop fails, Cashman and Girardi will both be gone. But that's at least 2017, and only if no progress is shown.
In the 80s George was the teams worst enemy bc he would fire guys and not follow the process. Only through his suspension was Stick Michael able to assemble and hold onto the core that turned into Champions. And that's the formula now. Patience. You need look no further than Queens to see what a good GM does when given the chance to develop a team.
I think Omar Minaya should get some credit for the Mets success
Definitely.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
completely agree on everything. Though I think cashman should be hit for the Ellsbury and even headley contracts. Those haven't had a minimal return.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
Girardi is not going anywhere and he shouldn't
Well, Ellsbury hasn't been as bad as people think. When he's been healthy, he's made the offense go. Unfortunately, he was signed right at the end of the roids era when GMs had to start adjusting to the fact that age 27 and 28 are truly peaks and should no longer expect new peaks in mid 30s. It's hard to account for injuries and such.
Headley, well yeah. When you see guys like that have 1 amazing year it's hard not to assume PEDs were involved.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
completely agree on everything. Though I think cashman should be hit for the Ellsbury and even headley contracts. Those haven't had a minimal return.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
Girardi is not going anywhere and he shouldn't
Well, Ellsbury hasn't been as bad as people think. When he's been healthy, he's made the offense go. Unfortunately, he was signed right at the end of the roids era when GMs had to start adjusting to the fact that age 27 and 28 are truly peaks and should no longer expect new peaks in mid 30s. It's hard to account for injuries and such.
Headley, well yeah. When you see guys like that have 1 amazing year it's hard not to assume PEDs were involved.
Ellsbury stinks. He made the offense go for 2 months since he's been here.
Despite the latest injury by Ellsbury, whose brittleness is getting tiresome and we're only in year three, that was actually a fun game, especially the ninth inning.
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completely agree on everything. Though I think cashman should be hit for the Ellsbury and even headley contracts. Those haven't had a minimal return.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
Girardi is not going anywhere and he shouldn't
Well, Ellsbury hasn't been as bad as people think. When he's been healthy, he's made the offense go. Unfortunately, he was signed right at the end of the roids era when GMs had to start adjusting to the fact that age 27 and 28 are truly peaks and should no longer expect new peaks in mid 30s. It's hard to account for injuries and such.
Headley, well yeah. When you see guys like that have 1 amazing year it's hard not to assume PEDs were involved.
Ellsbury stinks. He made the offense go for 2 months since he's been here.
Well, you think Gardner is good, so I will take that for what it's worth. Ha ha.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
completely agree on everything. Though I think cashman should be hit for the Ellsbury and even headley contracts. Those haven't had a minimal return.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
Girardi is not going anywhere and he shouldn't
Well, Ellsbury hasn't been as bad as people think. When he's been healthy, he's made the offense go. Unfortunately, he was signed right at the end of the roids era when GMs had to start adjusting to the fact that age 27 and 28 are truly peaks and should no longer expect new peaks in mid 30s. It's hard to account for injuries and such.
Headley, well yeah. When you see guys like that have 1 amazing year it's hard not to assume PEDs were involved.
Ellsbury stinks. He made the offense go for 2 months since he's been here.
Well, you think Gardner is good, so I will take that for what it's worth. Ha ha.
Just as good as Ellsbury except he is incapable or stealing a base somehow and getting paid $100 million less
completely agree on everything. Though I think cashman should be hit for the Ellsbury and even headley contracts. Those haven't had a minimal return.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
Girardi is not going anywhere and he shouldn't
Well, Ellsbury hasn't been as bad as people think. When he's been healthy, he's made the offense go. Unfortunately, he was signed right at the end of the roids era when GMs had to start adjusting to the fact that age 27 and 28 are truly peaks and should no longer expect new peaks in mid 30s. It's hard to account for injuries and such.
Headley, well yeah. When you see guys like that have 1 amazing year it's hard not to assume PEDs were involved.
Ellsbury stinks. He made the offense go for 2 months since he's been here.
Well, you think Gardner is good, so I will take that for what it's worth. Ha ha.
Just as good as Ellsbury except he is incapable or stealing a base somehow and getting paid $100 million less
Let's see what they're doing in August. Ellsburys problem is injuries. Gardners is over exposure. Injuries are part of the game and a fair criticism at this point. Gardner is a he is a fourth OF and a result of playing out the string on expensive contracts. On a good team, he is not playing every day bc he's simply would not be one of the 3 best of on a day to day basis. Ellsbury wouldn't bc of injuries. There is a difference.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
completely agree on everything. Though I think cashman should be hit for the Ellsbury and even headley contracts. Those haven't had a minimal return.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
Girardi is not going anywhere and he shouldn't
Well, Ellsbury hasn't been as bad as people think. When he's been healthy, he's made the offense go. Unfortunately, he was signed right at the end of the roids era when GMs had to start adjusting to the fact that age 27 and 28 are truly peaks and should no longer expect new peaks in mid 30s. It's hard to account for injuries and such.
Headley, well yeah. When you see guys like that have 1 amazing year it's hard not to assume PEDs were involved.
Ellsbury stinks. He made the offense go for 2 months since he's been here.
Well, you think Gardner is good, so I will take that for what it's worth. Ha ha.
Just as good as Ellsbury except he is incapable or stealing a base somehow and getting paid $100 million less
Let's see what they're doing in August. Ellsburys problem is injuries. Gardners is over exposure. Injuries are part of the game and a fair criticism at this point. Gardner is a he is a fourth OF and a result of playing out the string on expensive contracts. On a good team, he is not playing every day bc he's simply would not be one of the 3 best of on a day to day basis. Ellsbury wouldn't bc of injuries. There is a difference.
Yeah but it's not like they didn't know he was fragile when they signed him.
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Who is more responsible for this mess, Cashman or Girardi?
I get it, his name is not Don Mattingly...who I might add, managed teams that played consistently worse than their talent level
Im gonna guess he fell asleep and made a bonehead defensive play?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Please explain the mistake Castro made.
Im curious.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
For the record, I could go either way on Cashman, but I would lean towards him staying and seeing the rebuild through.
I would strongly argue that they have significantly over performed the last couple years.
And that's why Girardis not going anywhere. He won far more games than he should have last year. That and this team are terrible. After this year, they are in place to start the next go round, now, if this crop fails, Cashman and Girardi will both be gone. But that's at least 2017, and only if no progress is shown.
In the 80s George was the teams worst enemy bc he would fire guys and not follow the process. Only through his suspension was Stick Michael able to assemble and hold onto the core that turned into Champions. And that's the formula now. Patience. You need look no further than Queens to see what a good GM does when given the chance to develop a team.
He also hasn't made a bad trade in what seems like a decade. His drafts have been very poor until recently but I am good with him seeing this rebuild through, like I said.
I said last year that I think this is the year the wheels fall off. I got excited about potential but it wasn't to be. Play out the big contract, get the kids up and start the free agent process over.
Girardi is not going anywhere and he shouldn't
Headley, well yeah. When you see guys like that have 1 amazing year it's hard not to assume PEDs were involved.
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