First time reading Bible questions

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  • AusticmanAusticman Posts: 1,327
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder if the people that wrote the Bible ever took any drugs? I bet they did. Those people back then were almost permanently off their heads on some psychedelic substance or other.

    I can imagine that one dude was out of his gourd on mushrooms while another dude - the scribe - jotted down what he said. :mrgreen:

    Edit: and then later a bunch of assholes who took themselves seriously decided to build a Church and begin persecuting people and making a load of money, in-between blowing 6 year old's in the back of the cloister.

    dude did you see jesus he turned water into wine. woooaaahhhhhhh this is some good shit john the baptist sells. :mrgreen:

    No way man!! That shit Mary Magdalene got from her pimp was AWESOME!!! I swear I saw Jesus walk on water and calm the storm!!!

    Edited for the Bible........oh and Fox news!! : "I saw Jesus walk on water and calm the storm!" :twisted:
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  • and its 6 days. not 7. on the 7th he rested. sheesh if youre gonna argue stupidities at least get them right. :P :mrgreen:

    oh and yes a day on neptune is consdierably longer than a day on mercury.
    Good point...

    Neptune and Mercury.....

    Do you believe in life on other planets???
    Life in other solar systems????

    Because if there is other forms of life......

    That sure makes the whole belief in God and the bible a bunch of horseshit....right????
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    and its 6 days. not 7. on the 7th he rested. sheesh if youre gonna argue stupidities at least get them right. :P :mrgreen:

    oh and yes a day on neptune is consdierably longer than a day on mercury.
    Good point...

    Neptune and Mercury.....

    Do you believe in life on other planets???
    Life in other solar systems????

    Because if there is other forms of life......

    That sure makes the whole belief in God and the bible a bunch of horseshit....right????

    i believe the rebels are hiding on dantooine. 8-)




    have you noticed all the begatting that gets got in the bible without the mention of women??? just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it doesnt exist. ;)
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited September 2009
    I've read the Bible. I can see it as inspiration created at a time when mankind could not resolve the big questions of life. But, God is made out as kind of an asshole in there... especially in the Old Testament. I guess there had to be a reason why people died and crops were hit with locust... God was a pretty convenient scape goat.
    The other thing I considered was the history of the Bible. It was in the hands of the Church of Rome for centuries. The modern day version was canonized in 600 A.D. and the populous was pretty illiterate and could not afford the hand copied versons. It was read to the people by the Church. The Church of England was created just so Henry VIII could dump his wife. The American Standard version even changed the Ten Commandments from 'Thou Shalt not Kill' to 'You Shall Not Murder', to make it okay to wage war and support the Death Penalty.
    My suggestion would be to read it as literature... both fiction and non-fiction, with an open mind (a.k.a. outside the constraints of organized religion). There are some really beautiful passages found in there.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • and its 6 days. not 7. on the 7th he rested. sheesh if youre gonna argue stupidities at least get them right. :P :mrgreen:

    oh and yes a day on neptune is consdierably longer than a day on mercury.
    Good point...

    Neptune and Mercury.....

    Do you believe in life on other planets???
    Life in other solar systems????

    Because if there is other forms of life......

    That sure makes the whole belief in God and the bible a bunch of horseshit....right????

    i believe the rebels are hiding on dantooine. 8-)




    have you noticed all the begatting that gets got in the bible without the mention of women??? just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it doesnt exist. ;)
    Wait a second....

    Wasnt there a woman named Mary mentioned in the Bible????

    The virgin chick....right???
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,320
    Hey, I said on the 7th day he smoked a joint and watched some football.........

    That must have been the same day he made his pro football picks in the office pool...
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  • Hey, I said on the 7th day he smoked a joint and watched some football.........

    That must have been the same day he made his pro football picks in the office pool...
    And on the 7th day........

    God called his bookie.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Hey, I said on the 7th day he smoked a joint and watched some football.........

