PJ is not independent = GREED

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  • Guitarhero27
    Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    DischordVision wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..


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  • Your Camaro's hood
    Your Camaro's hood Posts: 80
    DischordVision wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..

    Dude, we're sorry you lost your job as an illustrator at the 'zine, but quit taking it out on the band.
  • washedinblack91
    washedinblack91 Posts: 3,079
    DischordVision wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..
    WHAT!!

    these people have worked DAMN HARD to get where they are today! it's not like success and money fell into their laps, it's not like their last names are Hilton or Trump! and if it was, WHO CARES!!! we are rewarding them for making us feel good, for giving us entertainment, i can't tell you how many people are alive today because of their music! and i have to disagree, we do need entertainment for survival. everyone needs something to believe in, even if it's the fact that someone else has the same views, ideals, etc as you do. i'm sorry if your life or if someone else's isn't great because of a lost job or something, but you shouldn't punish someone who has worked their ASSES off for themselves, their family, their fans, and for charities.
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  • DischordVision
    DischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    philthehip wrote:
    DischordVision wrote:
    getting paid? are you slow? there's a difference between getting paid & being fucking millionaires for years on end then flaunting it w/ your deal on a new album. Wake up! nearly 1 in 10 Americans is out of work but hey at least the rockstars & movie stars are doing good! they've always done good, always will cuz we all buy into it. We're born into it, human beings don't need entertainment to survive . If they all died tomorrow, it would have no effect on survival...plus the common person has always outnumbered the higher ups & "more blessed beautiful people" so I'm wondering when will it all tip over :o:o:o:o:o:o

    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact
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  • donraven
    donraven Posts: 146
    DischordVision wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..


    We are "retarded"? Statements like that really aren't helping you get your point across.

    Tell me, what would you suggest they do instead of releasing the album themselves and picking multiple partners to distribute the album so the buyer can CHOOSE where they buy it. You don't have to buy it at target. You can go to your local indie record store and show them support.

    Would you rather they go back with Sony so the album can be sold at Walmart as well? And so that the label gets more of their money? What's wrong with the band getting more money that the label would have otherwise received?
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  • washedinblack91
    washedinblack91 Posts: 3,079
    DischordVision wrote:
    philthehip wrote:
    DischordVision wrote:
    getting paid? are you slow? there's a difference between getting paid & being fucking millionaires for years on end then flaunting it w/ your deal on a new album. Wake up! nearly 1 in 10 Americans is out of work but hey at least the rockstars & movie stars are doing good! they've always done good, always will cuz we all buy into it. We're born into it, human beings don't need entertainment to survive . If they all died tomorrow, it would have no effect on survival...plus the common person has always outnumbered the higher ups & "more blessed beautiful people" so I'm wondering when will it all tip over :o:o:o:o:o:o

    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact
    ohhhhhhhhhh... it's a trooooollll... ok now i get it!
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  • joewalshdc
    joewalshdc Posts: 948
    DischordVision wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..

    by the way...this just shows your mentality...personally i think the way you've tried to put your opinion across really sucks...people can disagree on here... but "you people are retarded"...fucking grow up..
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    Fugazi wishes they were in pearl jam's position.
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • philthehip
    philthehip Posts: 2,084
    DischordVision wrote:
    philthehip wrote:
    DischordVision wrote:
    getting paid? are you slow? there's a difference between getting paid & being fucking millionaires for years on end then flaunting it w/ your deal on a new album. Wake up! nearly 1 in 10 Americans is out of work but hey at least the rockstars & movie stars are doing good! they've always done good, always will cuz we all buy into it. We're born into it, human beings don't need entertainment to survive . If they all died tomorrow, it would have no effect on survival...plus the common person has always outnumbered the higher ups & "more blessed beautiful people" so I'm wondering when will it all tip over :o:o:o:o:o:o

    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact

    You sad tosser
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    I've read everything written about the choices the band made concerning distribution for this album.

    Have zero problem with it.

    P.S. Thread title has been fixed. ;)
  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,853
    DischordVision wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..

    im not sure it's completely about money..

    also... "you people are retarded" Nice! You're awesome!!! That was so WITTY!! You need to write a book.
    Full of witty remarks like that!

    you sound like you're a struggling artist in a garage somewhere jealous over everyone else who is successful.

