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Seniority Based Fan Club Seating is a LIE

SH10924SH10924 Posts: 7
edited October 2009 in Given To Fly (live)
If you've been a long time fan club member like me (almost 15 years), don't expect to get your seats based on your "seniority". Read the boards and you'll find tons of people who have long years in and joined before it was called the Ten Club who got shafted on seat assignments.

Second tour in a row that they tooled me on seats.

The seniority based seating is complete BS and a total lie.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    They hooked me up in Chitown, so I'm gonna say, you're wrong.
  • SP96445SP96445 Posts: 215
    I was disappointed with my seats but still seems like your being overly harsh.
    Maybe get out of the bitter barn and play in the hay?
  • InMyTree4InMyTree4 Posts: 1,239
    well 1,2 9 10 are lottery so that changes it by a few rows...where were your seats and whats your #?
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,763
    I believe that they're issuing tickets based on seniority. I just question how they determine what seats are best. In other words, they seem to think the 11th row against the wall under the speakers is better than the 13th row center. I don't.
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  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    As a member since 2005 all I can say is THANK GOD ITS A LIE!
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • Digital TwilightDigital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    DeLukin wrote:
    As a member since 2005 all I can say is THANK GOD ITS A LIE!

    :lol:
  • WildChildRoseWildChildRose Posts: 568
    Ugh.... far from a lie sweetie! My seats were spot on for what I expected them to be. :)
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    before trolling and making this statement- at least give an example of what you are talking about.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,587
    I think they do try and do the best they can...but screw ups happen. Like a member 161XXX ending up in a 200 level section of Chicago Night 2...worse seats by far than night 1... ;)
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  • Mookie Blaylock77Mookie Blaylock77 Posts: 127
    Man, you should be happy just to be able to get the chance to be there... :D

    Stop moaning... :!: :x

    Smile and be happy !!! :lol::lol:
  • VixenVixen Posts: 70
    I'm just thankful to be there and see the guys live at all..after all, they do have family and friends they could be spending this time with...These guys are very dedicated to their fans..and EVERYONE should be grateful for that..it doesn't matter where you are seated..it's the fact that you are THERE!! ;)
    Don't get me wrong.. Front row centre would be sweet tix, but being farthest from the stage is better than not being there at all imo!!
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I think they do try and do the best they can...but screw ups happen. Like a member 161XXX ending up in a 200 level section of Chicago Night 2...worse seats by far than night 1... ;)

    I think somebody pulled the ol' switcheroo...... 427xxx and I was on the lower level.
  • KevinZedKevinZed Posts: 26
    All I will say is that every band should have a fan club as good as this one. Given how quickly PJ's shows sell out in Vancouver, I'm glad to get any tickets throught the fan club.
  • Septima_YSeptima_Y Posts: 6
    KZ276304 wrote:
    All I will say is that every band should have a fan club as good as this one. Given how quickly PJ's shows sell out in Vancouver, I'm glad to get any tickets throught the fan club.


    it is hell to get tickets in vancouver. after years of sitting in the back of the stadium (or not getting a ticket at all - and having to rely on the inflated re-sale prices), i finally joined ten club. to even be in the lower bowl for the last few shows, has been amazing.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I've had comparable seats at almost every show I've been to since 2003. The only exception was at MSG (no shit), and even then, I was on the floor, which was more than I'd hoped for.
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  • Backspacer 76Backspacer 76 Posts: 963
    I have always thought it depended on where you are seeing your show. I have been a 10c member for almost 18 years so my member # is pretty low.
    I live in the Memphis area.
    I bought 10c tickets to see PJ play in Knoxville in 1998. I couldn't wait! thought I would have killer seats!
    NOPE..... The seats were not good at all. All the way in the back of the venue. :cry:

    Then in 2000 I bought 10c tickets to see PJ play in Memphis.My expectations were pretty low about getting great seats. I had front row seats!!!!!!! :shock:

    Little Rock,AR. 2003 tour. 2nd row center!!!!!! :o

    So I always thought you can have good seniority in 10c but it still depends on where you are seeing this show.
    If I got on a plane and flew to the next LA show I would not get very good seats because I live no where near California. If I see a show near my home town it increases the possibility of great seats.
  • IwasBit10IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    Backspacer 76 wrote:
    I have always thought it depended on where you are seeing your show. I have been a 10c member for almost 18 years so my member # is pretty low.
    I live in the Memphis area.
    I bought 10c tickets to see PJ play in Knoxville in 1998. I couldn't wait! thought I would have killer seats!
    NOPE..... The seats were not good at all. All the way in the back of the venue. :cry:

