Just because you wish a lot of things to be different from the way they are doesn't mean bupkiss.
The point is we are given what they want us to have.
Just because you have some fanciful idea of how it COULD be,
that doesn't mean shit.
Just because a million people in the street think they are getting one thing,
that doesn't mean shit.
The elite in control of our system will continue to run it how THEY see fit.
I'm pretty sure that means you will NEVER be getting the brand of "socialism" that you think "could work".
Do you not see the blatantly obvious comparison to all the followers of the Bolshevik revolution in the Soviet Union? You think they were trying to have a revolution for mass political purges, an iron fist, starvation, and massive loss of rights?
For those who DON'T get the comparison between current wishful thinking, and history, here it is: Some of the Consequences of The Bolshevik Revolution, known in Russia as The Great October Socialist Revolution.
People need to stop living in a dream world where they think the fanciful ideas in their head have one lick to do with the political reality that surrounds them.
You DO NOT hand over MORE POWER to someone based on A PERSONAL DREAM about how it COULD BE.
MY POINT REMAINS THAT IF A GOVERNMENT HAS PROVEN ITSELF TO NOT BE TRUSTWORTHY WITH THE CURRENT (& SIMILAR) POWERS IT ALREADY HAS, THERE IS NO REASON TO ASSUME IT WILL WIELD MORE POWER ANY BETTER!
At the stage where a government is KNOWN TO BE, AND OBVIOUSLY CORRUPT, you start TAKING POWER BACK, not handing over more under the wishful (and frankly asinine) notion that just giving it a little more discretion will some how help that government work more effectively (or honestly)!
Some folks around here are like the wife that gets beaten everyday, but swears to herself, if she just acts better, and goes and buys him a gift, he won't beat her tomorrow.
Learn to cut your losses, folks.
Not double down!
well - that wasn't my point ... I in no way advocate giving more authority to this corrupt system ... my point is simply that "socialism" isn't the problem ... a corrupt gov't is ... focusing on socialist principles is detracting from what truly is the cause of many ills ...
just because a gov't can't administer the programs properly doesn't mean "socialism" doesn't work ...
Agreed. I think it could work for people who were determined to make it work. Therefore, communities COULD implement socialism as they see fit.
Basically, you are correct. But what that essentially means is that the only place socialism can work is in a cult. Everyone in that cult has the same exact beliefs and work towards the same exact goals. Countries are too large and, in America especially, too free-thinking to have the exact same beliefs. That is why socialism can NEVER work on a large scale. Someone will ALWAYS wake up with their own motives and take advantage of the system. Its a simple theory really, I dont understand how Marx missed it and actually thought socialism would work in practice they way it does on paper.
Basically, you are correct. But what that essentially means is that the only place socialism can work is in a cult. Everyone in that cult has the same exact beliefs and work towards the same exact goals. Countries are too large and, in America especially, too free-thinking to have the exact same beliefs. That is why socialism can NEVER work on a large scale. Someone will ALWAYS wake up with their own motives and take advantage of the system. Its a simple theory really, I dont understand how Marx missed it and actually thought socialism would work in practice they way it does on paper.
socialism "works" in many countries ... no system is perfect of course and there are always people who operate outside the system ... but if you look at all the countries that rank high on human developement index scorings - they are all socialist in nature ...
edit: but i will agree socialism wouldn't work in america - but size isn't the reason
Basically, you are correct. But what that essentially means is that the only place socialism can work is in a cult. Everyone in that cult has the same exact beliefs and work towards the same exact goals. Countries are too large and, in America especially, too free-thinking to have the exact same beliefs. That is why socialism can NEVER work on a large scale. Someone will ALWAYS wake up with their own motives and take advantage of the system. Its a simple theory really, I dont understand how Marx missed it and actually thought socialism would work in practice they way it does on paper.
socialism "works" in many countries ... no system is perfect of course and there are always people who operate outside the system ... but if you look at all the countries that rank high on human developement index scorings - they are all socialist in nature ...
edit: but i will agree socialism wouldn't work in america - but size isn't the reason
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
Basically, you are correct. But what that essentially means is that the only place socialism can work is in a cult. Everyone in that cult has the same exact beliefs and work towards the same exact goals. Countries are too large and, in America especially, too free-thinking to have the exact same beliefs. That is why socialism can NEVER work on a large scale. Someone will ALWAYS wake up with their own motives and take advantage of the system. Its a simple theory really, I dont understand how Marx missed it and actually thought socialism would work in practice they way it does on paper.
socialism "works" in many countries ... no system is perfect of course and there are always people who operate outside the system ... but if you look at all the countries that rank high on human developement index scorings - they are all socialist in nature ...
edit: but i will agree socialism wouldn't work in america - but size isn't the reason
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
Anyone from Sweeden (or any other Socialist Euro) want to take time away from being shackled to your government and being too stupid to invent anything of purpose to respond to this guy...