    That must have been the same day he made his pro football picks in the office pool...
    ...
    The all seeing/all knowing One already knows who is going to win every future Super Bowl. Seems He has a bit of an unfair advantage.
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    I've read the Bible. I can see it as inspiration created at a time when mankind could not resolve the big questions of life. But, God is made out as kind of an asshole in there... especially in the Old Testament. I guess there had to be a reason why people died and crops were hit with locust... God was a pretty convenient scape goat.
    The other thing I considered was the history of the Bible. It was in the hands of the Church of Rome for centuries. The modern day version was canonized in 600 A.D. and the populous was pretty illiterate and could not afford the hand copied versons. It was read to the people by the Church. The Church of England was created just so Henry VIII could dump his wife. The American Standard version even changed the Ten Commandments from 'Thou Shalt not Kill' to 'You Shall Not Murder', to make it okay to wage war and support the Death Penalty.
    My suggestion would be to read it as literature... both fiction and non-fiction, with an open mind (a.k.a. outside the constraints of organized religion). There are some really beautiful passages found in there.


    i see what your saying. I am not planning on going to seminary or going to church.

    As I said, for no other reason than to read and understand or try to understand the passages of the bible seems a pretty useful thing to do. The bible, is so often quoted and refered to in everyday speech and in everyday culture.

    And as I said, the stuff I have heard about, just in living 25 years on this earth, as a human being in a world that views religion so utterly essential, I think I owe it to myself to just check it out, and that the stuff/stories I have heard people talk about and reference sound really interesting. Adam and Eve and all that.

    I already come into reading the bible, as a radical activist, and am fully aware of the many many harmful things religion and the Bible specifically has wrought. I talked about before how back in the day, white racists used the bible and its passages to reaffirm their dominance over blacks, and I assume probably would read some Bible passages while lynching blacks or gathering for a KKK gathering.

    All I want to do, is check it out, see what the fuss is about. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I will hate it, maybe I will find it boring as all get out, but i am curious...
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Good point...

    Neptune and Mercury.....

    Do you believe in life on other planets???
    Life in other solar systems????

    Because if there is other forms of life......

    That sure makes the whole belief in God and the bible a bunch of horseshit....right????

    i believe the rebels are hiding on dantooine. 8-)




    have you noticed all the begatting that gets got in the bible without the mention of women??? just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it doesnt exist. ;)
    Wait a second....

    Wasnt there a woman named Mary mentioned in the Bible????

    The virgin chick....right???


    im not speaking of her. i said notice all the begatting THAT goes on ... not notice that ALL the begatting goes on without mention of women. for example in genesis ch5. where adam begat seth who begat enos who begat cainan who begat mahalaleel... i could go on... whats noah wifes name btw???
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  • im not speaking of her. i said notice all the begatting THAT goes on ... not notice that ALL the begatting goes on without mention of women. for example in genesis ch5. where adam begat seth who begat enos who begat cainan who begat mahalaleel... i could go on... whats noah wifes name btw???
    Naamah????
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    i see what your saying. I am not planning on going to seminary or going to church.

    As I said, for no other reason than to read and understand or try to understand the passages of the bible seems a pretty useful thing to do. The bible, is so often quoted and refered to in everyday speech and in everyday culture.

    And as I said, the stuff I have heard about, just in living 25 years on this earth, as a human being in a world that views religion so utterly essential, I think I owe it to myself to just check it out, and that the stuff/stories I have heard people talk about and reference sound really interesting. Adam and Eve and all that.

    I already come into reading the bible, as a radical activist, and am fully aware of the many many harmful things religion and the Bible specifically has wrought. I talked about before how back in the day, white racists used the bible and its passages to reaffirm their dominance over blacks, and I assume probably would read some Bible passages while lynching blacks or gathering for a KKK gathering.

