PJ is not independent = GREED

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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,788
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..

    im not sure it's completely about money..

    also... "you people are retarded" Nice! You're awesome!!! That was so WITTY!! You need to write a book.
    Full of witty remarks like that!

    you sound like you're a struggling artist in a garage somewhere jealous over everyone else who is successful.

    That's like asking a pro baseball player to hang up the cleats and stop playing after 5 years to make room for other players who are working to make it in the league.

    When the fact is... the PEOPLE and the FANS want to see that player play until he is done.

    This is the music industry.

    You make it sound like Pearl Jam should resort to making albums and releasing them by themselves because they already had success... when the reality is that when you do that.... your music doesn't reach out as far. Pearl Jam, I believe, want their music to reach out. They want their music to be attainable. Not just to fans who are on the website... but fans who might go to a store not knowing what to get... and pick out Pearl Jam from an assortment of albums. Pearl Jam want success. Like anyone. Like everyone. With success often comes money... but I highly doubt it's all about money. I think it's more about success.

    Imagine making an album. It's one thing to be proud of what you've done and be admired by a small group of people. But it's something different to see how your album measures up. If I was in a band.... be my 1st album, or my 15th... I want to see how well it will do. I want to see how well it will stand up against other albums.

    It's the fucking way things are. These guys went to court to fight TicketMaster and you're here calling them greedy.
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  • DischordVisionDischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..
    WHAT!!

    these people have worked DAMN HARD to get where they are today! it's not like success and money fell into their laps, it's not like their last names are Hilton or Trump! and if it was, WHO CARES!!! we are rewarding them for making us feel good, for giving us entertainment, i can't tell you how many people are alive today because of their music! and i have to disagree, we do need entertainment for survival. everyone needs something to believe in, even if it's the fact that someone else has the same views, ideals, etc as you do. i'm sorry if your life or if someone else's isn't great because of a lost job or something, but you shouldn't punish someone who has worked their ASSES off for themselves, their family, their fans, and for charities.

    punish? who am I punishing? I'm simply stating a fact. My right to express my thoughts as anyone. I have no say in what goes on w/ any filthy rich people or CEOs or whatever you wanna call it. I have influence & neither does anyone on this forum..they think they do for some crazy "pearl jam" reason..
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  • First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me[/quote]

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact[/quote]

    You sad tosser[/quote]

    man dont waste your time on this ignorant prick
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    joewalshdc wrote:
    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact[/quote]

    You sad tosser[/quote]

    man dont waste your time on this ignorant prick[/quote]

    I know, very sad man. Im a bloke by the way lol 6ft6 and 17stone. I might have to pay him a visit lol
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,311
    philthehip wrote:
    getting paid? are you slow? there's a difference between getting paid & being fucking millionaires for years on end then flaunting it w/ your deal on a new album. Wake up! nearly 1 in 10 Americans is out of work but hey at least the rockstars & movie stars are doing good! they've always done good, always will cuz we all buy into it. We're born into it, human beings don't need entertainment to survive . If they all died tomorrow, it would have no effect on survival...plus the common person has always outnumbered the higher ups & "more blessed beautiful people" so I'm wondering when will it all tip over :o:o:o:o:o:o

    First of all, dont be rude. I offered my perspective that does not agree with you. You should not be posting if you only want agreement. I dont agree with you at all. You are infact wrong. Short sighted and you come across as somewhat jeolous of others success. I have no problem with ppl being rich. They give back and that is fine by me

    of course you don't have problem w/ people getting rich! you live in a country w/ stuck up snobs & fucking royalty! Your royal can kiss my ass! Only want agreement? What, are you some moderator here?!? You gotta be a bitch, only a bitch would post something like that...rules? ha! rules get broken everyday..typical bitch..british bitch to be exact

    You need to relax a little bit. If you don't like what they're doing then go to the Fugazi message board and praise them for doing everything right. Arguments like yours are getting tiring and old very quick, everything you have said has been said before.
  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    This from a guy who probably steals FUGAZI's music.
  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    if I was PJ I wouldn't have handled anything with target but I can't agree that they are a greedy band.
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  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    This from a guy who probably steals FUGAZI's music.

