Today's critics are quick to say that Brady is Light Years ahead of everyone, but Nothing (is) As It Seems. Brady is having a great year, but he plays on maybe the best team ever. And he is as much a reason for that as the team is a reason for his great play. Brady makes few mistakes, but the TDs he throws are usually an easy toss and/or a great play by his receiver (usually Moss). But if we're talking Of The Girl(s) Brady probably wins out.
Skill-wise, I'd take his Rival, Peyton Manning every time. But we won't Soon Forget about either of them.
Clearly too early to consider him as an all time great, but another QB who was once Unemployable, Tony Romo, is having a terrific year and career so far. I'm watching the Thursday Nigher right now and Aaron Rodgers is in for the injured Favre, and he's just completed 7 straight passes, not bad for a Nothingman. 8 in a row now.
Marino, Brady, Manning, Favre, Bradshaw, Young and Johnny U all deserve mention. But the all time Betterman is Joe Montana. The Brain of J(oe) plus his raw ability is unmatched by anyone. Remember All Those Yesterdays and all those Super Bowls?
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No one ever mentions him, but Terry Bradshaw was the first qb to win 4 Super Bowls and did so calling his own plays. He was one of the last qbs to do that before those duties were assumed by offensive coordinators and head coaches.
Bradshaw is definitly in my top 3 or 4.
The point was brought up...and a good point...I think it should be looked at as who you want leading your team rather than stats and all that BS.
Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
we're watching him in New England righ tnow. And don't give me the "he's good because he has Moss". Moss made Culpepper good, but Brady won three titles with NOBODY to throw too.
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Eddie solo. Aug 08 (Massey Hall II)
When comparing quaterbacks the question should not be "Who is the best?" it should be "Your team is in the Super Bowl, who do you want taking the snaps?"
The answer for me and any level headed football fan should be Joe Montana. 4 Super Bowls, 4 Super Bowl wins, 0 interceptions. The guy was just a winner, plain and simple.
Would anyone seriously pick Elway, Favre or Manning or anybody over Montana in this scenario?
we're watching him in New England righ tnow. And don't give me the "he's good because he has Moss". Moss made Culpepper good, but Brady won three titles with NOBODY to throw too.
Nobody to throw too?? Come on.
Terry Glenn
Troy Brown
Deion Branch
Corey Dillion
Kevin Faulk
Not the best of the best but a lot better than your average targets to throw too.
Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
Nobody to throw too?? Come on.
Terry Glenn
Troy Brown
Deion Branch
Corey Dillion
Kevin Faulk
Not the best of the best but a lot better than your average targets to throw too.
I think if McNabb didn't get hurt last season he could have been one of the best quarterbacks of all time. He was the MVP until he got hurt midyear and the man has never had a decent group of recievers to throw to (minus the year TO played for them and had like 15 TDs). Seriously though McNabb was great and never will be the same again its a shame. I mean he used to make it to the NFC championship game like every year throwing the ball to Fredie Mitchel I mean come on he sucks.
P.S. Did anyone see TO eat popcorn last night holy shit I laughed my ass off.
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I like the Warren Moon shoutout...he even did it in a werid system, and almost took an inferior team to the Super Bowl by dominating the Bills then watching as his defense fell apart and coach didn't let him play AND the Bills run out of bounds twice then back in to catch TDs AND Darryl Talley raking a receiver on a pick in OT.
Anyway maybe I'm old now (I'm a cowboy fan), but Joe Montana never made me think my team could beat him, even on his worst days...until he got old. Maybe his legend precees him though. Brady is great, but he's never done anything more than drive his team to the 30 for Vinatieri to kick figgies, and was part of the greatest conspiracy known to man "The Tuck Rule" which in my prior 18 years of watching football I had never EVER seen, but I think the owners and players all wanted to F-over Al Davis and claimed it's always been in the rule book even though it was never called until a key play in the playoffs. Anyway if Vin wasn't clutch and John Kasey doesn't yank kickoffs, Brady may not even be in this conversation he could be a guy with 1 super bowl, a collasally bad game in the playoffs with a pick 6 (that wasn't) against the Broncs, and a fumble on a late drive against the Raiders. Kind of funny how history plays out. Great this year though.