    All I want to do, is check it out, see what the fuss is about. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe I will hate it, maybe I will find it boring as all get out, but i am curious...
    ...
    Which is exactly what I said... read it as literature, not as Holy Text.
    People will read from it what they want to hear. I don't blame the Bible for being what it is and what people have made it out to be... I see the fault of Man using God's divinity to sanction their human imperfections and pointing to the Bible as guidence.
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    oh and yes a day on neptune is consdierably longer than a day on mercury.
    You sure about that? ;)
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  • If there was ever a doubt about GOD wouldn't you believe this guy.....


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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003


    im not speaking of her. i said notice all the begatting THAT goes on ... not notice that ALL the begatting goes on without mention of women. for example in genesis ch5. where adam begat seth who begat enos who begat cainan who begat mahalaleel... i could go on... whats noah wifes name btw???
    Naamah????


    its not mentioned in genesis.
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  • If there was ever a doubt about GOD wouldn't you believe this guy.....


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0oBuhTLRI



    :roll: :roll: :roll:
    Wow.....

    I made it to 2:25......

    WOW!!!!
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    im not speaking of her. i said notice all the begatting THAT goes on ... not notice that ALL the begatting goes on without mention of women. for example in genesis ch5. where adam begat seth who begat enos who begat cainan who begat mahalaleel... i could go on... whats noah wifes name btw???
    ...
    Mrs. Noah?
    ...
    The thing I cannot figure... Adam and Eve. They had two sons... Abel and Cain. Three males... still one female. To populate the planet... there has to have been incest. We are all the inbred results of incest?
    No wonder we think we are foriegn policy experts on Russian diplomacy if we can see the Russian coastline from our kitchen window.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    im not speaking of her. i said notice all the begatting THAT goes on ... not notice that ALL the begatting goes on without mention of women. for example in genesis ch5. where adam begat seth who begat enos who begat cainan who begat mahalaleel... i could go on... whats noah wifes name btw???
    ...
    Mrs. Noah?
    ...
    The thing I cannot figure... Adam and Eve. They had two sons... Abel and Cain. Three males... still one female. To populate the planet... there has to have been incest. We are all the inbred results of incest?
    No wonder we think we are foriegn policy experts on Russian diplomacy if we can see the Russian coastline from our kitchen window.

    adam and eve had THREE sons... abel cain and seth.

    and just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Cosmo wrote:
    im not speaking of her. i said notice all the begatting THAT goes on ... not notice that ALL the begatting goes on without mention of women. for example in genesis ch5. where adam begat seth who begat enos who begat cainan who begat mahalaleel... i could go on... whats noah wifes name btw???
    ...
    Mrs. Noah?
    ...
    The thing I cannot figure... Adam and Eve. They had two sons... Abel and Cain. Three males... still one female. To populate the planet... there has to have been incest. We are all the inbred results of incest?
    No wonder we think we are foriegn policy experts on Russian diplomacy if we can see the Russian coastline from our kitchen window.

    adam and eve had THREE sons... abel cain and seth.

    and just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
    ...
    Okay.. four males, one female.
    Still doesn't answer the question about how humanity sprouts from 2 humans without incest being involved... does it?
    And if the sons took wives... where did the wives come from?
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Okay.. four males, one female.
    Still doesn't answer the question about how humanity sprouts from 2 humans without incest being involved... does it?
    And if the sons took wives... where did the wives come from?
    Allah had some daughters and Abel was totally going to call them back but the whole Cain thing put a cramp in it ... the wives things were made up so that Eve didn't know what sluts her sons were.
    1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,786
    edited September 2009
    Unless cain, abel, seth, adam, and eve were a bunch of apes......

