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    The Severed HandThe Severed Hand Posts: 214
    I concur
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    HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    Cob wrote:
    Favre's WR through out his time in the NFL were WAY better than Elway's, Montana and Aikman had good WR's and TE's usually. But come on Elway didn't have much, I don't know how old some of you people are but I'm in my late 30's and I can remember Elway taking his team to the Super Bowl 3 times in the 80's with teams that had NO REASON being there.

    They always got crushed, but he single handedly lead them there, the joke used to be "How many Broncos does it take to change a tire, one, unless it's a blow out, then the whole team shows up." So spare me your poor "Frave has had a bunch of nobodys to throw to." I suppose all these pro bowl apperances don't mean anything.

    PRO BOWL

    1992,93,94 Sharpe WR
    95 Chumura TE
    96 Keith Jackson TE
    97 Cumura TE
    98 Antonio Freeman WR
    01 Bubba Franks TE
    02 Donald Driver WR, Franks TE
    03 Franks TE
    04 Javon Walker WR
    06 Driver WR

    You are wrong; these were all nobodys until Favre made them pro bowl receivers
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,279
    nathanastin wrote:
    You are wrong; these were all nobodys until Favre made them pro bowl receivers
    One could easily say Favre was a nobody (wallowing on the bench in Hotlanta) till a trade and Sterling Sharpe made him an all pro QB.
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    Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Warren Moon was f-in incredible.

    How about Dan Fouts? Air Coryell was the shit.

    My all-time is still Favre
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    robfest2robfest2 Posts: 594
    Dan Marino
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    WindNoSailWindNoSail Posts: 580
    Staubach, Montana, and probably soon to be Brady once he is retired.
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    HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    Being a Pittsburgh fan myself I was glad to see Bradshaw finally mentioned on page three. He did win 4 Super Bowls in 6 years and I think 2 MVPs(Swan & Harris ?). I also love Marino, but I think it's obviously Montana(HATE the 49ers). Brady and Manning may enter the arguement later.
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    tofatofa Posts: 51
    why don't you all do the evolution and convert to football (soccer)
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,279
    Horos wrote:
    Being a Pittsburgh fan myself I was glad to see Bradshaw finally mentioned on page three. He did win 4 Super Bowls in 6 years and I think 2 MVPs(Swan & Harris ?). I also love Marino, but I think it's obviously Montana(HATE the 49ers). Brady and Manning may enter the arguement later.
    Whil Bradshaw wa a winner for sure, his career stats are merely pedestrian at best:
    Year Team G Att Com Pct Yards TD Int Rate
    1970 Pittsburgh Steelers 13 218 83 38.1 1410 6 24 30.4
    1971 Pittsburgh Steelers 14 373 203 54.4 2259 13 22 59.7
    1972 Pittsburgh Steelers 14 308 147 47.7 1887 12 12 64.1
    1973 Pittsburgh Steelers 10 180 89 49.4 1183 10 15 54.5
    1974 Pittsburgh Steelers 8 148 67 45.3 785 7 8 55.2
    1975 Pittsburgh Steelers 14 286 165 57.7 2055 18 9 88.0
    1976 Pittsburgh Steelers 10 192 92 47.9 1177 10 9 65.4
    1977 Pittsburgh Steelers 14 314 162 51.6 2523 17 19 71.4
    1978 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 368 207 56.3 2915 28 20 84.7
    1979 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 472 259 54.9 3724 26 25 77.0
    1980 Pittsburgh Steelers 15 424 218 51.4 3339 24 22 75.0
    1981 Pittsburgh Steelers 14 370 201 54.3 2887 22 14 83.9
    1982 Pittsburgh Steelers 9 240 127 52.9 1768 17 11 81.4
    1983 Pittsburgh Steelers 1 8 5 62.5 77 2 0 133.9
    Career Totals 168 3901 2025 51.9 27989 212 210 70.9
    A career completion pct of 51.9, 212TD to 210Ints ratio and passer rating of 70.9.
    Certainly not the NFL's greatest ever.

    For those who argue someome like Brady doesn't belong in the discussion because he was lucky to play on good teams, this is the guy who really deserves that label.
    He's in the HoF because he was on 4 SB winners...as a pure passer he is not in the top 20 all time.
    Calling his own plays and so forth are a plus, but most QB's did back then, and guys like Manning and Brady audible so much these days that they are pretty much doing it.
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    explosivoexplosivo Posts: 6
    Troy Aikam most definitely.. Started way at the bottom and rised to the top. Three Superbowls, should have been four. But Favre is awesome too.. I know sterling sharpe was one of his weapons...
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    faithful2youfaithful2you Madison, WI Posts: 778
    tofa wrote:
    why don't you all do the evolution and convert to football (soccer)
    Because it's boring......sorry.

    I see the push to get soccer popular in the states but I really don't see it taking hold. We're a Football / Baseball country. To each their own.
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    fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    For now, I will say Montana.

    If NE wins it all again this year, I will change my answer to Tom Brady.