    Then in 2000 I bought 10c tickets to see PJ play in Memphis.My expectations were pretty low about getting great seats. I had front row seats!!!!!!! :shock:

    Little Rock,AR. 2003 tour. 2nd row center!!!!!! :o

    So I always thought you can have good seniority in 10c but it still depends on where you are seeing this show.
    If I got on a plane and flew to the next LA show I would not get very good seats because I live no where near California. If I see a show near my home town it increases the possibility of great seats.


    Wait, what? I'm not following you. You think it's based on where you live?

    I do agree that it depends on where you're seeing the band, as certain cities have a higher concentration of fans/demand. But I don't think they gave a rats ass where you actually live.
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  • Backspacer 76Backspacer 76 Posts: 963
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    Backspacer 76 wrote:
    I have always thought it depended on where you are seeing your show. I have been a 10c member for almost 18 years so my member # is pretty low.
    I live in the Memphis area.
    I bought 10c tickets to see PJ play in Knoxville in 1998. I couldn't wait! thought I would have killer seats!
    NOPE..... The seats were not good at all. All the way in the back of the venue. :cry:

    Then in 2000 I bought 10c tickets to see PJ play in Memphis.My expectations were pretty low about getting great seats. I had front row seats!!!!!!! :shock:

    Little Rock,AR. 2003 tour. 2nd row center!!!!!! :o

    So I always thought you can have good seniority in 10c but it still depends on where you are seeing this show.
    If I got on a plane and flew to the next LA show I would not get very good seats because I live no where near California. If I see a show near my home town it increases the possibility of great seats.


    Wait, what? I'm not following you. You think it's based on where you live?

    I do agree that it depends on where you're seeing the band, as certain cities have a higher concentration of fans/demand. But I don't think they gave a rats ass where you actually live.
    Like I said this is just how I think it is done. My seniority helps me get better seats at concerts IF they are playing in or around my home where my seniority is compared to others around me who are also in the 10c.Then if I travel to another part of the country (say New York)even though my 10c# might be lower than others at this show that doesn't matter because there are people who live there who deserve that better seat more than me. Does any of this make sense?
  • marcPJfanmarcPJfan Austin, TX Posts: 841
    I see what you're saying but that's not how it works. 10c doesn't care what your hometown show is. If someone travels to a show and they have a lower number; they will get better seats. Period.
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  • Backspacer 76Backspacer 76 Posts: 963
    marcPJfan wrote:
    I see what you're saying but that's not how it works. 10c doesn't care what your hometown show is. If someone travels to a show and they have a lower number; they will get better seats. Period.
    Really?
    Like I said, this was just how I thought it was.
    Didn't know I could fly from Memphis to Los Angeles and possibly get 1st,2nd,or 3rd row seats from 10c members who actually live in LA. oh well.....now I know......
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Backspacer 76 wrote:
    marcPJfan wrote:
    I see what you're saying but that's not how it works. 10c doesn't care what your hometown show is. If someone travels to a show and they have a lower number; they will get better seats. Period.
    Really?
    Like I said, this was just how I thought it was.
    Didn't know I could fly from Memphis to Los Angeles and possibly get 1st,2nd,or 3rd row seats from 10c members who actually live in LA. oh well.....now I know......


    i'm pretty sure they stopped that hometown thing before or after the riot act tour
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    The way i see it...
    I have been up close a few times... it won't kill me to sit a few rows back if it gives fellow fans the chance... who would normally never get the chance... to get to see the gigs as I have seen them.
    ...
    But, that's just me.
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  • jordan kjordan k Posts: 196
    Septima_Y wrote:
    KZ276304 wrote:
    All I will say is that every band should have a fan club as good as this one. Given how quickly PJ's shows sell out in Vancouver, I'm glad to get any tickets throught the fan club.


    it is hell to get tickets in vancouver. after years of sitting in the back of the stadium (or not getting a ticket at all - and having to rely on the inflated re-sale prices), i finally joined ten club. to even be in the lower bowl for the last few shows, has been amazing.