Anyone from Sweeden (or any other Socialist Euro) want to take time away from being shackled to your government and being too stupid to invent anything of purpose to respond to this guy...
:roll:
I dont get it, you are mad that Americans invent the gigantic breakthroughs? Should I add the telephone, landing on the moon, bar-codes, assembly lines? Is the reason merely coincidental or does maybe the constitution have something to do with it? I work with a Swed and he must have moved here for a reason. He was forced to enter the military at a young age and fled the country as soon as it was time for college.
Basically, you are correct. But what that essentially means is that the only place socialism can work is in a cult. Everyone in that cult has the same exact beliefs and work towards the same exact goals. Countries are too large and, in America especially, too free-thinking to have the exact same beliefs. That is why socialism can NEVER work on a large scale. Someone will ALWAYS wake up with their own motives and take advantage of the system. Its a simple theory really, I dont understand how Marx missed it and actually thought socialism would work in practice they way it does on paper.
socialism "works" in many countries ... no system is perfect of course and there are always people who operate outside the system ... but if you look at all the countries that rank high on human developement index scorings - they are all socialist in nature ...
edit: but i will agree socialism wouldn't work in america - but size isn't the reason
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
sorry but what freedoms do americans have that peopel in Canada not have. i can give you a freedom that we have that americans don't have. no matter how poor i am, i can go to a doctor and be seen. i have the freedom to vote any of the 4 political parties and not just 2. i have the freedom to not be spied agianst by my own government.
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
yeah, I guess it's a matter of perception...kinda like how some think socialism won't work in the US...I guess the police and fire department, roads, and schools can't be classified as "socialism"...(+ the fact 40% of the population get their health care paid for through gov't programs, no socialism there... )
I really don't know how the rest of the world existed prior to America...
Anyone from Sweeden (or any other Socialist Euro) want to take time away from being shackled to your government and being too stupid to invent anything of purpose to respond to this guy...
:roll:
I dont get it, you are mad that Americans invent the gigantic breakthroughs? Should I add the telephone, landing on the moon, bar-codes, assembly lines? Is the reason merely coincidental or does maybe the constitution have something to do with it? I work with a Swed and he must have moved here for a reason. He was forced to enter the military at a young age and fled the country as soon as it was time for college.
I guess that one single swede is a great example of the failure of socialism...I bet you can paint a house with one stroke of the brush, too...
socialism "works" in many countries ... no system is perfect of course and there are always people who operate outside the system ... but if you look at all the countries that rank high on human developement index scorings - they are all socialist in nature ...
edit: but i will agree socialism wouldn't work in america - but size isn't the reason
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
sorry but what freedoms do americans have that peopel in Canada not have. i can give you a freedom that we have that americans don't have. no matter how poor i am, i can go to a doctor and be seen. i have the freedom to vote any of the 4 political parties and not just 2. i have the freedom to not be spied agianst by my own government.
a roommate of mine was telling me they have a friend who lives in Canada and they say they have no concept of triage, like if you go to the ER with a gun shot wound you don't get priority, you wait for everyone before you to be seen....which doesn't seem like that would be true but even if it was that isn't a requisite for socialized health care, it could be done differently
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
hey I heart. this is not true. i work in a hospital and can tell you that this is a myth. there are prorites in ER. canada system is not perfect. there are issues but this one is not true.
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
yeah, I guess it's a matter of perception...kinda like how some think socialism won't work in the US...I guess the police and fire department, roads, and schools can't be classified as "socialism"...(+ the fact 40% of the population get their health care paid for through gov't programs, no socialism there... )
I really don't know how the rest of the world existed prior to America...
HAHA! My fire department is a private organization. The POLICE?? OMG you use one of the most corrupt socialized programs in the world as a good side of socialism? Hilarious. Public schools?????!!! Wow you really must be kidding yourself, public schools are a disgrace. I witnessed the most horrible things Ive seen in real life during my time attending one of those. Stabbings, drug use, teachers and students in relationships, you name it.
