PJ is not independent = GREED
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Parksy wrote:DischordVision wrote:you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..
im not sure it's completely about money..
also... "you people are retarded" Nice! You're awesome!!! That was so WITTY!! You need to write a book.
Full of witty remarks like that!
you sound like you're a struggling artist in a garage somewhere jealous over everyone else who is successful.
That's like asking a pro baseball player to hang up the cleats and stop playing after 5 years to make room for other players who are working to make it in the league.
When the fact is... the PEOPLE and the FANS want to see that player play until he is done.
This is the music industry.
You make it sound like Pearl Jam should resort to making albums and releasing them by themselves because they already had success... when the reality is that when you do that.... your music doesn't reach out as far. Pearl Jam, I believe, want their music to reach out. They want their music to be attainable. Not just to fans who are on the website... but fans who might go to a store not knowing what to get... and pick out Pearl Jam from an assortment of albums. Pearl Jam want success. Like anyone. Like everyone. With success often comes money... but I highly doubt it's all about money. I think it's more about success.
Imagine making an album. It's one thing to be proud of what you've done and be admired by a small group of people. But it's something different to see how your album measures up. If I was in a band.... be my 1st album, or my 15th... I want to see how well it will do. I want to see how well it will stand up against other albums.
It's the fucking way things are. These guys went to court to fight TicketMaster and you're here calling them greedy.
um, yeah they went to Ticketmaster & lost...nothing happened..but I give props to them for trying but that was 14 years ago? The fact is when you're rich & u remain rich year after year it changes you..I don't care what anyone says...money is the root of all evil. So PJ, yes gives to charities yet only to ones they admire..I mean if Bill Gates & every other wealthy fuck came together & really wanted to help the world & change it, they would. But they give a little here, give a litte there...go on vacation, make some more millions, have the public suck their dicks ...wow what a life!U.S. / Canada Buffalo 1996 Barrie Ontario 1998 Saratoga Springs 2000 Toronto Ontario 2000 Albany 2003 Toronto Ontario 2003 Buffalo 2003 Toronto Ontario 2005 Toledo 2004 London Ontario 2005 Seattle 2009 Vancouver B.C. 2011 Seattle 20130 -
philthehip wrote:Gonzo1977 wrote:This from a guy who probably steals FUGAZI's music.
He probably still has a Pamela Anderson poster on his wall from 1994
Yep the good ol'days when the music was free and Baywatch ruled the earth.0 -
'Pearl Jam' get more money for each record because they are doing the service that the record company would do in a normal deal. That they would be paid for.Post edited by Plankton on0
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DischordVision wrote:You want a independent band? try FUGAZI, turned down major label offers years ago & made a real impact w/ original DIY mentality...everyone should be thanking Dischord Records
I've never heard a Fugazi song in my life. I would have never heard of the band name unless I hadn't read Eddie Vedder quotes. Maybe that's why Pearl Jam uses Sony and Target. They actually want people to hear their music.0 -
We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:"No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."0
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this thread isn't locked yet?PJ: 9/29/04, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/18/13, 8/7/16
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!0 -
Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:
I think you guys should just agree to disagree...Toronto - 2009
Hartford - 2010
Ed Solo - Hartford - 2011
Toronto X 2, Ottawa & Hamilton - 2011
Ed Solo - Jacksonville - 2012
London, Pittsburgh & Buffalo - 2013
No shows in 2014 :-(0 -
DischordVision wrote:Parksy wrote:DischordVision wrote:you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..
im not sure it's completely about money..
also... "you people are retarded" Nice! You're awesome!!! That was so WITTY!! You need to write a book.
Full of witty remarks like that!
you sound like you're a struggling artist in a garage somewhere jealous over everyone else who is successful.
That's like asking a pro baseball player to hang up the cleats and stop playing after 5 years to make room for other players who are working to make it in the league.
When the fact is... the PEOPLE and the FANS want to see that player play until he is done.
This is the music industry.
You make it sound like Pearl Jam should resort to making albums and releasing them by themselves because they already had success... when the reality is that when you do that.... your music doesn't reach out as far. Pearl Jam, I believe, want their music to reach out. They want their music to be attainable. Not just to fans who are on the website... but fans who might go to a store not knowing what to get... and pick out Pearl Jam from an assortment of albums. Pearl Jam want success. Like anyone. Like everyone. With success often comes money... but I highly doubt it's all about money. I think it's more about success.
Imagine making an album. It's one thing to be proud of what you've done and be admired by a small group of people. But it's something different to see how your album measures up. If I was in a band.... be my 1st album, or my 15th... I want to see how well it will do. I want to see how well it will stand up against other albums.
It's the fucking way things are. These guys went to court to fight TicketMaster and you're here calling them greedy.
um, yeah they went to Ticketmaster & lost...nothing happened..but I give props to them for trying but that was 14 years ago? The fact is when you're rich & u remain rich year after year it changes you..I don't care what anyone says...money is the root of all evil. So PJ, yes gives to charities yet only to ones they admire..I mean if Bill Gates & every other wealthy fuck came together & really wanted to help the world & change it, they would. But they give a little here, give a litte there...go on vacation, make some more millions, have the public suck their dicks ...wow what a life!
Kurt? Is it you?0 -
washedinblack91 wrote:this thread isn't locked yet?
why? i think it funny to watch this poor delusional person drown in his own ignorance0 -
Pearl Jam has not been 'independent' for many years people......"No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."0
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norm wrote:washedinblack91 wrote:this thread isn't locked yet?
why? i think it funny to watch this poor delusional person drown in his own ignorance
I didnt think ppl this stupid existed. He must be on crack or something stronger0 -
bump30 wrote:Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:
I think you guys should just agree to disagree...
I do agree... altho theres a way to do that...calling people retards, you must be a bitch and a british bitch at that really angers me...0 -
norm wrote:washedinblack91 wrote:this thread isn't locked yet?
why? i think it funny to watch this poor delusional person drown in his own ignorance
ah well... i'll try and find the humor again. i'll just wait for another postPJ: 9/29/04, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/18/13, 8/7/16
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!0 -
joewalshdc wrote:bump30 wrote:Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:
I think you guys should just agree to disagree...
I do agree... altho theres a way to do that...calling people retards, you must be a bitch and a british bitch at that really angers me...
That did annoy me. I can cope with the bitch comment but bringing our poor old Queen into it lol. She was getting ready for my ass kssing when all this kicked off0 -
washedinblack91 wrote:this thread isn't locked yet?Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?0 -
why would someone who thinks we're all "retarded" would continue to talk to us? :?:0
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i got your back phil
although now that the queen has been brought in to this im not sure whose side im on
but seriously the first poster really hasnt a clue, yeah they cut a deal, a deal that will save the people who are buying it a few quid, make pearl jam a bit, then theyll give a bit away, and theyll keep touring making them more money, money which some of it will find its way into charitys hands so really its win win0 -
Im off to eat my royal british tea now folks. Might write Stone a begging letter later. He should give me a million, hes got plenty0
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satansbed wrote:i got your back phil
although now that the queen has been brought in to this im not sure whose side im on
but seriously the first poster really hasnt a clue, yeah they cut a deal, a deal that will save the people who are buying it a few quid, make pearl jam a bit, then theyll give a bit away, and theyll keep touring making them more money, money which some of it will find its way into charitys hands so really its win win
Thanks dude. He is soooo funny. Hope your well man. I got a load of boots here for ya so text me your add and I will send them on to you0
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