based on his name alone? what does that have to do with anything?
Haven't you heard? Everyone with an Arabic name is your enemy. Hell I'm your enemy for having a weird name too.
TA....
I know you already know this, but it's a name to be proud of, and denigrating anyone based on name alone, is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort.
Take comfort in the fact that most people do not think like her, and don't waste one second of your time responding to the ignorance that she consistantly displays.
aerial....
You must not get around much if you think my statement is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. Why is it people always use race when they don't agree?....My statement had nothing to do with race....
This is my point .....when the cowboys and indians were fighting do you think the cowboys would have voted to have an indian cheif as there leader...and the indians would not have voted John Wayne as there leader....please don't start with the cowboys massacuring the indians because I think that was an atrocity also...I'm just saying what the he** are people thinking these days...
gst27..
you say you are not a bigot, but your rational is very similar to what a bigot would say. the man has an arabic name, but he is not arabic and he is not a muslim, and he is not your enemy. i do not see how voting for a man named barack hussein obama is a bad thing. your example of cowboys and indians is off base. the indians were not considered citizens and thus were ineligible to be a leader of anything other than their tribe. also no indian tribe would have accepted let alone "voted" for a white man to be their leader. they were not even allowed to vote in those times.....
your post makes me think you are saying that we should not have voted for an african american because he is different and therefore incapable of being a leader, let alone a president. you keep digging yourself a deeper hole and i guarantee your posts in this thread are making people lose even more respect for you and your point of view.
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What other country would vote into office the enemy?
Just by his name alone (of course there are other reasons) he should not have been voted into the presidency or any other office in this country. Politically correctness is going to be the down fall of this country, if it’s not too late already.
aerial
Geez ....I never said a damn thing about african Americans....see ..It just proves my point.....if you don't get it, turn it into a race issue!......would you get it if I used Dogs and Cats?
You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
Except he's not Muslim...
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You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
Therefore the said implication towards African Americans, you have no point. He's NOT a Muslim it's just his name but it appears you have a problem with it so again what the hell is your point. If you dislike the man for his policies is understandble but for his name comes from a bigoted point of view. That's the only point I therefore see.
The hole you're digging sadly gets deeper.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
you have no point. you are bringing all of this on yourself by rehashing talking points which obviously confuses you and causes you to post ridiculous nonsense. you have said repeatedly that his name alone should keep him from being elected. i want you to clarify that statement.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
i'm all for hope and optimism, i voted for obama.....and i still believe something good can come from his presidency, but i'm trying real hard to find something positive about it right now.
Edward Norton calls this historic? why ? because of obamas skin color? maybe that is historic. but that means fuckall if he doesn't DO anything for the majority while he's president.
I think what was interesting about this election, and possibly historic, is that it's the first time we've had a consensus president in 20 years. despite what fox news is trying to tell everyone, obama had the kind of support not seen for any president since reagan. think about it... bush sr loses to clinton and the republicans are pissed becos ross perot probably cost bush the election... then clinton beats dole (another republican scion) again with perot in opposition... gore loses (or not) to bush in pretty scandalous fashion and nader probably swung the scales... then again bush edges out kerry amid more voter fraud allegations.
not only did obama won, he won clean. with the kind of support nobody would ever have guessed possible prior to election day. did anyone think obama could carry indiana? he didnt just win, he won convincingly in a way we havent seen as a country for 2 decades. that's why it's an election worth documenting... how did ge do it?
Therefore the said implication towards African Americans, you have no point. He's NOT a Muslim it's just his name but it appears you have a problem with it so again what the hell is your point. If you dislike the man for his policies is understandble but for his name comes from a bigoted point of view. That's the only point I therefore see.
The hole you're digging sadly gets deeper.
Peace
Not to mention the fact that she thinks all Muslims are her enemy is disturbing. Good luck with that little mermaid.
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Therefore the said implication towards African Americans, you have no point. He's NOT a Muslim it's just his name but it appears you have a problem with it so again what the hell is your point. If you dislike the man for his policies is understandble but for his name comes from a bigoted point of view. That's the only point I therefore see.
The hole you're digging sadly gets deeper.
Peace
Not to mention the fact that she thinks all Muslims are her enemy is disturbing. Good luck with that little mermaid.
True...as if ALL Muslims are the enemy did she ever mention an enemy we had within this country...Timothy McVeigh? Odd thing, after the bombing they were looking for *the enemy type* until reality hit our authorities.
I'm really trying hard to get a honest understanding of her, I'm TRYING!
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
Except he's not Muslim...