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
yeah, I guess it's a matter of perception...kinda like how some think socialism won't work in the US...I guess the police and fire department, roads, and schools can't be classified as "socialism"...(+ the fact 40% of the population get their health care paid for through gov't programs, no socialism there... )
I really don't know how the rest of the world existed prior to America...
HAHA! My fire department is a private organization. The POLICE?? OMG you use one of the most corrupt socialized programs in the world as a good side of socialism? Hilarious. Public schools?????!!! Wow you really must be kidding yourself, public schools are a disgrace. I witnessed the most horrible things Ive seen in real life during my time attending one of those. Stabbings, drug use, teachers and students in relationships, you name it.
see, it's a matter of perception...and I'd be willing to bet you're embellishing to prove a point, but that's neither here nor there...
I'm sure you've never seen violence on private, for profit soil...private, for-profit places are lolliepops and butterflies....nothing bad ever happens with them...
see, it's a matter of perception...and I'd be willing to bet you're embellishing to prove a point, but that's neither here nor there...
I'm sure you've never seen violence on private, for profit soil...private, for-profit places are lolliepops and butterflies....nothing bad ever happens with them...
I have never once in my life seen violence on private for profit soil. You have? Now that you mention it, the only time I have witnessed it is on public soil. The school yard, the public park and basketball courts, the public pool. Publicly funded places are breeding grounds for that type of thing. Only free-loaders use them, and that is a fact.
see, it's a matter of perception...and I'd be willing to bet you're embellishing to prove a point, but that's neither here nor there...
I'm sure you've never seen violence on private, for profit soil...private, for-profit places are lolliepops and butterflies....nothing bad ever happens with them...
I have never once in my life seen violence on private for profit soil. You have? Now that you mention it, the only time I have witnessed it is on public soil. The school yard, the public park and basketball courts, the public pool. Publicly funded places are breeding grounds for that type of thing. Only free-loaders use them, and that is a fact.
a roommate of mine was telling me they have a friend who lives in Canada and they say they have no concept of triage, like if you go to the ER with a gun shot wound you don't get priority, you wait for everyone before you to be seen....which doesn't seem like that would be true but even if it was that isn't a requisite for socialized health care, it could be done differently
Lol -- I don't know how anyone ever buys into these stories. Just by typing this out means that you considered that there was a chance that this was the case and that is very very sad (unless of course you're 7 years old and still believe everything you hear).
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
see, it's a matter of perception...and I'd be willing to bet you're embellishing to prove a point, but that's neither here nor there...
I'm sure you've never seen violence on private, for profit soil...private, for-profit places are lolliepops and butterflies....nothing bad ever happens with them...
I have never once in my life seen violence on private for profit soil. You have? Now that you mention it, the only time I have witnessed it is on public soil. The school yard, the public park and basketball courts, the public pool. Publicly funded places are breeding grounds for that type of thing. Only free-loaders use them, and that is a fact.
you are very funny. i went to private school and there was fights there. i have been in private pools and have seen people fight there too. i wonder if you have ever been to anything that is private becuase that might be the reason that you have never seen violence on private for profit soil.
a roommate of mine was telling me they have a friend who lives in Canada and they say they have no concept of triage, like if you go to the ER with a gun shot wound you don't get priority, you wait for everyone before you to be seen....which doesn't seem like that would be true but even if it was that isn't a requisite for socialized health care, it could be done differently
Lol -- I don't know how anyone ever buys into these stories. Just by typing this out means that you considered that there was a chance that this was the case and that is very very sad (unless of course you're 7 years old and still believe everything you hear).
i believe i stated what i thought about it...i saw their post and since the conversation just happened today i thought i'd ask a canadian instead
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
a roommate of mine was telling me they have a friend who lives in Canada and they say they have no concept of triage, like if you go to the ER with a gun shot wound you don't get priority, you wait for everyone before you to be seen....which doesn't seem like that would be true but even if it was that isn't a requisite for socialized health care, it could be done differently
Lol -- I don't know how anyone ever buys into these stories. Just by typing this out means that you considered that there was a chance that this was the case and that is very very sad (unless of course you're 7 years old and still believe everything you hear).
i believe i stated what i thought about it...i saw their post and since the conversation just happened today i thought i'd ask a canadian instead
don't worry about it. i find that many americans don't actually know that much abotu our health care system. some believe that we can't pick our doctors which is not true. some believe that we can't decide what meds we take which is not true. some believe that its free which is not true. we die faster, not true. i saw on CNN one day a commercial from the GOP about some women from canada who had to go to america to save her life because she had to wait here. that might be true but there are more people who have had better experiences tham her's. if youy look at our polls, teh majority of canadians are very happy with our health care system.
i am still waiting to see what freedoms americans have that candians don't have. come on mortality, i am dying to hear
Youre freedom is cut down from an Americans by having less disposable income. Money is freedom. More of your hard earned dollars go to the government to run socialism. Taxes duh.
