Why Are PJ Fans Haters?

aerial
aerial Posts: 2,319
edited October 2009 in A Moving Train
I am very shocked how PJ fans treat each other on here. There is no common courtesy or respect from the majority of posters. I can’t even believe I like the same music as someone that loves to insult, denigrate and belittle people at the level it is done on this site. Can you help me understand, Please?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I don't see any haters. I think there's one side on here that is open to civil debate, and one that has no original position except for putting down the other side.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    i think that people just have different opinions,thats all..sometimes is hard,funny,ironic..like the real life..all ok :D
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  • dcfaithful
    dcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    aerial wrote:
    I am very shocked how PJ fans treat each other on here. There is no common courtesy or respect from the majority of posters. I can’t even believe I like the same music as someone that loves to insult, denigrate and belittle people at the level it is done on this site. Can you help me understand, Please?

    It's a matter of different opinions like dimitris said. However, some people don't know how to keep their emotions in control when speaking out of opinion. That goes for the world, not just this board.

    Sure we all love PJ...but that doesn't make it candyland. :(
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  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    aerial wrote:
    I am very shocked how PJ fans treat each other on here. There is no common courtesy or respect from the majority of posters. I can’t even believe I like the same music as someone that loves to insult, denigrate and belittle people at the level it is done on this site. Can you help me understand, Please?

    I agree with you but the only thing I can find to compare it to is my workplace. I know when I look around at people I work with, I see some who apparently live their lives trying to make others either feel, or look, badly. They thrive on gossip and listening to themselves talk - even when they're not saying anything relevant. I guess they think being mean is cool or something.

    They just seem like really unhappy people to me. I can't figure out any other reason for having the perspective they do. Given the number of people on the board, it figures that a certain percentage of them are going to be just like the people you encounter in the workplace everyday. I ran into a few, similar people at the ACL festival on Sunday. The only thing I can figure is that their universe must be pretty limited. 8-)
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  • Commy
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    habit
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    any time you have a bunch of people debating religion, politics, and current events you are asking for trouble. we are not all going to get along and it is foolish to think that we will. sometimes people's debating gets a little heated, but it is never pesonal.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    aerial wrote:
    I am very shocked how PJ fans treat each other on here. There is no common courtesy or respect from the majority of posters. I can’t even believe I like the same music as someone that loves to insult, denigrate and belittle people at the level it is done on this site. Can you help me understand, Please?

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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    edited October 2009
    Why is it that if someone doesn't agree on this board they are called haters or thread crashers or some shit. Not everyone has the same opinions in this world, just because we like the same music, doesn't mean we are going to like the exact same song or exact same lyrics or exact same whatever.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    Brisk. wrote:
    Why does it that if someone doesn't agree on this bored they are called haters or thread crashers or some shit. Not everyone has the same opinions in this world, just because we like the same music, doesn't mean we are going to like the exact same song or exact same lyrics or exact same whatever.

    haha this was the point i wanted to make. as usual someone said it better than i. :)
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  • catefrances
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    Brisk. wrote:
    Why does it that if someone doesn't agree on this bored they are called haters or thread crashers or some shit. Not everyone has the same opinions in this world, just because we like the same music, doesn't mean we are going to like the exact same song or exact same lyrics or exact same whatever.

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  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Yes there are people with different opinions and some people get passionate about it but 9 times out of 10 there's no hard feelings and people end up laughing about it.

    There may be the occasional individual who thrives on gossip mongering and putting people's backs up but I find that if you ignore their melodrama and laugh at their ridiculous posts, you don't get affected.

    I've always found the community here helpful, friendly and humourous. Most people will help you out either online or in person. I can't even begin to count how many times i've been sent stuff through the post, been given things at shows or even just given advice, love and support.

    Life would be pretty boring if we were all the same.

