4 had way to many hits and repeats. they coulda done a lot more rare songs like pry to, goat, brother, around the bend, get right.
They could have done a lot more rare songs? Dude, they played Out of my Mind, Sweet Lew, I'm Open, Pilate and Bugs. What more do you want?
what I said in my posts ya idiot. Can you not read. I was so bored with evenflow and betterman and alive on night 4. Why not play something like black red yellow, U or alone, wma, black diamond.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
They could have done a lot more rare songs? Dude, they played Out of my Mind, Sweet Lew, I'm Open, Pilate and Bugs. What more do you want?
and that totals about 10 minutes of music out of a 3+ hour show
pilate is great, the rest, I can do without
I can think of ten songs Id trade for each of those mentioned above-starting with all those yesterdays played on tues, no way played on wed, habit played on fri-just saying
I cannot believe this is even a discussion... Night 4 is BY FAR the best night... The band knew how imporatant it was to bring their A game last night and man did they ever... Did they dress up as Devo any other night? I dont think so... Did they play Bugs or Sweet Lew EVER before ummmm NO!!!! come one people you all know halloween and PJ and the last show ever at the venue was a special thing... Besides the rare songs the hits were also played with a greater sense of urgency... The band was in a great mood last night too with Eddie Joking around a lot... The crowd was good too, many people on here have been bitching about the crowd and the special guest rumors but come one people be realistic I payed to see Pearl Jam not f-ing Bon Jovi or Billy Joel... Like eddie was saying who needs Neal Peart when we have Matt Cameron !!! It was a once in a life time event and Im so glad I was lucky enough to be there... thanks to the band for being so gracious with the setlist and for playing their hearts out, you could tell it meant a lot to eddie and the band...
Agree 100 % -- PJ put there heart and soul into all of these shows but especially night 4 and it really paid off !! I was really glad that they were the only ones to play because they deserved to do this last show themselves and provide the best send off to the Spectrum !!!
Can say it enough -- Thank you Pearl Jam for the best four nights !!!
Thanks for the feedback. When I started this thread, I should have posted a disclaimer that I don't want this to turn into a pissing match of who's show was best. Fortunately that hasn't happened (yet) but from some other threads there seems to be a bit contention between those who favored Friday's show vs. those who favored the Saturday's closer. Of course everyone will have a different experience, so this is just opinion so please don't get bent.
So far I've counted 2 people on this thread (who say they attended all 4 shows) who felt that one of the 1st two shows was best; but the majority of people are pretty evenly split on 10/30 vs. 10/31. I was at Friday's show and it was possibly the best show I've seen (see signature for comparison to previous shows). It was easily the best show I've seen with regard to energy both from the band and the fans (9/11/98's "Breath" rally included). I think Matt & Jeff kept the tempo much higher than usual.
I was extremely jealous of not being able to see Night 4. Final show for the Spectrum, Halloween, rumored Special Guests, expected rarities and longer set, it was even daylight savings for extra post show events. Even though it had all of that going for it, I'd already purchased my Friday ticket and couldn't pull off 2 shows. But from the reviews I've read, Friday night might have been the better of the 2. Beyond some of the "disappointment" some in the crowd might have felt for rarities not heard, absent special guests and a Phillies loss I think there is also the make-up of the crowd to account for.
With the announcement of the 1st 2 of 4 shows, 10c members who didn't get 10c tix probably bought pre-sale or regular tix for those show (Fri. being 1 of them). With the addition of the other 2 shows (Sat. being one) I think might have attracted more casual fans - or even Philadelphians who wanted to see the send-off for the Spectrum and may have been only cursory PJ fans. Just a theory. I'm sure the show was unbelievable and I wish I would have been able to make it. But I am not surprised to read the reviews of Sat's show having less energy - it would have been tough to out-do Friday's ultra high level intensity.
4 had way to many hits and repeats. they coulda done a lot more rare songs like pry to, goat, brother, around the bend, get right.
They could have done a lot more rare songs? Dude, they played Out of my Mind, Sweet Lew, I'm Open, Pilate and Bugs. What more do you want?
what I said in my posts ya idiot. Can you not read. I was so bored with evenflow and betterman and alive on night 4. Why not play something like black red yellow, U or alone, wma, black diamond.
