By The People: The Election of Barack Obama (2009)

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    keeponrockin wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What other country would vote into office the enemy?
    Just by his name alone (of course there are other reasons) he should not have been voted into the presidency or any other office in this country.
    Just by his name alone....

    JOHN Wilkes Booth killed Lincoln. Should we not vote in people named John either?


    by this rationale, this must be why JOHN mccain lost the election.... :D

    by the way isn't Barak the sidekick on Space Ghost Coast to Coast??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    aerial wrote:
    What other country would vote into office the enemy?
    Just by his name alone (of course there are other reasons) he should not have been voted into the presidency or any other office in this country. Politically correctness is going to be the down fall of this country, if it’s not too late already.


    NoK wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.

    Who knew little mermaid was a racist.

    Why do I get the feeling aerial won't be back to defend her/his position on the post made just because it has been rejected as it should be.

    I dare you to comeback and defend yourself and your post.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    g under p wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What other country would vote into office the enemy?
    Just by his name alone (of course there are other reasons) he should not have been voted into the presidency or any other office in this country. Politically correctness is going to be the down fall of this country, if it’s not too late already.


    NoK wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.

    Who knew little mermaid was a racist.

    Why do I get the feeling aerial won't be back to defend her/his position on the post made just because it has been rejected as it should be.

    I dare you to comeback and defend yourself and your post.

    Peace
    i just checked my magic 8-ball and it said "signs point to no".
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    haha my 8-ball rules! has never ever been wrong.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    based on his name alone? what does that have to do with anything?[/quote]

    Haven't you heard? Everyone with an Arabic name is your enemy. Hell I'm your enemy for having a weird name too.[/quote]
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.[/quote]



    You must not get around much if you think my statement is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. Why is it people always use race when they don't agree?....My statement had nothing to do with race....
    This is my point .....when the cowboys and indians were fighting do you think the cowboys would have voted to have an indian cheif as there leader...and the indians would not have voted John Wayne as there leader....please don't start with the cowboys massacuring the indians because I think that was an atrocity also...I'm just saying what the he** are people thinking these days...
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    aerial wrote:
    based on his name alone? what does that have to do with anything?

    Haven't you heard? Everyone with an Arabic name is your enemy. Hell I'm your enemy for having a weird name too.[/quote]
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.[/quote]



    You must not get around much if you think my statement is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. Why is it people always use race when they don't agree?....My statement had nothing to do with race....
    This is my point .....when the cowboys and indians were fighting do you think the cowboys would have voted to have an indian cheif as there leader...and the indians would not have voted John Wayne as there leader....please don't start with the cowboys massacuring the indians because I think that was an atrocity also...I'm just saying what the he** are people thinking these days...[/quote]

    you say you are not a bigot, but your rational is very similar to what a bigot would say. the man has an arabic name, but he is not arabic and he is not a muslim, and he is not your enemy. i do not see how voting for a man named barack hussein obama is a bad thing. your example of cowboys and indians is off base. the indians were not considered citizens and thus were ineligible to be a leader of anything other than their tribe. also no indian tribe would have accepted let alone "voted" for a white man to be their leader. they were not even allowed to vote in those times.....

    your post makes me think you are saying that we should not have voted for an african american because he is different and therefore incapable of being a leader, let alone a president. you keep digging yourself a deeper hole and i guarantee your posts in this thread are making people lose even more respect for you and your point of view.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    aerial wrote:
    based on his name alone? what does that have to do with anything?

    Haven't you heard? Everyone with an Arabic name is your enemy. Hell I'm your enemy for having a weird name too.[/quote]
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.[/quote]



    You must not get around much if you think my statement is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. Why is it people always use race when they don't agree?....My statement had nothing to do with race....
    This is my point .....when the cowboys and indians were fighting do you think the cowboys would have voted to have an indian cheif as there leader...and the indians would not have voted John Wayne as there leader....please don't start with the cowboys massacuring the indians because I think that was an atrocity also...I'm just saying what the he** are people thinking these days...[/quote]



    by the way, do you plan on watching this program? i think you should because you might learn something.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    based on his name alone? what does that have to do with anything?
    Haven't you heard? Everyone with an Arabic name is your enemy. Hell I'm your enemy for having a weird name too.
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.


