I know this is blasphemous around here, but

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edited September 2009 in The Porch
Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

But seriously, what am I missing?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...
  • Backspacer_Backer
    Backspacer_Backer Posts: 1,023
    ledvedderman wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

    it's an honest question, you could just answer it as opposed to being a smartass.
  • Backspacer_Backer
    Backspacer_Backer Posts: 1,023
    fortyshades wrote:
    A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...


    hmmm, don't get that, but to each his own i guess. i would say digital sounds clearer.
  • RD171825
    RD171825 Posts: 456
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.
  • Backspacer_Backer
    Backspacer_Backer Posts: 1,023
    RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.


    fair enough. sounds like more work and $$ than i'm willing to invest.
  • philthehip
    philthehip Posts: 2,084
    fortyshades wrote:
    A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...

    Spot on, to my ears digital sounds like it hits a brick wall. Remastered is even worse. I have 1980 imported Bang & Olufsen speakers and records sound so much more welcoming
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    well vinyl will outshine any album in sound quality prior till around 2003/2004.

    Now i'd say that they're both equal in sound quality and its just a matter of preference as to which you prefer, and anyone else who tells you different, either way, is full of it.

    if music has a lot of FX in it and/or is really digitized like the Flaming Lips or NIN i prefer CD. But when it comes to drum, bass, guitar, and vox or any analog recording I prefer vinyl.

    It's like choosing a tube amp versus a std. amp.

    Also vinyl music doesn't depreciate in value nearly as quickly as CD's and it is the only format of music that stands a chance of appreciating in value.

    And if you're a collector, vinyl stands the test of time (100 + yrs) whereas CD's have a physical shelflife of around 20 yrs.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,882
    RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    I like it because of the artwork and because it reminds me of the good ol' times
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  • zootown
    zootown Posts: 666
    Actually I have many records, and I have found that for lots of classic records (such as dylan's Highway 61) they use different takes of the songs than the ones on the Cd versions. so, in many cases, the vinyl copy is actually different than the CD version. And yes, I concur that a clean record sounds far richer, deeper and tangible than any digital or CD recording.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,003
    I'm interested to hear these Beatles remasters that are going to be released soon because The Beatles sound a million times better on their vinyls than on the CDs that were released in 1988. But I have a feeling that these remasters will sound better than the vinyl.
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    csickels wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    A warm sound... Digital sounds harsher... I have Vitalogy on tape, CD and record (yeah, yeah bought the album 3x); record is the best...


    hmmm, don't get that, but to each his own i guess. i would say digital sounds clearer.

    Mmmm, I'm very bad at describing this, but in digital recordings it sometimes sounds that each instrument stands on its own. Sharper yes, clearer maybe - depending on the stereo set up. On vinyl it is more an integrated whole, which give the songs a warm glow. That is the best I can describe it. When I play Last Exit on my record it literally sounds different than on the CD. Either way, I hope this answers your question. IMO the way the songs sounds on a record, that is how they should sound. You hear a band and not five individuals.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    cincybearcat wrote:
    RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.


    Then stick with digital...

    It's like wine. Whether its 9 bucks or 99 bucks, the best wine money can buy is that one that you like the best.
  • Better Dan
    Better Dan Posts: 5,684
    cincybearcat wrote:
    RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.


    I'd like to invest in a nice turntable setup, but unfortunately it looks to be quite expensive to set up. Is there a good system I can get for around 200 - 300? I've always loved record though. Just the look/feel of them..bigger artwork/packaging etc...
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    cincybearcat wrote:
    RD171825 wrote:
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    With the right stereo setup vinyl does in fact sound better.

    I'll have to take your word for it...being a husband and a father, the time I get to listen to my music of choice is in the car, on a walk/run, on an airplane for the most part. Not very Vinyl friendly. The occasional time I have at home isn't worth the investment in a nice setup and the extra album versions in vinyl.

    Taking a turntable with you on an airplane could pose some problems... ;)
  • Travelar
    Travelar Posts: 3,443
    The fact that the sound is richer is fuller is enough to make it worthwhile. Digital is a sampling of the analog sound. Since it's only a sampling, it's not as full.

    I had a better article, but I can't find it. This one should suffice.

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Vinyl-Records-Sound-Best---The-Analog-Vs-Digital-Debate&id=1358120
  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238
    DS114969 wrote:
    I've always loved record though. Just the look/feel of them..bigger artwork/packaging etc...
    Bingo. That's why I never bought tapes in the 80s. I always bought the record and immediately recorded it so I could listen on my Walkman/boom box.
  • kiljoythemerciful
    kiljoythemerciful Posts: 549
    csickels wrote:
    Why would you want to buy music on vinyl, other than the nostalgia of it? The sound quality is poor compared to digital, and it's not as convenient to listen to. I had a hell of a time hooking up my turntable in my car. :)

    But seriously, what am I missing?

    Not sure that you're missing anything, you're just dead wrong or misinformed when it comes to the sound quality of Vinyl. Most people should just follow the herd and except that new technology is enivitably "better" than what came before. Discard what is old and embrace what is new, until it is old and you have to get the newer better thing, until that is old and then the new thing will come out and then it gets old...

    Do a little research into the sound quality of vinyl and you can decide for yourself (people have posted articles on this issue before). Better yet find or make a friend with someone who has a nice turntable set-up. Have them put on an album you are familiar with, tell them to turn it up loud and hear for yourself.

    Quality is never convenient. If you don't listen to music in your home, why would you be interested in a turntable set-up?
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    spending 300 bucks on a turntable alone is probably the best "audiophile" route to take.

    But really, if the difference between vinyl and digital doesn't impress you on a 150 dollar turntable, then listening to a more expensive system for the sake of sound clarity will be minimal.

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