Gasoline cost me so freaking much more when I just went to Toronto. More stolen disposable income. What are gas prices like in Europe? I will give you Canada is my favorite socialist nation, but still, its no USA.
i am still waiting to see what freedoms americans have that candians don't have. come on mortality, i am dying to hear
Youre freedom is cut down from an Americans by having less disposable income. Money is freedom. More of your hard earned dollars go to the government to run socialism. Taxes duh.
i am still waiting to see what freedoms americans have that candians don't have. come on mortality, i am dying to hear
Youre freedom is cut down from an Americans by having less disposable income. Money is freedom. More of your hard earned dollars go to the government to run socialism. Taxes duh.
I love when perfectly viable points are brushed aside as talking points. They are talking points for a reason. Canadians pay higher taxes, period. Did it help them create anything? No it just made everyone content. Did a Canadian invent the automobile, airplane, telephone, electricity, computer, or assembly line? DId a Canadian spaceship travel to outerspace? None of that matters though, as long as the people are content, thats all a socialist nation cares about.
don't worry about it. i find that many americans don't actually know that much abotu our health care system. some believe that we can't pick our doctors which is not true. some believe that we can't decide what meds we take which is not true. some believe that its free which is not true. we die faster, not true. i saw on CNN one day a commercial from the GOP about some women from canada who had to go to america to save her life because she had to wait here. that might be true but there are more people who have had better experiences tham her's. if youy look at our polls, teh majority of canadians are very happy with our health care system.
Come on now. There's not knowing about a health care system and there's not thinking about something before trying to put it out there. Nobody who has the ability to think rationally would ever post that insane thought about gunshot victims waiting in lines unless it is part of an agenda.
Scout Niblett: If you are still in high-school or middle school and you haven't yet developed the skills to weed out bullshit agendas from actual facts, I apologize to you for belittling your statement. If you are over 18 years old, shame on you for trying to push some stupid, ill-informed agenda on here.
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
i am still waiting to see what freedoms americans have that candians don't have. come on mortality, i am dying to hear
Youre freedom is cut down from an Americans by having less disposable income. Money is freedom. More of your hard earned dollars go to the government to run socialism. Taxes duh.
Gasoline cost me so freaking much more when I just went to Toronto. More stolen disposable income. What are gas prices like in Europe? I will give you Canada is my favorite socialist nation, but still, its no USA.
actually, depends are how you look at things. canadians have less debt than americans, less bankrupt people. gas prices in canada are not that much higher than in american it just we use litres not gallons so it might look higher. (not saying it is not higher but not that much)
I love when perfectly viable points are brushed aside as talking points. They are talking points for a reason. Canadians pay higher taxes, period. Did it help them create anything? No it just made everyone content. Did a Canadian invent the automobile, airplane, telephone, electricity, computer, or assembly line? DId a Canadian spaceship travel to outerspace? None of that matters though, as long as the people are content, thats all a socialist nation cares about.
Ummm -- Alexander Graham Bell was born in Scotland, lived in Canada and patented the telephone in the states. Canadians invented the television, electron microscope, the electric light bulb, Blackberrys, wireless radio, insulin, etc, etc.
i am still waiting to see what freedoms americans have that candians don't have. come on mortality, i am dying to hear
Youre freedom is cut down from an Americans by having less disposable income. Money is freedom. More of your hard earned dollars go to the government to run socialism. Taxes duh.
Gasoline cost me so freaking much more when I just went to Toronto. More stolen disposable income. What are gas prices like in Europe? I will give you Canada is my favorite socialist nation, but still, its no USA.
actually, depends are how you look at things. canadians have less debt than americans, less bankrupt people. gas prices in canada are not that much higher than in american it just we use litres not gallons so it might look higher. (not saying it is not higher but not that much)
A gallon is a lot larger than a litre. It actually looks like 3 times less than Americas gas until you see how many freaking litres a gas tank holds. It costs me 30 dollars to fill up here and just over 50 to fill up in Canada. Approaching twice as much.