    I feel you, i joined for the same reason.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jordan k wrote:
    Septima_Y wrote:
    KZ276304 wrote:
    All I will say is that every band should have a fan club as good as this one. Given how quickly PJ's shows sell out in Vancouver, I'm glad to get any tickets throught the fan club.


    it is hell to get tickets in vancouver. after years of sitting in the back of the stadium (or not getting a ticket at all - and having to rely on the inflated re-sale prices), i finally joined ten club. to even be in the lower bowl for the last few shows, has been amazing.

    I feel you, i joined for the same reason.
    ...
    I joined back when the gigs were General Admission. I joined to save me the stress of 137, 'I'm sorry, but all circuits are busy at this time...' messages in a row on ChargeLine. Ten/VHC was much easier to get tickets in hand.
    The first seated gig I went to was 1998.
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  • RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    i have purchased ten club tickets two times so far out of the 5 shows i have seen
    east rutherford and hartford last year, both times i had very decent seats cant complain, in view distance of the stage i would say one level off the floor
    member # 279xxx
  • RubberbandmanRubberbandman Posts: 439
    if i had to take a stab at it , i think its based on how many fellow members are there at that show and what your club member # is compared to there club #

    so for example if i am 279xxx going to philly im expecting since every state up and down the east coast will be there i will be in section 200's or 300's based on how big that show is going to be and the state venue, but who knows as long as i am there and i get a bootleg later on :)
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    europe baby..fight for your seat..and for your life.. :D
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  • SOLAT319SOLAT319 Posts: 4,594
    Vixen wrote:
    I'm just thankful to be there and see the guys live at all..after all, they do have family and friends they could be spending this time with..

    You do understand the fact that they are not doing this for free, right? Just checking...
    ;)
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  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    DewieCox wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I think they do try and do the best they can...but screw ups happen. Like a member 161XXX ending up in a 200 level section of Chicago Night 2...worse seats by far than night 1... ;)

    I think somebody pulled the ol' switcheroo...... 427xxx and I was on the lower level.
    I think something like that happened in Seattle too.. based on someone we know that got shafted both night.

    but someone is complaining about Vancouver? really? EVERYONE got great seats for that, even shitty numbers. (and btw from the seat tracker it looks like they didn't even bother doing the row 9-10 lottery)
    marcPJfan wrote:
    I see what you're saying but that's not how it works. 10c doesn't care what your hometown show is. If someone travels to a show and they have a lower number; they will get better seats. Period.

    actually there's circumstantial evidence that the front row lottery might have been weighted towards local this year.. I don't mind that though, I think it's great my Canadian friends got front row in their hometown :)
    didn't stop me getting good to great seats on my not great number all tour :)
  • ACCBootlegGoddessACCBootlegGoddess Posts: 4,251
    Backspacer 76 wrote:
    Like I said this is just how I think it is done. My seniority helps me get better seats at concerts IF they are playing in or around my home where my seniority is compared to others around me who are also in the 10c.Then if I travel to another part of the country (say New York)even though my 10c# might be lower than others at this show that doesn't matter because there are people who live there who deserve that better seat more than me. Does any of this make sense?


    It has NOTHING to do with where you live. The reason you got such amazing seats in Memphis in 2000 is because 10C only allowed people to buy 1 pair of tickets for the entire tour...AND they distributed them in blocks. So if first 4 rows were from 10C #'s 1-102xxx....if member 102xxx picks up their ticket first they get front row. If member number 1 picks their ticket up right before the show (ergo last) they get 4th row.

    In 2003 you said you went to Little Rock...there wasn't a whole lot of fanclub people who travelled to that show compared to other cities on the tour so thats why your number got you 2nd row there.
    In places like LA and NYC they have a MUCH larger fanbase and more people travel to those cities than to Little Rock and probably Memphis to see Pearl Jam. In Little Rock you're competing with maybe 100 other people vs 1000 other people in NYC.

    Sometimes 10C does make mistakes...look at Seattle 2 on this tour...and Grand Rapids 06 just to name 2 shows. Shit happens, their human and sometimes they can't control what dishonest shithead ticket employee's for certain venue's do behind their back.
    They really do DO the best they can to make sure our tickets are allocated fairly.
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