    He probably still has a Pamela Anderson poster on his wall from 1994
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    Zoso wrote:
    if I was PJ I wouldn't have handled anything with target but I can't agree that they are a greedy band.

    You could call us all retards :-) it seems to be OK
  • how many bands donate portions of the proceeds from every single show? What compels people to whine so much about pointless shit, people should be happy they still make great music, im glad they are making good cash, they definitely handle it better than most.
  • DischordVisionDischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    Parksy wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..

    im not sure it's completely about money..

    also... "you people are retarded" Nice! You're awesome!!! That was so WITTY!! You need to write a book.
    Full of witty remarks like that!

    you sound like you're a struggling artist in a garage somewhere jealous over everyone else who is successful.

    That's like asking a pro baseball player to hang up the cleats and stop playing after 5 years to make room for other players who are working to make it in the league.

    When the fact is... the PEOPLE and the FANS want to see that player play until he is done.

    This is the music industry.

    You make it sound like Pearl Jam should resort to making albums and releasing them by themselves because they already had success... when the reality is that when you do that.... your music doesn't reach out as far. Pearl Jam, I believe, want their music to reach out. They want their music to be attainable. Not just to fans who are on the website... but fans who might go to a store not knowing what to get... and pick out Pearl Jam from an assortment of albums. Pearl Jam want success. Like anyone. Like everyone. With success often comes money... but I highly doubt it's all about money. I think it's more about success.

    Imagine making an album. It's one thing to be proud of what you've done and be admired by a small group of people. But it's something different to see how your album measures up. If I was in a band.... be my 1st album, or my 15th... I want to see how well it will do. I want to see how well it will stand up against other albums.

    It's the fucking way things are. These guys went to court to fight TicketMaster and you're here calling them greedy.

    um, yeah they went to Ticketmaster & lost...nothing happened..but I give props to them for trying but that was 14 years ago? The fact is when you're rich & u remain rich year after year it changes you..I don't care what anyone says...money is the root of all evil. So PJ, yes gives to charities yet only to ones they admire..I mean if Bill Gates & every other wealthy fuck came together & really wanted to help the world & change it, they would. But they give a little here, give a litte there...go on vacation, make some more millions, have the public suck their dicks ...wow what a life!
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    philthehip wrote:
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    This from a guy who probably steals FUGAZI's music.

    He probably still has a Pamela Anderson poster on his wall from 1994


    Yep the good ol'days when the music was free and Baywatch ruled the earth.
  • PlanktonPlankton Posts: 692
    edited September 2009
    'Pearl Jam' get more money for each record because they are doing the service that the record company would do in a normal deal. That they would be paid for.
    Post edited by Plankton on
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    I'm simply stating a fact.



    Fact you say? :lol:
  • You want a independent band? try FUGAZI, turned down major label offers years ago & made a real impact w/ original DIY mentality...everyone should be thanking Dischord Records

    I've never heard a Fugazi song in my life. I would have never heard of the band name unless I hadn't read Eddie Vedder quotes. Maybe that's why Pearl Jam uses Sony and Target. They actually want people to hear their music.
  • We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:
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  • this thread isn't locked yet?
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  • Bump30Bump30 Burlington Ontario Posts: 446
    We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:


    I think you guys should just agree to disagree...
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  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    Parksy wrote:
    you people are retarded...you're missing the point...PJ could most likely live off of the 1st 3 albums for a long time & from touring all these years. So it's like keep rewarding people who've been successful for good amount of time then we watch 'em all ca$h in, yah!! What about people who work their ass off, have little to no luck at all in life...aahhh fuck 'em..no talent, no place in anything special..

    im not sure it's completely about money..

    also... "you people are retarded" Nice! You're awesome!!! That was so WITTY!! You need to write a book.
    Full of witty remarks like that!

    you sound like you're a struggling artist in a garage somewhere jealous over everyone else who is successful.

    That's like asking a pro baseball player to hang up the cleats and stop playing after 5 years to make room for other players who are working to make it in the league.