    That's like asking a pro baseball player to hang up the cleats and stop playing after 5 years to make room for other players who are working to make it in the league.

    When the fact is... the PEOPLE and the FANS want to see that player play until he is done.

    This is the music industry.

    You make it sound like Pearl Jam should resort to making albums and releasing them by themselves because they already had success... when the reality is that when you do that.... your music doesn't reach out as far. Pearl Jam, I believe, want their music to reach out. They want their music to be attainable. Not just to fans who are on the website... but fans who might go to a store not knowing what to get... and pick out Pearl Jam from an assortment of albums. Pearl Jam want success. Like anyone. Like everyone. With success often comes money... but I highly doubt it's all about money. I think it's more about success.

    Imagine making an album. It's one thing to be proud of what you've done and be admired by a small group of people. But it's something different to see how your album measures up. If I was in a band.... be my 1st album, or my 15th... I want to see how well it will do. I want to see how well it will stand up against other albums.

    It's the fucking way things are. These guys went to court to fight TicketMaster and you're here calling them greedy.
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  • DischordVision
    DischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    washedinblack91 wrote:
    DischordVision wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..
    WHAT!!

    these people have worked DAMN HARD to get where they are today! it's not like success and money fell into their laps, it's not like their last names are Hilton or Trump! and if it was, WHO CARES!!! we are rewarding them for making us feel good, for giving us entertainment, i can't tell you how many people are alive today because of their music! and i have to disagree, we do need entertainment for survival. everyone needs something to believe in, even if it's the fact that someone else has the same views, ideals, etc as you do. i'm sorry if your life or if someone else's isn't great because of a lost job or something, but you shouldn't punish someone who has worked their ASSES off for themselves, their family, their fans, and for charities.

    punish? who am I punishing? I'm simply stating a fact. My right to express my thoughts as anyone. I have no say in what goes on w/ any filthy rich people or CEOs or whatever you wanna call it. I have influence & neither does anyone on this forum..they think they do for some crazy "pearl jam" reason..
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  • joewalshdc
    joewalshdc Posts: 948
    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me[/quote]

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact[/quote]

    You sad tosser[/quote]

    man dont waste your time on this ignorant prick
  • philthehip
    philthehip Posts: 2,084
    joewalshdc wrote:
    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact[/quote]

    You sad tosser[/quote]

    man dont waste your time on this ignorant prick[/quote]

    I know, very sad man. Im a bloke by the way lol 6ft6 and 17stone. I might have to pay him a visit lol
  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,369
    DischordVision wrote:
    philthehip wrote:
    DischordVision wrote:
    getting paid? are you slow? there's a difference between getting paid & being fucking millionaires for years on end then flaunting it w/ your deal on a new album. Wake up! nearly 1 in 10 Americans is out of work but hey at least the rockstars & movie stars are doing good! they've always done good, always will cuz we all buy into it. We're born into it, human beings don't need entertainment to survive . If they all died tomorrow, it would have no effect on survival...plus the common person has always outnumbered the higher ups & "more blessed beautiful people" so I'm wondering when will it all tip over :o:o:o:o:o:o

    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact

    You need to relax a little bit. If you don't like what they're doing then go to the Fugazi message board and praise them for doing everything right. Arguments like yours are getting tiring and old very quick, everything you have said has been said before.
  • Gonzo1977
    Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    This from a guy who probably steals FUGAZI's music.
  • Zoso
    Zoso Posts: 6,425
    if I was PJ I wouldn't have handled anything with target but I can't agree that they are a greedy band.
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  • philthehip
    philthehip Posts: 2,084
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    This from a guy who probably steals FUGAZI's music.

    He probably still has a Pamela Anderson poster on his wall from 1994
  • philthehip
    philthehip Posts: 2,084
    Zoso wrote:
    if I was PJ I wouldn't have handled anything with target but I can't agree that they are a greedy band.

    You could call us all retards :-) it seems to be OK
  • chicagojammer06
    chicagojammer06 Posts: 60
    how many bands donate portions of the proceeds from every single show? What compels people to whine so much about pointless shit, people should be happy they still make great music, im glad they are making good cash, they definitely handle it better than most.
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