I love when perfectly viable points are brushed aside as talking points. They are talking points for a reason. Canadians pay higher taxes, period. Did it help them create anything? No it just made everyone content. Did a Canadian invent the automobile, airplane, telephone, electricity, computer, or assembly line? DId a Canadian spaceship travel to outerspace? None of that matters though, as long as the people are content, thats all a socialist nation cares about.
Ummm -- Alexander Graham Bell was born in Scotland, lived in Canada and patented the telephone in the states. Canadians invented the television, electron microscope, the electric light bulb, Blackberrys, wireless radio, insulin, etc, etc.
Are you seriously going to say the telephone isnt American. It doesnt matter where a person is born, it matters what nation gives them the means to carry out their dream. America, by far, is the place someone wants come if they are going to invent something; from a product to a business. It is undeniable.
Wasnt Insulin invented before your country went to socialized medicine??
Youre freedom is cut down from an Americans by having less disposable income. Money is freedom. More of your hard earned dollars go to the government to run socialism. Taxes duh.[/quote]
I love when perfectly viable points are brushed aside as talking points. They are talking points for a reason. Canadians pay higher taxes, period. Did it help them create anything? No it just made everyone content. Did a Canadian invent the automobile, airplane, telephone, electricity, computer, or assembly line? DId a Canadian spaceship travel to outerspace? None of that matters though, as long as the people are content, thats all a socialist nation cares about.[/quote]
yes candians pay more in taxes. i don't understand what you mean by creating things. do you really believe that the peopel who invented cars, planes, telephones or compouters just did that becuase they are americans or could it just be that they were smart and teh country had nothing to do with it. the french gave us great food, the english gave us great lit. italy gave us style.
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well - that wasn't my point ... I in no way advocate giving more authority to this corrupt system ... my point is simply that "socialism" isn't the problem ... a corrupt gov't is ... focusing on socialist principles is detracting from what truly is the cause of many ills ...
Basically, you are correct. But what that essentially means is that the only place socialism can work is in a cult. Everyone in that cult has the same exact beliefs and work towards the same exact goals. Countries are too large and, in America especially, too free-thinking to have the exact same beliefs. That is why socialism can NEVER work on a large scale. Someone will ALWAYS wake up with their own motives and take advantage of the system. Its a simple theory really, I dont understand how Marx missed it and actually thought socialism would work in practice they way it does on paper.
socialism "works" in many countries ... no system is perfect of course and there are always people who operate outside the system ... but if you look at all the countries that rank high on human developement index scorings - they are all socialist in nature ...
edit: but i will agree socialism wouldn't work in america - but size isn't the reason
Socialism is only working in those countries because the people believe it is working. In reality, the people governing the socialist countries are winning and the working class is losing. They have to pay extremely high taxes and dont have all the freedoms Americans have. They are content, but their citizens arent inventing the automobile, the airplane, the computer, ELECTRICITY. Those are purely American inventions, come on, think it through.
Anyone from Sweeden (or any other Socialist Euro) want to take time away from being shackled to your government and being too stupid to invent anything of purpose to respond to this guy...
:roll:
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I dont get it, you are mad that Americans invent the gigantic breakthroughs? Should I add the telephone, landing on the moon, bar-codes, assembly lines? Is the reason merely coincidental or does maybe the constitution have something to do with it? I work with a Swed and he must have moved here for a reason. He was forced to enter the military at a young age and fled the country as soon as it was time for college.
sorry but what freedoms do americans have that peopel in Canada not have. i can give you a freedom that we have that americans don't have. no matter how poor i am, i can go to a doctor and be seen. i have the freedom to vote any of the 4 political parties and not just 2. i have the freedom to not be spied agianst by my own government.
yeah, I guess it's a matter of perception...kinda like how some think socialism won't work in the US...I guess the police and fire department, roads, and schools can't be classified as "socialism"...(+ the fact 40% of the population get their health care paid for through gov't programs, no socialism there...
I really don't know how the rest of the world existed prior to America...