    Trust me, Pearl Jam fans are far from being haters.
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    any time you have a bunch of people debating religion, politics, and current events you are asking for trouble. we are not all going to get along and it is foolish to think that we will. sometimes people's debating gets a little heated, but it is never pesonal.



    Calling people morons or idiot's or much worse, is personal.... there are those that feel there opinions deem them more intelligent than someone elses opinion, which results in VERY nasty name calling. How intelligent is that? Is it personal or are they looking for attention?
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  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    any time you have a bunch of people debating religion, politics, and current events you are asking for trouble. we are not all going to get along and it is foolish to think that we will. sometimes people's debating gets a little heated, but it is never pesonal.



    Calling people morons or idiot's or much worse, is personal.... there are those that feel there opinions deem them more intelligent than someone elses opinion, which results in VERY nasty name calling. How intelligent is that? Is it personal or are they looking for attention?

    I'm thinking that maybe you've experienced this recently and that's why the thread was started?
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    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,408
    aerial wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    any time you have a bunch of people debating religion, politics, and current events you are asking for trouble. we are not all going to get along and it is foolish to think that we will. sometimes people's debating gets a little heated, but it is never pesonal.



    Calling people morons or idiot's or much worse, is personal.... there are those that feel there opinions deem them more intelligent than someone elses opinion, which results in VERY nasty name calling. How intelligent is that? Is it personal or are they looking for attention?
    i dunno, to me it seems like this thread is seeking attention. yes those things happen sometimes but i stand by my explanation from earlier. like it was said many times in prfectlefts thread 2 weeks ago, if you are going to take things personally perhaps it would be better for you not to post here? seriously, if you feel we are all haters, why do you put yourself in an environment like this?
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    This is the internet and growing a thick skin is a good thing we won't always agree or like what someone has posted. They're some here who post here that their style of posting is completely different than yours and rub you the wrong way. However we can learn to understand that style cause this time in 6 months we won't remember hardly anything about this thread.

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  • Brisk.
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    catefrances wrote:
    Brisk. wrote:
    Why does it that if someone doesn't agree on this bored they are called haters or thread crashers or some shit. Not everyone has the same opinions in this world, just because we like the same music, doesn't mean we are going to like the exact same song or exact same lyrics or exact same whatever.

    Commy wrote:
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    as well as lack of communication skills and zero imagination.

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  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    I don't think it has much to do with thick skin as much as it has to do with choosing not to indulge in negativity. As was pointed out by another poster, people get hell bent on continuing to tell you you're stupid or that what you're saying is moronic. These actions only magnify their inability to interact in a positive manner. ESPECIALLY when you continue to try to explain a position and communicate objectively.

    I think Ed says it best:

    "swallowed whole in negatives....... it's so sad and sickening"
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I think overall, the MT bunch are not really "haters". It's in the Porch that you see the intense negativity, and I think a lot has to do with simply people not happy about anything. There are lots of people everywhere that are typically like this.
  • decides2dream
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    aerial wrote:
    I am very shocked how PJ fans treat each other on here. There is no common courtesy or respect from the majority of posters. I can’t even believe I like the same music as someone that loves to insult, denigrate and belittle people at the level it is done on this site. Can you help me understand, Please?


    i often wonder why some seemingly assign a higher level of respect for pj fans, like somehow they are a cut above the average person on the street. they, we, really aren't. and as to how people treat each other here, it's the inhternet! there's your answer. that really is it. i have come to realize there is a very different lelvel of conduct on the internet. not excusing it, just looking at it for what it is. luckily, i find most people choose not to degrade themselves in that manner, but yes, there are many who do. don't let it get to ya...
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    aerial wrote:
    I am very shocked how PJ fans treat each other on here. There is no common courtesy or respect from the majority of posters. I can’t even believe I like the same music as someone that loves to insult, denigrate and belittle people at the level it is done on this site. Can you help me understand, Please?


    I think you're being a bit dramatic here...so someone doesn't agree with someone else...big deal...it's not hating, it's discussion...

    I think some take things personally...

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