    When the fact is... the PEOPLE and the FANS want to see that player play until he is done.

    This is the music industry.

    You make it sound like Pearl Jam should resort to making albums and releasing them by themselves because they already had success... when the reality is that when you do that.... your music doesn't reach out as far. Pearl Jam, I believe, want their music to reach out. They want their music to be attainable. Not just to fans who are on the website... but fans who might go to a store not knowing what to get... and pick out Pearl Jam from an assortment of albums. Pearl Jam want success. Like anyone. Like everyone. With success often comes money... but I highly doubt it's all about money. I think it's more about success.

    Imagine making an album. It's one thing to be proud of what you've done and be admired by a small group of people. But it's something different to see how your album measures up. If I was in a band.... be my 1st album, or my 15th... I want to see how well it will do. I want to see how well it will stand up against other albums.

    It's the fucking way things are. These guys went to court to fight TicketMaster and you're here calling them greedy.

    um, yeah they went to Ticketmaster & lost...nothing happened..but I give props to them for trying but that was 14 years ago? The fact is when you're rich & u remain rich year after year it changes you..I don't care what anyone says...money is the root of all evil. So PJ, yes gives to charities yet only to ones they admire..I mean if Bill Gates & every other wealthy fuck came together & really wanted to help the world & change it, they would. But they give a little here, give a litte there...go on vacation, make some more millions, have the public suck their dicks ...wow what a life!

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    this thread isn't locked yet?


    why? i think it funny to watch this poor delusional person drown in his own ignorance ;)

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • Pearl Jam has not been 'independent' for many years people...... :o
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  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    norm wrote:
    this thread isn't locked yet?


    why? i think it funny to watch this poor delusional person drown in his own ignorance ;)

    :lol::lol::lol:

    I didnt think ppl this stupid existed. He must be on crack or something stronger
  • bump30 wrote:
    We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:


    I think you guys should just agree to disagree...

    I do agree... altho theres a way to do that...calling people retards, you must be a bitch and a british bitch at that really angers me...
  • norm wrote:
    this thread isn't locked yet?


    why? i think it funny to watch this poor delusional person drown in his own ignorance ;)

    :lol::lol::lol:
    yeah it was funny at first, but it reminds me of one of my friends who resents me because my parents make more money than she does. it's soooo annoying. my parents used to get food stamps and worked their asses off to get to the point where they can get BMWs. same thing with pearl jam.

    ah well... i'll try and find the humor again. i'll just wait for another post :D
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  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    joewalshdc wrote:
    bump30 wrote:
    We're still really talking about this? :oops: :oops: :oops:


    I think you guys should just agree to disagree...

    I do agree... altho theres a way to do that...calling people retards, you must be a bitch and a british bitch at that really angers me...

    That did annoy me. I can cope with the bitch comment but bringing our poor old Queen into it lol. She was getting ready for my ass kssing when all this kicked off
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    this thread isn't locked yet?
    kat is on her usual lunch break. i'm sure she's rolling her eyes at this thread as she eats lunch.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    why would someone who thinks we're all "retarded" would continue to talk to us? :?:

    :lol::lol:
  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    i got your back phil :lol:

    although now that the queen has been brought in to this im not sure whose side im on ;)

    but seriously the first poster really hasnt a clue, yeah they cut a deal, a deal that will save the people who are buying it a few quid, make pearl jam a bit, then theyll give a bit away, and theyll keep touring making them more money, money which some of it will find its way into charitys hands so really its win win
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    Im off to eat my royal british tea now folks. Might write Stone a begging letter later. He should give me a million, hes got plenty
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    satansbed wrote:
    i got your back phil :lol:

    although now that the queen has been brought in to this im not sure whose side im on ;)

    but seriously the first poster really hasnt a clue, yeah they cut a deal, a deal that will save the people who are buying it a few quid, make pearl jam a bit, then theyll give a bit away, and theyll keep touring making them more money, money which some of it will find its way into charitys hands so really its win win

    Thanks dude. He is soooo funny. Hope your well man. I got a load of boots here for ya so text me your add and I will send them on to you
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