    aerial....
    You must not get around much if you think my statement is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. Why is it people always use race when they don't agree?....My statement had nothing to do with race....
    This is my point .....when the cowboys and indians were fighting do you think the cowboys would have voted to have an indian cheif as there leader...and the indians would not have voted John Wayne as there leader....please don't start with the cowboys massacuring the indians because I think that was an atrocity also...I'm just saying what the he** are people thinking these days...


    gst27...
    you say you are not a bigot, but your rational is very similar to what a bigot would say. the man has an arabic name, but he is not arabic and he is not a muslim, and he is not your enemy. i do not see how voting for a man named barack hussein obama is a bad thing. your example of cowboys and indians is off base. the indians were not considered citizens and thus were ineligible to be a leader of anything other than their tribe. also no indian tribe would have accepted let alone "voted" for a white man to be their leader. they were not even allowed to vote in those times.....

    your post makes me think you are saying that we should not have voted for an african american because he is different and therefore incapable of being a leader, let alone a president. you keep digging yourself a deeper hole and i guarantee your posts in this thread are making people lose even more respect for you and your point of view.

    I'm glad aerial replied to what was posted. However, I was going to say the same thing she is digging herself a deeper hole by the comments she has made. Which in turn is making me lose any confidence in anything she has to say as we move forward, please try again aerial. As it stands right now I have no respect for whatever it is she has to say.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    based on his name alone? what does that have to do with anything?

    Haven't you heard? Everyone with an Arabic name is your enemy. Hell I'm your enemy for having a weird name too.
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.[/quote]



    You must not get around much if you think my statement is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. Why is it people always use race when they don't agree?....My statement had nothing to do with race....
    This is my point .....when the cowboys and indians were fighting do you think the cowboys would have voted to have an indian cheif as there leader...and the indians would not have voted John Wayne as there leader....please don't start with the cowboys massacuring the indians because I think that was an atrocity also...I'm just saying what the he** are people thinking these days...[/quote]

    you say you are not a bigot, but your rational is very similar to what a bigot would say. the man has an arabic name, but he is not arabic and he is not a muslim, and he is not your enemy. i do not see how voting for a man named barack hussein obama is a bad thing. your example of cowboys and indians is off base. the indians were not considered citizens and thus were ineligible to be a leader of anything other than their tribe. also no indian tribe would have accepted let alone "voted" for a white man to be their leader. they were not even allowed to vote in those times.....

    your post makes me think you are saying that we should not have voted for an african american because he is different and therefore incapable of being a leader, let alone a president. you keep digging yourself a deeper hole and i guarantee your posts in this thread are making people lose even more respect for you and your point of view.[/quote]

    Geez ....I never said a damn thing about african Americans....see ..It just proves my point.....if you don't get it, turn it into a race issue!......would you get it if I used Dogs and Cats?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    aerial wrote:

    Geez ....I never said a damn thing about african Americans....see ..It just proves my point.....if you don't get it, turn it into a race issue!......would you get it if I used Dogs and Cats?
    the only way your analogy makes sense is if your'e talking about skin color, because Obama is not arabic.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    based on his name alone? what does that have to do with anything?

    Haven't you heard? Everyone with an Arabic name is your enemy. Hell I'm your enemy for having a weird name too.

    TA....
    I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.

    Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.


    aerial....
    You must not get around much if you think my statement is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. Why is it people always use race when they don't agree?....My statement had nothing to do with race....
    This is my point .....when the cowboys and indians were fighting do you think the cowboys would have voted to have an indian cheif as there leader...and the indians would not have voted John Wayne as there leader....please don't start with the cowboys massacuring the indians because I think that was an atrocity also...I'm just saying what the he** are people thinking these days...

    gst27..
    you say you are not a bigot, but your rational is very similar to what a bigot would say. the man has an arabic name, but he is not arabic and he is not a muslim, and he is not your enemy. i do not see how voting for a man named barack hussein obama is a bad thing. your example of cowboys and indians is off base. the indians were not considered citizens and thus were ineligible to be a leader of anything other than their tribe. also no indian tribe would have accepted let alone "voted" for a white man to be their leader. they were not even allowed to vote in those times.....

    your post makes me think you are saying that we should not have voted for an african american because he is different and therefore incapable of being a leader, let alone a president. you keep digging yourself a deeper hole and i guarantee your posts in this thread are making people lose even more respect for you and your point of view.

    aerial wrote:
    What other country would vote into office the enemy?
    Just by his name alone (of course there are other reasons) he should not have been voted into the presidency or any other office in this country. Politically correctness is going to be the down fall of this country, if it’s not too late already.


    aerial
    Geez ....I never said a damn thing about african Americans....see ..It just proves my point.....if you don't get it, turn it into a race issue!......would you get it if I used Dogs and Cats?