Normally I'd get on your case for being so childish...calling me an idiot and asking if I could read. But you're not worth it.
They could have done a lot more rare songs? Dude, they played Out of my Mind, Sweet Lew, I'm Open, Pilate and Bugs. What more do you want?
and that totals about 10 minutes of music out of a 3+ hour show
pilate is great, the rest, I can do without
I can think of ten songs Id trade for each of those mentioned above-starting with all those yesterdays played on tues, no way played on wed, habit played on fri-just saying
Exactly.....we got No Way, we got Habit, and a bunch of rarities throughout the week. I prefer those songs to the "rarities" played on Saturday as well. But I was happy to hear them when I did and happy to get what we got on Saturday. The 4th show had more than enough rarities for people who are into that and more than enough "hits" for people who are into that.
Normally I'd get on your case for being so childish...calling me an idiot and asking if I could read. But you're not worth it.
Oh don't come off like you're better than me cause ya aren't. I could dig up plenty of times where you called me names. So pull a chris reeves on your high horse and fuck off. I responded to the thread with my thoughts and I get questioned by some elitist fuck like yourself, such typical of this shit board.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Normally I'd get on your case for being so childish...calling me an idiot and asking if I could read. But you're not worth it.
Oh don't come off like you're better than me cause ya aren't. I could dig up plenty of times where you called me names. So pull a chris reeves on your high horse and fuck off. I responded to the thread with my thoughts and I get questioned by some elitist fuck like yourself, such typical of this shit board.
be nice now children...don't make me come in there!!
Normally I'd get on your case for being so childish...calling me an idiot and asking if I could read. But you're not worth it.
Oh don't come off like you're better than me cause ya aren't. I could dig up plenty of times where you called me names. So pull a chris reeves on your high horse and fuck off. I responded to the thread with my thoughts and I get questioned by some elitist fuck like yourself, such typical of this shit board.
Dude, first off, I'm sure I've never called you names. I've probably hated on you for being a Mets fan....but I'm sure I never called you any names.
And what's with the "elitist fuck" stuff? You're easily one of the angriest people on this board...as evidenced by your arguing with the "elitist fucks" in the Philly 4 fanview thread. And I know where you are coming from....it's lame for people who weren't even at the show to say that the crowds in Europe are better....but ya really need to chill.
Normally I'd get on your case for being so childish...calling me an idiot and asking if I could read. But you're not worth it.
Oh don't come off like you're better than me cause ya aren't. I could dig up plenty of times where you called me names. So pull a chris reeves on your high horse and fuck off. I responded to the thread with my thoughts and I get questioned by some elitist fuck like yourself, such typical of this shit board.
be nice now children...don't make me come in there!!
Normally I'd get on your case for being so childish...calling me an idiot and asking if I could read. But you're not worth it.
Oh don't come off like you're better than me cause ya aren't. I could dig up plenty of times where you called me names. So pull a chris reeves on your high horse and fuck off. I responded to the thread with my thoughts and I get questioned by some elitist fuck like yourself, such typical of this shit board.
Dude, first off, I'm sure I've never called you names. I've probably hated on you for being a Mets fan....but I'm sure I never called you any names.
And what's with the "elitist fuck" stuff? You're easily one of the angriest people on this board...as evidenced by your arguing with the "elitist fucks" in the Philly 4 fanview thread. And I know where you are coming from....it's lame for people who weren't even at the show to say that the crowds in Europe are better....but ya really need to chill.
I'm pissed at you cause you seem to have a problem with me putting night 4 last of the 3 concerts and all. It was a great concert but I wasn't expecting to hear the same yawner of solo like evenflow or black. God forbid they bust out a show like the vic. The europe bs is very elitist by europe fanboys and I'm tired of it. I am far from angry its just that I'm fed up the way the board has become being a board old timer like yourself.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
1. 4 (41 songs, devo cotumes, insulting each other's moms, balloons,pilate,smile,bugs,sweet lew...geez)
2. 1 (2nd encore: daughter,love reign o'er me, black, leash, rvm, r.i.t.f.w.)
3. 3 (great setlist, mike breaks out stairway to heaven solo for crazy mary)
4. 2 (awesome show, flawless, still fourth on this list...that says alot about this run)
what a spectacle, and a what a marathon, and what a way to send a building into history. Not sure if Pearl Jam ever closed down an arena before, but it seemed like they were pros at it.