Zero??
Sterling Sharpe was not a weapon?
Robert Brooks not a weapon?
Antonio Freeman was not a weapon?
C'mon.
driver and walker are not weapons either. No, they are not. Sharpe is about the only one.
ask your casual fan who Troy Aikman threw to, or Montana, or Elway, or Young, or Theisman even, or Esisan, etc, and you will get answers. Ask who Favre had at WR during his career and you will get a blank stare. ask who favre had a RB and you will also get blank stares. this dude carried his teams by himself by making plays. everyone doesnt say this shit because it cool or trendy or they have man crushes on the guy, they say it because its true.
At the end of the day, the only guy on your list that was anything is Sharpe. Too bad he hurt his neck. He would have been one of the best probably. Given the top receivers of all the other guys mentioned in this thread, you gonna pick any of these guys over the top receivers of the others? Come on now, thats just silly. Branch has been hurt in Seattle by the way.
These guys that Favre has been throwing to arent even the top guys in the game today. They fall to about 15-20 on the list of top receivers, and thats being nice.
Favre tossed all his TD to nobodys. Imagine if the Pack did get Moss. Holy shit. Farve would have 50 TD already.
The same can definately be said for Brady. He will eventually be the best ever, but at the moment, its Favre. Besides, who the hell doesnt root for this guy.
And you cant argue that championships make you a great QB. its just not true. Great teams with the superbowl. Difer is the prime example of this.
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Favre's WR through out his time in the NFL were WAY better than Elway's, Montana and Aikman had good WR's and TE's usually. But come on Elway didn't have much, I don't know how old some of you people are but I'm in my late 30's and I can remember Elway taking his team to the Super Bowl 3 times in the 80's with teams that had NO REASON being there.
They always got crushed, but he single handedly lead them there, the joke used to be "How many Broncos does it take to change a tire, one, unless it's a blow out, then the whole team shows up." So spare me your poor "Frave has had a bunch of nobodys to throw to." I suppose all these pro bowl apperances don't mean anything.
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1992,93,94 Sharpe WR
95 Chumura TE
96 Keith Jackson TE
97 Cumura TE
98 Antonio Freeman WR
01 Bubba Franks TE
02 Donald Driver WR, Franks TE
03 Franks TE
04 Javon Walker WR
06 Driver WR
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Skill-wise, I'd take his Rival, Peyton Manning every time. But we won't Soon Forget about either of them.
Clearly too early to consider him as an all time great, but another QB who was once Unemployable, Tony Romo, is having a terrific year and career so far. I'm watching the Thursday Nigher right now and Aaron Rodgers is in for the injured Favre, and he's just completed 7 straight passes, not bad for a Nothingman. 8 in a row now.
Marino, Brady, Manning, Favre, Bradshaw, Young and Johnny U all deserve mention. But the all time Betterman is Joe Montana. The Brain of J(oe) plus his raw ability is unmatched by anyone. Remember All Those Yesterdays and all those Super Bowls?
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The point was brought up...and a good point...I think it should be looked at as who you want leading your team rather than stats and all that BS.
Eddie solo. Aug 08 (Massey Hall II)
Yea I would pick Brady.
in all seriousness, it would have to be steve young
Terry Glenn
Troy Brown
Deion Branch
Corey Dillion
Kevin Faulk
Not the best of the best but a lot better than your average targets to throw too.
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I think if McNabb didn't get hurt last season he could have been one of the best quarterbacks of all time. He was the MVP until he got hurt midyear and the man has never had a decent group of recievers to throw to (minus the year TO played for them and had like 15 TDs). Seriously though McNabb was great and never will be the same again its a shame. I mean he used to make it to the NFC championship game like every year throwing the ball to Fredie Mitchel I mean come on he sucks.
