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jimed14

metsfan wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

Andrus (and others) cover more ground, get to more balls and ultimately ... GET MORE PLAYERS OUT.

and cause they are all younger than jeter. yes age does fact into your range and the ground you can cover. look at jeters numbers when he was younger. everyone in the top 10 has 8-25 errors. no matter how you slice it, that error range is alot to me.

Jeter only has 8 errors because there are 70 less balls that he is getting to compared to Andrus. If you back out the extra errors, that is 50 more outs Andrus is recording over Jeter.

I'm done trying to explain this. I'm baffled this isn't setting in.

In summation ...

Jeter had a great year. He had a very good year defensively, top 5 in the AL ... his offense is what ultimately won him the gold glove.

He better not win the AL MVP over Mauer.

At the end of the day, DJ has the only trophy that matters ... the champonship trophy. Kudos to him for that.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

jimed14 wrote:

metsfan wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

Andrus (and others) cover more ground, get to more balls and ultimately ... GET MORE PLAYERS OUT.

and cause they are all younger than jeter. yes age does fact into your range and the ground you can cover. look at jeters numbers when he was younger. everyone in the top 10 has 8-25 errors. no matter how you slice it, that error range is alot to me.

Jeter only has 8 errors because there are 70 less balls that he is getting to compared to Andrus. If you back out the extra errors, that is 50 more outs Andrus is recording over Jeter.

I'm done trying to explain this. I'm baffled this isn't setting in.

In summation ...

Jeter had a great year. He had a very good year defensively, top 5 in the AL ... his offense is what ultimately won him the gold glove.

He better not win the AL MVP over Mauer.

At the end of the day, DJ has the only trophy that matters ... the champonship trophy. Kudos to him for that.

70 less balls Jeter is getting to.....

Because A-rod is getting to them first????

Just a thought....

Gary Carter

i'm baffled you keep ignoring age and games played this season. i'm staring right at the fucking stats of the top 10 ss and they all played less games than him and had more errors than jeter.

jeters fielding percentage is better than anyone in the top 10 and has more innings than all but one player in the top 10.

xavier mcdaniel

bottom line is that coaches and managers aren't following sabrmetrics that closely.

Cliffy6745

I don't necessarily think that Jeter was the best defensive SS in the AL this year but the Gold Glove system is so flawed I am not at all suprised that Jeter won it considering his huge defensive improvement this year. He went from a -0.5 UZR to a 6.6 this year, which is by far his best season since they have been keeping the stat (he has never even been in positive numbers since 02). Sure players probably had better defensive years but with Jeters name and his improved defense you would be crazy to think that someone like Elvis Andrus would win it above him.

That 8 errors jumps to 15 easily if Tex was not at 1B

igotid88

so there's talk of the Tiger's possibly trading Curtis Granderson.

intodeep

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't necessarily think that Jeter was the best defensive SS in the AL this year but the Gold Glove system is so flawed I am not at all suprised that Jeter won it considering his huge defensive improvement this year. He went from a -0.5 UZR to a 6.6 this year, which is by far his best season since they have been keeping the stat (he has never even been in positive numbers since 02). Sure players probably had better defensive years but with Jeters name and his improved defense you would be crazy to think that someone like Elvis Andrus would win it above him.

That 8 errors jumps to 15 easily if Tex was not at 1B

I'm not saying I think Jeter deserved the GG, but it is pretty amazing the turn around he had defensively at his age. I think it speaks to the kind of player he is.

Cliffy6745

intodeep wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't necessarily think that Jeter was the best defensive SS in the AL this year but the Gold Glove system is so flawed I am not at all suprised that Jeter won it considering his huge defensive improvement this year. He went from a -0.5 UZR to a 6.6 this year, which is by far his best season since they have been keeping the stat (he has never even been in positive numbers since 02). Sure players probably had better defensive years but with Jeters name and his improved defense you would be crazy to think that someone like Elvis Andrus would win it above him.

That 8 errors jumps to 15 easily if Tex was not at 1B

I'm not saying I think Jeter deserved the GG, but it is pretty amazing the turn around he had defensively at his age. I think it speaks to the kind of player he is.

Oh for sure. The point of that post was not to make an argument against Jeter. I think he probably did deserve it this year especially with a lack of an alternative.

igotid88

jeter and tex get the silver slugger awards for their positions in the al.

jimed14

jimed14 wrote:

In summation ...

Jeter had a great year. He had a very good year defensively, top 5 in the AL ... his offense is what ultimately won him the gold glove.

He better not win the AL MVP over Mauer.

Joe Mauer ... AL MVP ... the voters got it right.

Cliffy6745

jimed14 wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

In summation ...

Jeter had a great year. He had a very good year defensively, top 5 in the AL ... his offense is what ultimately won him the gold glove.

He better not win the AL MVP over Mauer.

Joe Mauer ... AL MVP ... the voters got it right.

Sure did, except some jackass gave a first place vote to Miguel Caberea. Absolutely absurd considering he decided to get absolutely trashed, and arrested in the middle of a pennant race in which his team lost a 3 game lead with 4 to play.

igotid88

It was probably a detroit writer.

igotid88

3 more months til opening day

Cliffy6745

igotid88 wrote:

3 more months til opening day

And I believe 46 days until the first work out. Right around the corner!

Fighting Hellfish

igotid88 wrote:

It was probably a detroit writer.

It was actually a Japanese writer, from a Japanese newspaper

jimed14

I'm glad this was changed to the 2010 Yankees thread ... my comments on the first page should buy me a little leeway when I'm calling the pinstripers a bunch of douchebags.

Here's to 2010, boys!

LloydXmas

Will they repeat. Only time will tell. Pitchers and catchers report on 2/18

igotid88

Shelley Duncan signs with the Indians. And Wang could throw off a mound in 6-8 weeks.

Cliffy6745

igotid88 wrote:

Shelley Duncan signs with the Indians. And Wang could throw off a mound in 6-8 weeks.

I wonder if the Yanks are serious about taking a shot and Wang and seeing if he can get his shit together in the minors.

Cliffy6745