Yep, PJ closed the old Chicago Stadium in 1994. I was there and there was no spectacle (other than cake in the face - I believe it was on or near Jeff's birthday). It was a longer show with some pre-release Vitalogy songs performed, but no marathon. It was my first PJ show and it was the Vs era and they were red hot on the "alternative scene" so tickets were very difficult to obtain, but we did. A couple days later was the New Regal Theatre show - that's another story.
Oh, and even though the OP asked that only people who attended all 4 shows give their opinion, folks who didn't are offering their views, which I find pretty funny.
Oh, and even though the OP asked that only people who attended all 4 shows give their opinion, folks who didn't are offering their views, which I find pretty funny.
Yeah, that was the intention but I expected others to weigh in. Hopefully a few more who attended all 4 will post before this dies. In any event, although I would have loved seeing all 4 nights (those days are behind me now); I'm happy to see that the 1 show I did get to see was as special for others as it was for me. The reviews for all 4 shows were fantastic so everyone who got to see any of the shows was lucky. I was just curious to hear the opinion of the few who saw all 4.
On a side note, I notice my signature from my last post didn't post, so in case anyone cares, below are the other shows I've seen. I'd say the "vibe" from 10/30 was = or greater than 9/11/98 which was a watershed show because of the "Breath" rally and that was one of the last tours of unrestricted fan club tix (I think all MSG was 10c tix). Many great memories from all shows, but somehow this weekend rose above...
On a side note is there any discussions on how the Eagles/Giants game and the World Series seem to be playing more PJ songs (or similar non-royalty paying PJ sounding songs)?
I only attended nights 3 and 4, but my feelings were captured by merlin401 over in the 10/31 fanview. To paraphrase, night 4 was the greater PJ event, but night 3 was the greater PJ concert.
Night 3>Night 4
I feel very fortunate to have been there for both.
Night 4 (only by a hair) - it was the last show of the N.American tour. Last show for me in 2009. Last show in the spectrum. But after night 1 i thought there wouldnt be THAT many repeats. I thought theyd kill more albums than just 2. I thought they would have played a different song every night by THE WHO. I thought they would change their closers (RITFW, YL, BABA, my generation?) BUT the costumes were great, the stories that ed spoke of, the mom jokes and sweet lew were great! And 3.5 hours!
Night 3 (a close second) - crowd was great. i had the worst seats but the setlist made up for it. highlights were tremor christ, hold on, habit, deep and jeremy with strings.
Night 1 - there were 7 new songs for me! call me crazy, but i liked the backdrop. won the lottery. It was my first time hearing the strings. highlights LEASH, MANKIND, ATY, RIVAL
Night 2 - i forget why this is last.... maybe by default. this was the only show where they played at least one song from every album. highlights GARDEN and PUSH ME PULL ME
Kitchener 9/11/05. Hamilton 9/13/05. Ottawa 9/16/05. Toronto 9/19/05. Toronto 9/5/06. Toronto 10/5/06. Chicago 17/5/06. WP Beach 6/11/08. Tampa 6/12/08. Toronto 8/21/09. Vancouver 9/25/09. The Spectrum x4.
I want to say night three was better in terms of crowd and music played, buuuut... I sat front row center for night 4 so yea, that night was better
In July 2007 Densmore said that he would not rejoin The Doors unless it was fronted by Eddie Vedder. Densmore says, "I play with Jim. If there's someone of that level, OK. I'm not gonna join them with Ian. That's not to diss Ian, he's a good singer - but he's no Jim Morrison. Eddie Vedder? My God, there's a singer."
Night 4 was insanely good. Night 3 was great too. Night 1 & 2 had some great energy all their own.
Nice overall complete package incredible body of work.
Night 4 Our seats were Mike's side near guitar techs first row and we were able to see the setlist before the shows started and needless to say it blew our minds knowing what might get played. And the fact that everything on it i think other than solder of love got played and black got added it was insane. Was nice knowing what was coming next it allowed me to sneak in a quick bathroom break at one point too. Suprisingly knowing the list is just a blue print for what the intended to play didn't ruin it at all. We all have seen them change the songs in an instant. good stuff and a proper send off to a loud venue
Saturday was cool, but Friday was the best overall. Taking energy, setlist, length, and crowd into consideration. The energy in the building Friday exceeded any other night.