I guess that one single swede is a great example of the failure of socialism...I bet you can paint a house with one stroke of the brush, too...
a roommate of mine was telling me they have a friend who lives in Canada and they say they have no concept of triage, like if you go to the ER with a gun shot wound you don't get priority, you wait for everyone before you to be seen....which doesn't seem like that would be true but even if it was that isn't a requisite for socialized health care, it could be done differently
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
HAHA! My fire department is a private organization. The POLICE?? OMG you use one of the most corrupt socialized programs in the world as a good side of socialism? Hilarious. Public schools?????!!! Wow you really must be kidding yourself, public schools are a disgrace. I witnessed the most horrible things Ive seen in real life during my time attending one of those. Stabbings, drug use, teachers and students in relationships, you name it.
see, it's a matter of perception...and I'd be willing to bet you're embellishing to prove a point, but that's neither here nor there...
I'm sure you've never seen violence on private, for profit soil...private, for-profit places are lolliepops and butterflies....nothing bad ever happens with them...
I have never once in my life seen violence on private for profit soil. You have? Now that you mention it, the only time I have witnessed it is on public soil. The school yard, the public park and basketball courts, the public pool. Publicly funded places are breeding grounds for that type of thing. Only free-loaders use them, and that is a fact.
you are very funny. i went to private school and there was fights there. i have been in private pools and have seen people fight there too. i wonder if you have ever been to anything that is private becuase that might be the reason that you have never seen violence on private for profit soil.
i believe i stated what i thought about it...i saw their post and since the conversation just happened today i thought i'd ask a canadian instead
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
don't worry about it. i find that many americans don't actually know that much abotu our health care system. some believe that we can't pick our doctors which is not true. some believe that we can't decide what meds we take which is not true. some believe that its free which is not true. we die faster, not true. i saw on CNN one day a commercial from the GOP about some women from canada who had to go to america to save her life because she had to wait here. that might be true but there are more people who have had better experiences tham her's. if youy look at our polls, teh majority of canadians are very happy with our health care system.
Youre freedom is cut down from an Americans by having less disposable income. Money is freedom. More of your hard earned dollars go to the government to run socialism. Taxes duh.
Gasoline cost me so freaking much more when I just went to Toronto. More stolen disposable income. What are gas prices like in Europe? I will give you Canada is my favorite socialist nation, but still, its no USA.
So...uhhh besides the talking points
Where's the beef to your argument that this is anywhere near socialism? THIS is socialism...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01899.html
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I love when perfectly viable points are brushed aside as talking points. They are talking points for a reason. Canadians pay higher taxes, period. Did it help them create anything? No it just made everyone content. Did a Canadian invent the automobile, airplane, telephone, electricity, computer, or assembly line? DId a Canadian spaceship travel to outerspace? None of that matters though, as long as the people are content, thats all a socialist nation cares about.
Scout Niblett: If you are still in high-school or middle school and you haven't yet developed the skills to weed out bullshit agendas from actual facts, I apologize to you for belittling your statement. If you are over 18 years old, shame on you for trying to push some stupid, ill-informed agenda on here.
actually, depends are how you look at things. canadians have less debt than americans, less bankrupt people. gas prices in canada are not that much higher than in american it just we use litres not gallons so it might look higher. (not saying it is not higher but not that much)
Edit: Here's a list of the 50 greatest Canadian inventions as voted on by Canadians.
http://www.cbc.ca/inventions/
A gallon is a lot larger than a litre. It actually looks like 3 times less than Americas gas until you see how many freaking litres a gas tank holds. It costs me 30 dollars to fill up here and just over 50 to fill up in Canada. Approaching twice as much.
Are you seriously going to say the telephone isnt American. It doesnt matter where a person is born, it matters what nation gives them the means to carry out their dream. America, by far, is the place someone wants come if they are going to invent something; from a product to a business. It is undeniable.
Wasnt Insulin invented before your country went to socialized medicine??
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
So...uhhh besides the talking points
Where's the beef to your argument that this is anywhere near socialism? THIS is socialism...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01899.html[/quote]
I love when perfectly viable points are brushed aside as talking points. They are talking points for a reason. Canadians pay higher taxes, period. Did it help them create anything? No it just made everyone content. Did a Canadian invent the automobile, airplane, telephone, electricity, computer, or assembly line? DId a Canadian spaceship travel to outerspace? None of that matters though, as long as the people are content, thats all a socialist nation cares about.[/quote]
yes candians pay more in taxes. i don't understand what you mean by creating things. do you really believe that the peopel who invented cars, planes, telephones or compouters just did that becuase they are americans or could it just be that they were smart and teh country had nothing to do with it. the french gave us great food, the english gave us great lit. italy gave us style.