He bows to the Saudi King
He celebrates Ramadan, yet did nothing to celebrate the Traditional National Day of Prayer
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
Except he's not Muslim...
He bows to the Saudi King
He celebrates Ramadan, yet did nothing to celebrate the Traditional National Day of Prayer
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
OMG..this is getting disgusting and sickening.
....And the hole gets DEEPER. WOW! :shock:
I need some time to comprehend this.
Peace
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
?? i also don't see how that means he celebrates it but like i said, why should it matter? just like the Christian bible there is violence but there is also a message of being good to one another. we need to realize other opinions exist other than our own
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
and he gives billions-trillions to hawkish old white men
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
you got that right
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
?? i also don't see how that means he celebrates it but like i said, why should it matter? just like the Christian bible there is violence but there is also a message of being good to one another. we need to realize other opinions exist other than our own
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
and he gives billions-trillions to hawkish old white men why provide funding for foreigners when America is in dire straits ?
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
you got that right
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
Except he's not Muslim...
He bows to the Saudi King
He celebrates Ramadan, yet did nothing to celebrate the Traditional National Day of Prayer
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
Ramadan, the way its been explained to me, actually seems like a pretty decent thing. You fast so you understand what it's like to be poor and hungry, and be thankful for what you have. Sounds like a decent holiday to me. I'm not Christian, but I celebrate Christmas. I'm not Serbian-Orthodox, but I celebrate one of their holidays with my best friend because it means a lot to his family that I'm there.
I'd rather the president be an Atheist, and not be stirred by illogical fairy-tales. However, as long as the religion is kept out of policies, I don't care if they worship the flying spaghetti monster.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
?? i also don't see how that means he celebrates it but like i said, why should it matter? just like the Christian bible there is violence but there is also a message of being good to one another. we need to realize other opinions exist other than our own
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
and he gives billions-trillions to hawkish old white men why provide funding for foreigners when America is in dire straits ?
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
you got that right
"bush is history so does not apply" did you really just say that?? do you think that his presidency might have something to do with the situation we are in right now?? how can you dismiss what he has done.
the traditional day of prayer is a silly and outdated concept. if people have a relationship with their god should they not pray every day adn leave the rest of us out of it??
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Is it possible for Obama to actually get a bad picture of him taken? He has got to be the most singularly attractive president I have seen in my entire life. Pictures of him just make you happy to be alive. Pictures of him might just put the antidepressant industry out of business.
Secondly, I have never been happy with his let's pursue the Afghanistan war thing, although I think it makes a lot more sense than invading New Guinea. I mean, Iraq. Either country capable of launching a nuclear attack against us within 45 minutes and neither country having a thing to do with al Qaeda at the time. But whatever. We all want to be The Savior. Although I myself would rather not sprout a beard.
Thirdly, I think Obama is doing a dandy job. Yes, Afghanistan is misguided. But at least you can connect some dots there. Still, it's not enough dots to render a stunning likeness of Mr. January, so...best left unsolved, as they say. Obama's done more in his first 30 days in office than Bush did in his last 4 years. And Obama's got a lot of irons in the fire, waiting to heat up just right. I am more impressed with him than I ever dreamed I'd be. I like the direction we're headed under his leadership.
I also liked the Bizarro comic strip today, with the year's scariest things, including Michael Jackson's doctor and people who are afraid of affordable health care.
Also, I like Obama's Secretary of State. A lot. Another good choice. So, all in all, very few complaints and lots to like. We could have done a lot worse. We could have gone with a guy that literally rolled the dice in his Veep pick and could have ended up with Bozo the Clown in stilettos a heartbeat away from the presidency. It's a day late for a good Halloween scare, but the thought does a good job none the less.
kind of interesting how we've (Pearl Jam fans) gone from the sensitive equal rights pro-choice folks who listened to Ten on our walkmen back in High School to the politically self-righteous misogynist a-holes that think it's funny to take a picture of two d-bags giving beer to a cardboard cutout of one of the most accomplished women in US History (and the wife of our hero from back in the day when we were listening to Ten on our walkmen)...
didn't those songs about mistreated women from their early albums stick with you?
didn't we just kind of put up with all those jocks who listened to Pearl Jam (and Nirvana and Soundgarden and Alice in Chains) because they were getting a good message out and kicking misogynist rock in the b-a-l-l-s?
it's not about what others think - it's about treating them with respect regardless.
this is what you need to digest in all of this ... aerial represents a large portion of the american population - her intolerance and ignorance towards muslims is founded on fear - something the powers that be use all the time ...
it's all part of a larger issue related to education and the prosperity divisions
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He bows to the Saudi King
He celebrates Ramadan, yet did nothing to celebrate the Traditional National Day of Prayer
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
this is what you need to digest in all of this ... aerial represents a large portion of the american population - her intolerance and ignorance towards muslims is founded on fear - something the powers that be use all the time ...
it's all part of a larger issue related to education and the prosperity divisions
All I can say is there's a line from an old James Brown song *Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothing* I think it goes sometihg like this.