    Then I am not buying the Bible version of how human beings showed up on the planet.....
    Post edited by SPEEDY MCCREADY on
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Mrs. Noah?
    ...
    The thing I cannot figure... Adam and Eve. They had two sons... Abel and Cain. Three males... still one female. To populate the planet... there has to have been incest. We are all the inbred results of incest?
    No wonder we think we are foriegn policy experts on Russian diplomacy if we can see the Russian coastline from our kitchen window.

    adam and eve had THREE sons... abel cain and seth.

    and just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
    ...
    Okay.. four males, one female.
    Still doesn't answer the question about how humanity sprouts from 2 humans without incest being involved... does it?
    And if the sons took wives... where did the wives come from?

    dotn forget cain slew abel.

    and as ive said twice before just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it didnt exist, you know??? youre just thinking too hard. ;):)
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Songburst wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Okay.. four males, one female.
    Still doesn't answer the question about how humanity sprouts from 2 humans without incest being involved... does it?
    And if the sons took wives... where did the wives come from?
    Allah had some daughters and Abel was totally going to call them back but the whole Cain thing put a cramp in it ... the wives things were made up so that Eve didn't know what sluts her sons were.
    ...
    Okay. But, doesn't that put the kibosh on the whole 'Creationism' thing? When did God create Allah and why isn't it mentioned in the Bible?
    Or is it that God only created the Jews?
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    Oh and Cate:

    A day on Mercury is about 176 24-hour days. A day on Neptune is about 16 Hours.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    edited September 2009
    Songburst wrote:
    Oh and Cate:

    A day on Mercury is about 176 24-hour days. A day on Neptune is about 16 Hours.

    thanks... tis why i mentioned it. :)

    as long as 176 earth days?? is that right?? seems a bit too much. *shrugs*
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    and as ive said twice before just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it didnt exist, you know??? youre just thinking too hard. ;):)
    ...
    I know... it's a character flaw of mine.
    It's just that so much is made of the Bible... people have told me it is the 'Truth'. If it is the truth... it must not be the Whole Truth because no mention is made of these 'other' women. Unless they are like 'The Others' on 'LOST'.
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  • Songburst wrote:
    Oh and Cate:

    A day on Mercury is about 176 24-hour days. A day on Neptune is about 16 Hours.

    thanks... tis why i mentioned it. :)

    as long as 176 earth days?? is that right?? seems a bit too much. *shrugs*
    NO...

    176 GOD days.....

    which is 750,000,000 years ....give or take a few million days.....hehehehehehehe
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    Cosmo wrote:
    Songburst wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Okay.. four males, one female.
    Still doesn't answer the question about how humanity sprouts from 2 humans without incest being involved... does it?
    And if the sons took wives... where did the wives come from?
    Allah had some daughters and Abel was totally going to call them back but the whole Cain thing put a cramp in it ... the wives things were made up so that Eve didn't know what sluts her sons were.
    ...
    Okay. But, doesn't that put the kibosh on the whole 'Creationism' thing? When did God create Allah and why isn't it mentioned in the Bible?
    Or is it that God only created the Jews?
    I'm pretty sure that God only created white people. And only good-looking white people for that matter. Allah and his wives were black and therefore were spawned by the devil himself. Oh ya -- and god made sure that the kids that Allah's daughters had were white as well (oh and not related). That cover it?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    and as ive said twice before just cause something isnt mentioned doesnt mean it didnt exist, you know??? youre just thinking too hard. ;):)
    ...
    I know... it's a character flaw of mine.
    It's just that so much is made of the Bible... people have told me it is the 'Truth'. If it is the truth... it must not be the Whole Truth because no mention is made of these 'other' women. Unless they are like 'The Others' on 'LOST'.


    there are many truths. each of us must find our own. 8-)
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    Songburst wrote:
    Oh and Cate:

    A day on Mercury is about 176 24-hour days. A day on Neptune is about 16 Hours.

    thanks... tis why i mentioned it. :)

    as long as 176 earth days?? is that right?? seems a bit too much. *shrugs*
    Well it rotates completely around its axis in 58 days but the definition of a day has to do with that rotation plus the distance the plante travelled around the sun in one rotation.
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