I was at nights 2, 3 and 4. Night 2 was good, but not on par with 3 or 4. Night 3 was spectacular, as was 4. I can't really decide which night was better. They were both different. Both brilliant.
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Sammi: Wanna just break up?
pilate is great, the rest, I can do without
I can think of ten songs Id trade for each of those mentioned above-starting with all those yesterdays played on tues, no way played on wed, habit played on fri-just saying
Agree 100 % -- PJ put there heart and soul into all of these shows but especially night 4 and it really paid off !! I was really glad that they were the only ones to play because they deserved to do this last show themselves and provide the best send off to the Spectrum !!!
Can say it enough -- Thank you Pearl Jam for the best four nights !!!
So far I've counted 2 people on this thread (who say they attended all 4 shows) who felt that one of the 1st two shows was best; but the majority of people are pretty evenly split on 10/30 vs. 10/31. I was at Friday's show and it was possibly the best show I've seen (see signature for comparison to previous shows). It was easily the best show I've seen with regard to energy both from the band and the fans (9/11/98's "Breath" rally included). I think Matt & Jeff kept the tempo much higher than usual.
I was extremely jealous of not being able to see Night 4. Final show for the Spectrum, Halloween, rumored Special Guests, expected rarities and longer set, it was even daylight savings for extra post show events. Even though it had all of that going for it, I'd already purchased my Friday ticket and couldn't pull off 2 shows. But from the reviews I've read, Friday night might have been the better of the 2. Beyond some of the "disappointment" some in the crowd might have felt for rarities not heard, absent special guests and a Phillies loss I think there is also the make-up of the crowd to account for.
With the announcement of the 1st 2 of 4 shows, 10c members who didn't get 10c tix probably bought pre-sale or regular tix for those show (Fri. being 1 of them). With the addition of the other 2 shows (Sat. being one) I think might have attracted more casual fans - or even Philadelphians who wanted to see the send-off for the Spectrum and may have been only cursory PJ fans. Just a theory. I'm sure the show was unbelievable and I wish I would have been able to make it. But I am not surprised to read the reviews of Sat's show having less energy - it would have been tough to out-do Friday's ultra high level intensity.
Normally I'd get on your case for being so childish...calling me an idiot and asking if I could read. But you're not worth it.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Exactly.....we got No Way, we got Habit, and a bunch of rarities throughout the week. I prefer those songs to the "rarities" played on Saturday as well. But I was happy to hear them when I did and happy to get what we got on Saturday. The 4th show had more than enough rarities for people who are into that and more than enough "hits" for people who are into that.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Oh don't come off like you're better than me cause ya aren't. I could dig up plenty of times where you called me names. So pull a chris reeves on your high horse and fuck off. I responded to the thread with my thoughts and I get questioned by some elitist fuck like yourself, such typical of this shit board.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
be nice now children...don't make me come in there!!
Dude, first off, I'm sure I've never called you names. I've probably hated on you for being a Mets fan....but I'm sure I never called you any names.
And what's with the "elitist fuck" stuff? You're easily one of the angriest people on this board...as evidenced by your arguing with the "elitist fucks" in the Philly 4 fanview thread. And I know where you are coming from....it's lame for people who weren't even at the show to say that the crowds in Europe are better....but ya really need to chill.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Don't worry, we're done.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
2. 1 (2nd encore: daughter,love reign o'er me, black, leash, rvm, r.i.t.f.w.)
3. 3 (great setlist, mike breaks out stairway to heaven solo for crazy mary)
4. 2 (awesome show, flawless, still fourth on this list...that says alot about this run)
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Yep, PJ closed the old Chicago Stadium in 1994. I was there and there was no spectacle (other than cake in the face - I believe it was on or near Jeff's birthday). It was a longer show with some pre-release Vitalogy songs performed, but no marathon. It was my first PJ show and it was the Vs era and they were red hot on the "alternative scene" so tickets were very difficult to obtain, but we did. A couple days later was the New Regal Theatre show - that's another story.
Oh, and even though the OP asked that only people who attended all 4 shows give their opinion, folks who didn't are offering their views, which I find pretty funny.