Like a dull knife just ain't cuttin'
You're just talkin' a loud and sayin' nothing
Just sayin' nothing, just sayin' nothing
To all 3 of her points so fucking what,....what does that have to do with his name and him becoming the enemy. Whether you like it or not he's my President and your President whether you voted for or not....I didn't he's going to be YOUR President for the next 3+ years.
If Joe Biden was President had the exact same policies would you have a problem with his name and call him the enemy too?
Just today some Congresswoman Virginia Foxx said,....
"I believe that the greatest fear that we all should have ... to our freedom comes from this room, this very room, and what may happen later this week in terms of a tax increase bill masquerading as a health care bill," she said. "I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country."
When is this talking ((((LOUD)))) and saying nothing going to stop?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
and he gives billions-trillions to hawkish old white men why provide funding for foreigners when America is in dire straits ?
yeah, we could be spending that money making sure our citizens get health care... oh wait, that'd be socialist. we can't spend our money on americans, everything we try to do to benefit americans you scream about socialism. when he gives foreign aid, he's a muslim; when he spends money at home, he's socialist. why dont you just get over it and accept the fact that you and your ilk have fallen out of favor in this country. we will not be hampered by the ignorant and bigoted or ruled by their fears anymore. you're never going to get your glenn beck approved candidate here becos his views are out of touch with the rest of america. it took a long time, but thank god, we made it. now you're just whining becos the tables have turned on you and your party.
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
and he gives billions-trillions to hawkish old white men why provide funding for foreigners when America is in dire straits ?
yeah, we could be spending that money making sure our citizens get health care... oh wait, that'd be socialist. we can't spend our money on americans, everything we try to do to benefit americans you scream about socialism. when he gives foreign aid, he's a muslim; when he spends money at home, he's socialist.why dont you just get over it and accept the fact that you and your ilk have fallen out of favor in this country. we will not be hampered by the ignorant and bigoted or ruled by their fears anymore. you're never going to get your glenn beck approved candidate here becos his views are out of touch with the rest of america. it took a long time, but thank god, we made it. now you're just whining becos the tables have turned on you and your party.
Last nights elections proves you WRONG....
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
and he gives billions-trillions to hawkish old white men why provide funding for foreigners when America is in dire straits ?
yeah, we could be spending that money making sure our citizens get health care... oh wait, that'd be socialist. we can't spend our money on americans, everything we try to do to benefit americans you scream about socialism. when he gives foreign aid, he's a muslim; when he spends money at home, he's socialist.why dont you just get over it and accept the fact that you and your ilk have fallen out of favor in this country. we will not be hampered by the ignorant and bigoted or ruled by their fears anymore. you're never going to get your glenn beck approved candidate here becos his views are out of touch with the rest of america. it took a long time, but thank god, we made it. now you're just whining becos the tables have turned on you and your party.
Last nights elections proves you WRONG....
on the one hand, I was gonna say I'm not as confident about soulsinging's assertion as he is, but on the other hand, what do last night's elections really prove? moderate Republicans won governorships in NJ and VA, which is something that happens quite commonly even in liberal New England states. and the Conservative Party candidate in upstate NY who was supported by lunatics such as Sarah Palin fell to defeat after the moderate Republican dropped out and endorsed the Democrat.
and i also feel the need to call you out for saying Barack Obama's name alone proves he's "the enemy". it's not even a Muslim name even when you include his middle name Hussein, and it wouldn't matter if it was Muslim in origin... it's just a name and Muslims as a group are not our enemy! Barack and Hussein are common arabic names predating Islam and Obama is of Kenyan origin. maybe you have a problem with the word "algebra" too? maybe you have a problem with other names of semitic origin like "Michael" and "Rachel"? yes, he bowed to the Saudi King... I'm pretty sure every President since FDR has done that. and unless we all stop driving cars or figure out a way to fuel our transportation needs ourselves, our Presidents will continue to do that. not that I support it... but it has nothing to do with Islam. the Saudi regime is just vile.
yeah, we could be spending that money making sure our citizens get health care... oh wait, that'd be socialist. we can't spend our money on americans, everything we try to do to benefit americans you scream about socialism. when he gives foreign aid, he's a muslim; when he spends money at home, he's socialist.why dont you just get over it and accept the fact that you and your ilk have fallen out of favor in this country. we will not be hampered by the ignorant and bigoted or ruled by their fears anymore. you're never going to get your glenn beck approved candidate here becos his views are out of touch with the rest of america. it took a long time, but thank god, we made it. now you're just whining becos the tables have turned on you and your party.
