I know this is blasphemous around here, but

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edited September 2009 in The Porch
Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

But seriously, what am I missing?
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  • A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...

  • it's an honest question, you could just answer it as opposed to being a smartass.
  • A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...


    hmmm, don't get that, but to each his own i guess. i would say digital sounds clearer.
  • csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.
  • RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.


    fair enough. sounds like more work and $$ than i'm willing to invest.
  • philthehipphilthehip Posts: 2,084
    A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...

    Spot on, to my ears digital sounds like it hits a brick wall. Remastered is even worse. I have 1980 imported Bang & Olufsen speakers and records sound so much more welcoming
  • well vinyl will outshine any album in sound quality prior till around 2003/2004.

    Now i'd say that they're both equal in sound quality and its just a matter of preference as to which you prefer, and anyone else who tells you different, either way, is full of it.

    if music has a lot of FX in it and/or is really digitized like the Flaming Lips or NIN i prefer CD. But when it comes to drum, bass, guitar, and vox or any analog recording I prefer vinyl.

    It's like choosing a tube amp versus a std. amp.

    Also vinyl music doesn't depreciate in value nearly as quickly as CD's and it is the only format of music that stands a chance of appreciating in value.

    And if you're a collector, vinyl stands the test of time (100 + yrs) whereas CD's have a physical shelflife of around 20 yrs.
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  • RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.
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  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    I like it because of the artwork and because it reminds me of the good ol' times
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  • zootownzootown Posts: 666
    Actually I have many records, and I have found that for lots of classic records (such as dylan's Highway 61) they use different takes of the songs than the ones on the Cd versions. so, in many cases, the vinyl copy is actually different than the CD version. And yes, I concur that a clean record sounds far richer, deeper and tangible than any digital or CD recording.
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  • csickels wrote:
    A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...


    hmmm, don't get that, but to each his own i guess. i would say digital sounds clearer.

    Mmmm, I'm very bad at describing this, but in digital recordings it sometimes sounds that each instrument stands on its own. Sharper yes, clearer maybe - depending on the stereo set up. On vinyl it is more an integrated whole, which give the songs a warm glow. That is the best I can describe it. When I play Last Exit on my record it literally sounds different than on the CD. Either way, I hope this answers your question. IMO the way the songs sounds on a record, that is how they should sound. You hear a band and not five individuals.
  • RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.


    Then stick with digital...

    It's like wine. Whether its 9 bucks or 99 bucks, the best wine money can buy is that one that you like the best.
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  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.


    I'd like to invest in a nice turntable setup, but unfortunately it looks to be quite expensive to set up. Is there a good system I can get for around 200 - 300? I've always loved record though. Just the look/feel of them..bigger artwork/packaging etc...
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  • RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.

    Taking a turntable with you on an airplane could pose some problems... ;)
  • TravelarTravelar Kalamazoo, USA Posts: 3,415
    The fact that the sound is richer is fuller is enough to make it worthwhile. Digital is a sampling of the analog sound. Since it's only a sampling, it's not as full.

    I had a better article, but I can't find it. This one should suffice.

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Vinyl-Records-Sound-Best---The-Analog-Vs-Digital-Debate&id=1358120
  • JTHJTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    DS114969 wrote:
    I've always loved record though. Just the look/feel of them..bigger artwork/packaging etc...
    Bingo. That's why I never bought tapes in the 80s. I always bought the record and immediately recorded it so I could listen on my Walkman/boom box.
  • csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    Not sure that you're missing anything, you're just dead wrong or misinformed when it comes to the sound quality of Vinyl. Most people should just follow the herd and except that new technology is enivitably "better" than what came before. Discard what is old and embrace what is new, until it is old and you have to get the newer better thing, until that is old and then the new thing will come out and then it gets old...

    Do a little research into the sound quality of vinyl and you can decide for yourself (people have posted articles on this issue before). Better yet find or make a friend with someone who has a nice turntable set-up. Have them put on an album you are familiar with, tell them to turn it up loud and hear for yourself.

    Quality is never convenient. If you don't listen to music in your home, why would you be interested in a turntable set-up?
  • spending 300 bucks on a turntable alone is probably the best "audiophile" route to take.

    But really, if the difference between vinyl and digital doesn't impress you on a 150 dollar turntable, then listening to a more expensive system for the sake of sound clarity will be minimal.
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  • TrAvELAr wrote:
    The fact that the sound is richer is fuller is enough to make it worthwhile. Digital is a sampling of the analog sound. Since it's only a sampling, it's not as full.

    I had a better article, but I can't find it. This one should suffice.

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Vinyl-Records-Sound-Best---The-Analog-Vs-Digital-Debate&id=1358120

    that's a dated argument these days since the vast majority of recordings are now sourced in digital.
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  • I think its a fair and interesting question my friend!!! I have to admit I do buy vinyl and cd's...only download as a last resort...im still a stickler for the physical item...i love a good inlay/booklet and especially love vinyl for that...however i believe your point is for listening purposes...I have to agree, for listening pleasure I listen to the cd, I will listen to vinyl once or twice but then I would have to admit its a novelty thing for me...I guess my answer is its thw "whole package" you get with vinyl...good question!!!!! :)
  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    like eddie mentioned at MSG last year,

    without records,

    what hare we supposed to clean our marijuana on ?
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  • RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.


    yeah, this is my situation too. i have a turntable and decent speakers, but i haven't bothered to hook them up since i moved recently b/c i really just don't have a chance to listen to music as a primary activity when i'm in my house.
  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    edited September 2009
    like eddie mentioned at MSG last year,

    without records,

    what are we supposed to clean our marijuana on ?
    Post edited by Bathgate66 on
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  • Bathgate66 wrote:
    like eddie mentioned at MSG last year,

    without records,

    what hare we supposed to clean our marijuana on ?

    yeah, but CD's come in handy for coke snorting.
  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    csickels wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    like eddie mentioned at MSG last year,

    without records,

    what hare we supposed to clean our marijuana on ?

    yeah, but CD's come in handy for coke snorting.


    coke sucks
    its so 1980s .

    :roll:
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  • csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?


    Quality is never convenient. If you don't listen to music in your home, why would you be interested in a turntable set-up?

    "Quality is never convenient"

    That would fall under that "blatantly wrong blanket statement" category. i can think of about 1000 things off the top of my head that are both of high quality AND highly convenient.

    i don't listen to music in my house b/c I really can't very often. at least not LOUD and FAST like I like to.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    I wondered the exact same thing until a few days ago i listened to Badmotorfinger on vinyl and holy fucking shit, such a nice round, fat warm sound. The real thing to me is how crisp every note and instrument it, pure definition!!

    I dont think anything past maybe 1998 would sound good on vinyl as everything is mastered for cds now and not for vinyl.
  • Bathgate66 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    like eddie mentioned at MSG last year,

    without records,

    what hare we supposed to clean our marijuana on ?

    yeah, but CD's come in handy for coke snorting.


    coke sucks
    its so 1980s .

    :roll:

    it made a comeback there for a while. you're right tho, it does suck. except when you're on it.
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