    Fifteen years from now, BRIAN BROHM.

    Thirty years from now, Brady Brohm (he's only 3 years old, give him time).
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    HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    Poncier wrote:
    Whil Bradshaw wa a winner for sure, his career stats are merely pedestrian at best:
    Certainly not the NFL's greatest ever.

    For those who argue someome like Brady doesn't belong in the discussion because he was lucky to play on good teams, this is the guy who really deserves that label.

    I never said Bradshaw was the best ever. And I don't believe that Brady belongs in the argument because his career is not over.
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    silas23silas23 SoCal Posts: 99
    Bernie Kosar!! ......... NOT!

    Without a doubt it would have to be Joe Montana!
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    CobCob Posts: 857
    nathanastin wrote:
    You are wrong; these were all nobodys until Favre made them pro bowl receivers

    Man you must have a huge man crush on Favre, yes he is one the best QB's to ever play, but to say some of these players were all nobodys until he "made" them pro bowlers, give me a break. Franks and Walker were both very good college players at Florida State and Miami and were both first round picks, it's not like they came from the arena leauge and Sharpe had good stats before Farve ever got there.

    1988 gnb | 16 | 4 -2 -0.5 0 | 55 791 14.4 1 |
    | 1989 gnb | 16 | 2 25 12.5 0 | 90 1423 15.8 12 |
    | 1990 gnb | 16 | 2 14 7.0 0 | 67 1105 16.5 6 |
    | 1991 gnb | 16 | 4 4 1.0 0 | 69 961 13.9 4

    Elway had 2 WR's Anthony Miller 95, Ed McCaffery 98 make the pro bowl his whole career and 1 TE Sharpe 92-98 go to the pro bowl.
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    angryyoungmanangryyoungman Medford, NY Posts: 1,028
    in my lifetime id have to say montana. . .dont gimme no lip
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    SmallTownSmallTown Posts: 152
    Favre!
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,279
    Horos wrote:
    I never said Bradshaw was the best ever.
    But the thread title is "best NFL QB ever!!!!"
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    gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    Cob wrote:
    Man you must have a huge man crush on Favre, yes he is one the best QB's to ever play, but to say some of these players were all nobodys until he "made" them pro bowlers, give me a break. Franks and Walker were both very good college players at Florida State and Miami and were both first round picks, it's not like they came from the arena leauge and Sharpe had good stats before Farve ever got there.

    1988 gnb | 16 | 4 -2 -0.5 0 | 55 791 14.4 1 |
    | 1989 gnb | 16 | 2 25 12.5 0 | 90 1423 15.8 12 |
    | 1990 gnb | 16 | 2 14 7.0 0 | 67 1105 16.5 6 |
    | 1991 gnb | 16 | 4 4 1.0 0 | 69 961 13.9 4

    Elway had 2 WR's Anthony Miller 95, Ed McCaffery 98 make the pro bowl his whole career and 1 TE Sharpe 92-98 go to the pro bowl.

    Brady has had zero WR's, zero TE's and zero RB's make the pro bowl.
    Yet he still won (3) super bowls.
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    IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,649
    gregkitefan wrote:
    Brady has had zero WR's, zero TE's and zero RB's make the pro bowl.
    Yet he still won (3) super bowls.

    Troy Brown and Corey Dillon went to pro-bowls.

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    HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    Cob wrote:
    Man you must have a huge man crush on Favre, yes he is one the best QB's to ever play, but to say some of these players were all nobodys until he "made" them pro bowlers, give me a break. Franks and Walker were both very good college players at Florida State and Miami and were both first round picks, it's not like they came from the arena leauge and Sharpe had good stats before Farve ever got there.

    1988 gnb | 16 | 4 -2 -0.5 0 | 55 791 14.4 1 |
    | 1989 gnb | 16 | 2 25 12.5 0 | 90 1423 15.8 12 |
    | 1990 gnb | 16 | 2 14 7.0 0 | 67 1105 16.5 6 |
    | 1991 gnb | 16 | 4 4 1.0 0 | 69 961 13.9 4

    Elway had 2 WR's Anthony Miller 95, Ed McCaffery 98 make the pro bowl his whole career and 1 TE Sharpe 92-98 go to the pro bowl.
    Absolutely I do; Franks was decent in college, but all he could score for Favre was 1 yard touchdown catches that no defense ever studied. Walker was terrible his first 2 years; worst route runner I ever saw in person; his 3rd year he was good and then he was gone. The only consistently good receivers he's had is Driver and Sharpe
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    hiding wrote:
    best nfl quaterback ever?

    Joe Montana

    end of discussion
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    sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    my2hands wrote:
    Joe Montana

    end of discussion

    that's DR. Montana, to you. :p

    the man was a surgeon on the field. :)
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    eli manning!...just kidding, i wish being a giants fan "wishlist"
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    sweetpotato wrote:
    that's DR. Montana, to you. :p

    the man was a surgeon on the field. :)

    :p
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