Yeah, that was the intention but I expected others to weigh in. Hopefully a few more who attended all 4 will post before this dies. In any event, although I would have loved seeing all 4 nights (those days are behind me now); I'm happy to see that the 1 show I did get to see was as special for others as it was for me. The reviews for all 4 shows were fantastic so everyone who got to see any of the shows was lucky. I was just curious to hear the opinion of the few who saw all 4.
On a side note, I notice my signature from my last post didn't post, so in case anyone cares, below are the other shows I've seen. I'd say the "vibe" from 10/30 was = or greater than 9/11/98 which was a watershed show because of the "Breath" rally and that was one of the last tours of unrestricted fan club tix (I think all MSG was 10c tix). Many great memories from all shows, but somehow this weekend rose above...
On a side note is there any discussions on how the Eagles/Giants game and the World Series seem to be playing more PJ songs (or similar non-royalty paying PJ sounding songs)?
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9/28/96 Randall's Island - 8/29/98 Camden - 9/11/98 NYC - 8/23/00 & 8/24/00 Jones Beach - 4/30/03 Uniondale - 7/5/03 Camden - 7/8/03 & 7/9/03 NYC - 7/14/03 Holmdel - 10/3/05 Philly - 5/28/06 Camden - 6/1/06 & 6/2/06 E Rutherford - 06/24/08 NYC, 10/30/09 - Philly
Night 3>Night 4
I feel very fortunate to have been there for both.
03: 7-11 Mansfield 3
04: 9-28 Boston 1
08: 6-28 Mansfield 1
09: 10-30 Philly 3, 10-31 Philly 4
10: 5-15 Hartford, 5-17 Boston
11: 9-3 Alpine Valley, 9-4 Alpine Valley
13: 10-15 Worcester 1, 10-16 Worcester 2, 10-25 Hartford
16: 4-29 Philly 2, 5-1 MSG 1, 8-5 Fenway 1, 8-7 Fenway 2
18: 9-2 Fenway 1, 9-4 Fenway 2
21: 9-26 Ohana
22: 5-6 LA, 5-7 LA, 5-16 Fresno
EV SOLO: 8-2-08 Boston 2, 6-8-09 Albany 1, 6-15-11 Providence, 6-16-11 Boston, 6-18-11 Hartford, 11-1-12 Las Vegas
Tres Mts: 3-27-11 Boston
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This week was just incredible.
Night 4 (only by a hair) - it was the last show of the N.American tour. Last show for me in 2009. Last show in the spectrum. But after night 1 i thought there wouldnt be THAT many repeats. I thought theyd kill more albums than just 2. I thought they would have played a different song every night by THE WHO. I thought they would change their closers (RITFW, YL, BABA, my generation?) BUT the costumes were great, the stories that ed spoke of, the mom jokes and sweet lew were great! And 3.5 hours!
Night 3 (a close second) - crowd was great. i had the worst seats but the setlist made up for it. highlights were tremor christ, hold on, habit, deep and jeremy with strings.
Night 1 - there were 7 new songs for me! call me crazy, but i liked the backdrop. won the lottery. It was my first time hearing the strings. highlights LEASH, MANKIND, ATY, RIVAL
Night 2 - i forget why this is last.... maybe by default. this was the only show where they played at least one song from every album. highlights GARDEN and PUSH ME PULL ME
SEAT LOCATION
NIGHT1 - lottery SEC103 row 9
NIGHT2 - SEC214 row 13
NIGHT3 - livenation tix SEC303 row 6
NIGHT4 - SEC315 row 11
light years, in hiding, parting ways, tremor christ, opening the 2nd encore with whipping = cat's meow.
i feel so lucky to have been a part of this whole week!
you forgot In My Tree (with drum intro if I may add)!!!!!
untitled/mfc and present tense was great as well.
to me it was 3...then 4, 2, 1 all tied.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Nice overall complete package incredible body of work.
Night 4 Our seats were Mike's side near guitar techs first row and we were able to see the setlist before the shows started and needless to say it blew our minds knowing what might get played. And the fact that everything on it i think other than solder of love got played and black got added it was insane. Was nice knowing what was coming next it allowed me to sneak in a quick bathroom break at one point too. Suprisingly knowing the list is just a blue print for what the intended to play didn't ruin it at all. We all have seen them change the songs in an instant. good stuff and a proper send off to a loud venue