Last nights elections proves you WRONG....
on the one hand, I was gonna say I'm not as confident about soulsinging's assertion as he is, but on the other hand, what do last night's elections really prove? moderate Republicans won governorships in NJ and VA, which is something that happens quite commonly even in liberal New England states. and the Conservative Party candidate in upstate NY who was supported by lunatics such as Sarah Palin fell to defeat after the moderate Republican dropped out and endorsed the Democrat.
exactly what i was thinking. a few moderate republicans won governorships in states that often go republican and were even a surprise to find in the obama camp in the first place. hardly a sign of some ground swell of support for the lunatic right that aerial and Glenn Beck want to believe is out there.
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You are correct you may not have mentioned African Americans but it's the implication you did make by the statement that started all this. That being Obama being the enemy and based on his name alone Implies you're speaking of African Americans. You aware they're whites with Muslin/Arabic names, right.
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Your statment made this an race issue and now you're being called on such statement.
Yes I am aware that it is not just Blacks that have that name......A Muslim name....which is my point....
Therefore the said implication towards African Americans, you have no point. He's NOT a Muslim it's just his name but it appears you have a problem with it so again what the hell is your point. If you dislike the man for his policies is understandble but for his name comes from a bigoted point of view. That's the only point I therefore see.
The hole you're digging sadly gets deeper.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
you have no point. you are bringing all of this on yourself by rehashing talking points which obviously confuses you and causes you to post ridiculous nonsense. you have said repeatedly that his name alone should keep him from being elected. i want you to clarify that statement.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I think what was interesting about this election, and possibly historic, is that it's the first time we've had a consensus president in 20 years. despite what fox news is trying to tell everyone, obama had the kind of support not seen for any president since reagan. think about it... bush sr loses to clinton and the republicans are pissed becos ross perot probably cost bush the election... then clinton beats dole (another republican scion) again with perot in opposition... gore loses (or not) to bush in pretty scandalous fashion and nader probably swung the scales... then again bush edges out kerry amid more voter fraud allegations.
not only did obama won, he won clean. with the kind of support nobody would ever have guessed possible prior to election day. did anyone think obama could carry indiana? he didnt just win, he won convincingly in a way we havent seen as a country for 2 decades. that's why it's an election worth documenting... how did ge do it?
Not to mention the fact that she thinks all Muslims are her enemy is disturbing. Good luck with that little mermaid.
True...as if ALL Muslims are the enemy did she ever mention an enemy we had within this country...Timothy McVeigh? Odd thing, after the bombing they were looking for *the enemy type* until reality hit our authorities.
I'm really trying hard to get a honest understanding of her, I'm TRYING!
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
He bows to the Saudi King
He celebrates Ramadan, yet did nothing to celebrate the Traditional National Day of Prayer
Now Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
If it walks like a duck...talks like a duck.......maybe it is
OMG..this is getting disgusting and sickening.
....And the hole gets DEEPER. WOW! :shock:
I need some time to comprehend this.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
the Bush family is pretty cozy with them, too.
while i could care less if he celebrated Ramadan, this is like the school song nonsense
tell me what was so horrible about what he said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R4KfYuDrvU
?? i also don't see how that means he celebrates it but like i said, why should it matter? just like the Christian bible there is violence but there is also a message of being good to one another. we need to realize other opinions exist other than our own
and he gives billions-trillions to hawkish old white men
you got that right
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Ramadan, the way its been explained to me, actually seems like a pretty decent thing. You fast so you understand what it's like to be poor and hungry, and be thankful for what you have. Sounds like a decent holiday to me. I'm not Christian, but I celebrate Christmas. I'm not Serbian-Orthodox, but I celebrate one of their holidays with my best friend because it means a lot to his family that I'm there.
I'd rather the president be an Atheist, and not be stirred by illogical fairy-tales. However, as long as the religion is kept out of policies, I don't care if they worship the flying spaghetti monster.