    You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.

    Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.

    Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.

    Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    aerial wrote:
    You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.

    Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.

    Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
    Except he's not Muslim...
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    aerial wrote:
    You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.

    Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.

    Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....

    Therefore the said implication towards African Americans, you have no point. He's NOT a Muslim it's just his name but it appears you have a problem with it so again what the hell is your point. If you dislike the man for his policies is understandble but for his name comes from a bigoted point of view. That's the only point I therefore see.

    The hole you're digging sadly gets deeper.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    aerial wrote:
    You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.

    Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.

    Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....

    you have no point. you are bringing all of this on yourself by rehashing talking points which obviously confuses you and causes you to post ridiculous nonsense. you have said repeatedly that his name alone should keep him from being elected. i want you to clarify that statement.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Commy wrote:
    i'm all for hope and optimism, i voted for obama.....and i still believe something good can come from his presidency, but i'm trying real hard to find something positive about it right now.

    Edward Norton calls this historic? why ? because of obamas skin color? maybe that is historic. but that means fuckall if he doesn't DO anything for the majority while he's president.

    I think what was interesting about this election, and possibly historic, is that it's the first time we've had a consensus president in 20 years. despite what fox news is trying to tell everyone, obama had the kind of support not seen for any president since reagan. think about it... bush sr loses to clinton and the republicans are pissed becos ross perot probably cost bush the election... then clinton beats dole (another republican scion) again with perot in opposition... gore loses (or not) to bush in pretty scandalous fashion and nader probably swung the scales... then again bush edges out kerry amid more voter fraud allegations.

    not only did obama won, he won clean. with the kind of support nobody would ever have guessed possible prior to election day. did anyone think obama could carry indiana? he didnt just win, he won convincingly in a way we havent seen as a country for 2 decades. that's why it's an election worth documenting... how did ge do it?
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    g under p wrote:
    Therefore the said implication towards African Americans, you have no point. He's NOT a Muslim it's just his name but it appears you have a problem with it so again what the hell is your point. If you dislike the man for his policies is understandble but for his name comes from a bigoted point of view. That's the only point I therefore see.

    The hole you're digging sadly gets deeper.

    Peace

    Not to mention the fact that she thinks all Muslims are her enemy is disturbing. Good luck with that little mermaid.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    NoK wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Therefore the said implication towards African Americans, you have no point. He's NOT a Muslim it's just his name but it appears you have a problem with it so again what the hell is your point. If you dislike the man for his policies is understandble but for his name comes from a bigoted point of view. That's the only point I therefore see.

    The hole you're digging sadly gets deeper.

    Peace

    Not to mention the fact that she thinks all Muslims are her enemy is disturbing. Good luck with that little mermaid.

    True...as if ALL Muslims are the enemy did she ever mention an enemy we had within this country...Timothy McVeigh? Odd thing, after the bombing they were looking for *the enemy type* until reality hit our authorities.

    I'm really trying hard to get a honest understanding of her, I'm TRYING!

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    keeponrockin wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.

    Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.

    Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
    Except he's not Muslim...

    He bows to the Saudi King
    He celebrates Ramadan, yet did nothing to celebrate the Traditional National Day of Prayer
    Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund

    If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    edited November 2009
    aerial wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.

    Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.

    Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
    Except he's not Muslim...

    He bows to the Saudi King
    He celebrates Ramadan, yet did nothing to celebrate the Traditional National Day of Prayer
    Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund

    If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is

    OMG..this is getting disgusting and sickening.

    ....And the hole gets DEEPER. WOW! :shock:

    I need some time to comprehend this.

    Peace
    Post edited by g under p on
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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