P.S. Did anyone see TO eat popcorn last night holy shit I laughed my ass off.
Sorry buddy but your number one guy Terry Glenn played (4) games with Tom Brady and then got hurt.
Corey Dillion had about 45 receptions in 3 years with the Pats.
Faulk has been a target for years becaue the Pats were so weak at WR.
Brown and Branch are slightly above average at best.
Zero weapons his whole career.
Give me a superbowl MVP any day.
branch has been great since he left the Pats.....
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Mexico=1, Colombia=1
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Sterling Sharpe was not a weapon?
Robert Brooks not a weapon?
Antonio Freeman was not a weapon?
C'mon.
Edit: PJ related: He was in hiding in the CFL as our little gift from Washington State.
Lets not forget Donald Driver and Javon Walker.
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Mexico=1, Colombia=1
Upcoming: Sacramento, Vegas x2, Manchester, London, Chicago x2, NYC x2, Fenway x2, Ohana x2 Aucklandx2, Gold Coast, Melbournex2
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Anyway maybe I'm old now (I'm a cowboy fan), but Joe Montana never made me think my team could beat him, even on his worst days...until he got old. Maybe his legend precees him though. Brady is great, but he's never done anything more than drive his team to the 30 for Vinatieri to kick figgies, and was part of the greatest conspiracy known to man "The Tuck Rule" which in my prior 18 years of watching football I had never EVER seen, but I think the owners and players all wanted to F-over Al Davis and claimed it's always been in the rule book even though it was never called until a key play in the playoffs. Anyway if Vin wasn't clutch and John Kasey doesn't yank kickoffs, Brady may not even be in this conversation he could be a guy with 1 super bowl, a collasally bad game in the playoffs with a pick 6 (that wasn't) against the Broncs, and a fumble on a late drive against the Raiders. Kind of funny how history plays out. Great this year though.
ask your casual fan who Troy Aikman threw to, or Montana, or Elway, or Young, or Theisman even, or Esisan, etc, and you will get answers. Ask who Favre had at WR during his career and you will get a blank stare. ask who favre had a RB and you will also get blank stares. this dude carried his teams by himself by making plays. everyone doesnt say this shit because it cool or trendy or they have man crushes on the guy, they say it because its true.
At the end of the day, the only guy on your list that was anything is Sharpe. Too bad he hurt his neck. He would have been one of the best probably. Given the top receivers of all the other guys mentioned in this thread, you gonna pick any of these guys over the top receivers of the others? Come on now, thats just silly. Branch has been hurt in Seattle by the way.
These guys that Favre has been throwing to arent even the top guys in the game today. They fall to about 15-20 on the list of top receivers, and thats being nice.
Favre tossed all his TD to nobodys. Imagine if the Pack did get Moss. Holy shit. Farve would have 50 TD already.
The same can definately be said for Brady. He will eventually be the best ever, but at the moment, its Favre. Besides, who the hell doesnt root for this guy.
And you cant argue that championships make you a great QB. its just not true. Great teams with the superbowl. Difer is the prime example of this.
SHOW COUNT: (149) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=89, US=109, CAN=15, Europe=19 ,New Zealand=2, Australia=2
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
Upcoming: Sacramento, Vegas x2, Manchester, London, Chicago x2, NYC x2, Fenway x2, Ohana x2 Aucklandx2, Gold Coast, Melbournex2
Toronto 2011 night 2
Hamilton 2011
London 2013
They always got crushed, but he single handedly lead them there, the joke used to be "How many Broncos does it take to change a tire, one, unless it's a blow out, then the whole team shows up." So spare me your poor "Frave has had a bunch of nobodys to throw to." I suppose all these pro bowl apperances don't mean anything.
PRO BOWL
1992,93,94 Sharpe WR
95 Chumura TE
96 Keith Jackson TE
97 Cumura TE
98 Antonio Freeman WR
01 Bubba Franks TE
02 Donald Driver WR, Franks TE
03 Franks TE
04 Javon Walker WR
06 Driver WR
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