"bush is history so does not apply" did you really just say that?? do you think that his presidency might have something to do with the situation we are in right now?? how can you dismiss what he has done.
the traditional day of prayer is a silly and outdated concept. if people have a relationship with their god should they not pray every day adn leave the rest of us out of it??
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Secondly, I have never been happy with his let's pursue the Afghanistan war thing, although I think it makes a lot more sense than invading New Guinea. I mean, Iraq. Either country capable of launching a nuclear attack against us within 45 minutes and neither country having a thing to do with al Qaeda at the time. But whatever. We all want to be The Savior. Although I myself would rather not sprout a beard.
Thirdly, I think Obama is doing a dandy job. Yes, Afghanistan is misguided. But at least you can connect some dots there. Still, it's not enough dots to render a stunning likeness of Mr. January, so...best left unsolved, as they say. Obama's done more in his first 30 days in office than Bush did in his last 4 years. And Obama's got a lot of irons in the fire, waiting to heat up just right. I am more impressed with him than I ever dreamed I'd be. I like the direction we're headed under his leadership.
I also liked the Bizarro comic strip today, with the year's scariest things, including Michael Jackson's doctor and people who are afraid of affordable health care.
Also, I like Obama's Secretary of State. A lot. Another good choice.
didn't those songs about mistreated women from their early albums stick with you?
didn't we just kind of put up with all those jocks who listened to Pearl Jam (and Nirvana and Soundgarden and Alice in Chains) because they were getting a good message out and kicking misogynist rock in the b-a-l-l-s?
it's not about what others think - it's about treating them with respect regardless.
this is what you need to digest in all of this ... aerial represents a large portion of the american population - her intolerance and ignorance towards muslims is founded on fear - something the powers that be use all the time ...
it's all part of a larger issue related to education and the prosperity divisions
All I can say is there's a line from an old James Brown song *Talkin' Loud and Sayin' Nothing* I think it goes sometihg like this.
Like a dull knife just ain't cuttin'
You're just talkin' a loud and sayin' nothing
Just sayin' nothing, just sayin' nothing
To all 3 of her points so fucking what,....what does that have to do with his name and him becoming the enemy. Whether you like it or not he's my President and your President whether you voted for or not....I didn't he's going to be YOUR President for the next 3+ years.
If Joe Biden was President had the exact same policies would you have a problem with his name and call him the enemy too?
Just today some Congresswoman Virginia Foxx said,....
Republican congresswoman says Democratic health overhaul plans scarier than any terrorist
When is this talking ((((LOUD)))) and saying nothing going to stop?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
yeah, we could be spending that money making sure our citizens get health care... oh wait, that'd be socialist. we can't spend our money on americans, everything we try to do to benefit americans you scream about socialism. when he gives foreign aid, he's a muslim; when he spends money at home, he's socialist. why dont you just get over it and accept the fact that you and your ilk have fallen out of favor in this country. we will not be hampered by the ignorant and bigoted or ruled by their fears anymore. you're never going to get your glenn beck approved candidate here becos his views are out of touch with the rest of america. it took a long time, but thank god, we made it. now you're just whining becos the tables have turned on you and your party.
Taking us, unswervingly, to their leader HBO's 'By the People' and ABC's 'V' share some eerie inclinations
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Last nights elections proves you WRONG....
on the one hand, I was gonna say I'm not as confident about soulsinging's assertion as he is, but on the other hand, what do last night's elections really prove? moderate Republicans won governorships in NJ and VA, which is something that happens quite commonly even in liberal New England states. and the Conservative Party candidate in upstate NY who was supported by lunatics such as Sarah Palin fell to defeat after the moderate Republican dropped out and endorsed the Democrat.
and i also feel the need to call you out for saying Barack Obama's name alone proves he's "the enemy". it's not even a Muslim name even when you include his middle name Hussein, and it wouldn't matter if it was Muslim in origin... it's just a name and Muslims as a group are not our enemy! Barack and Hussein are common arabic names predating Islam and Obama is of Kenyan origin. maybe you have a problem with the word "algebra" too? maybe you have a problem with other names of semitic origin like "Michael" and "Rachel"? yes, he bowed to the Saudi King... I'm pretty sure every President since FDR has done that. and unless we all stop driving cars or figure out a way to fuel our transportation needs ourselves, our Presidents will continue to do that. not that I support it... but it has nothing to do with Islam. the Saudi regime is just vile.
exactly what i was thinking. a few moderate republicans won governorships in states that often go republican and were even a surprise to find in the obama camp in the first place. hardly a sign of some ground swell of support for the lunatic right that aerial and Glenn Beck want to believe is out there.