I read an interview of Caleb a few days back and he made a remark along the lines : "We toured with the Strokes and i thought they were very cool...and then saw some pictures of them with Timberlake and didn't like it...but now i get it..we are all musicians (or something like that) !
according to this KOL are influenced by Radiohead for their new album...what a trendy thing to say. Radiohead does remix work, but they never sold out of changed their whole style to get played on Top 40. So KOL fail
This is ridiculous. If they wanna do a remix album who cares???? All I know is that I really dig KOL's music. I could give a fuck who is listening to it and what radio station is playing their songs.
according to this KOL are influenced by Radiohead for their new album...what a trendy thing to say. Radiohead does remix work, but they never sold out of changed their whole style to get played on Top 40. So KOL fail
I don't think it's a trendy thing to say. Trendy would be saying you were influenced by Animal Collective or MGMT
Radiohead is still the trendy band to follow. It's like when Avril Levine and Miley Cyrus claim that they are their favorite band. They are the one band you can claim to like and follow to show others you are deep into music. Radiohead seems to be that one band that nobody has a bad word about- like even if you don't like their music, you don't say they suck because they are so widely regarded that someone might put you in your place. This is why bands like Kings of Leon use their name, it's why Avril Levine says they are her favorite band: it's makes their otherwise meaningless music more meaningful. Kings of Leon saying that Radiohead are their influence for their new album all of a sudden makes their new album sound more exciting and musically relevant.
Trent Reznor, from a very recent (couple days ago) interview with eyeweekly:
I really have no personal issue with Chris at all,” he begins. “The thing I said on Twitter… it goes deeper than what have may appeared on the surface. We were on [Interscope]. And I have had Jimmy Iovine, the president of that label, come up to me on every record from With Teeth onwards saying I should do some sort of urban thing — it was Timbaland for a while, then it was Pharrell for a while — because ‘that’s how you sell records.’ The idea seemed so preposterous and insulting.
"I’m not talking about ‘let’s go make a record with Dr. Dre,’ because that would be kind of cool. What he’s talking about is making your record sound like what’s on the radio, whether it’s appropriate or not. And that’s what Chris did. I think that when somebody who is respected like he is goes that route, it sends the message that it’s OK to give up any kind of core values you had to be the fashion of the moment. I don’t think that’s OK. I think it’s harmful. If I have one major fight in the world of the music business, it’s trying to keep art first and commerce second.”
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I can't be arsed to go through this entire thread, but I'll give my general thoughts.....
So I'm watching KOL from Reading (they headlined a few hours ago and I recorded it while I was out). They sound as good as ever, great vocals, the older stuff sounds as good as always.
The last album, in my opinion, should have been an Ep - songs like Revelry, 17, I Want You and Be Somebody, were weak compared to the rest of the album. If you took those songs out it would have been wicked, and still would have sold shit loads of copies.
What shocks me most is the audience they draw over here in the UK. I've always seen them as a rock band, so I was a tad shocked when I saw them, and 90% of their audience was comprised of NME-loving, Indie wankers. By far the worst audience I've been a part of.
I couldn't care less who has remixed their music. Pearl Jam worked with Cypress Hill before. Cornell with Timbaland and Linkin Park. I'm sure NIN has been remixed by people who wouldn't be deemed cool.
As far as I see it, they are just riding the wave, yeah they've gotten more commercial as they've gone along, but I think a lot of that has been down to the fact that they've gotten better as song writers and musicians.
Finally, those who lump Because Of The Times in as newer, and therefore not as good, are crazy! Arizona is easily one of their best songs, along with songs like Black Thumbnail, Fans and Knocked Up. Then you've got stuff like Closer, Cold Desert and Manhattan from the latest record - all top draw stuff.
I'm not going to judge the dudes off of one album that focused on drawing a larger audience. They spent a bunch of years not making a ton of cash. That puts a band in the position of actually having to get real jobs.
i'll give them time and have faith that they will remain honest to themselves.
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Ever since Aerosmith and Run DMC worked together in the 80s there have been crossovers like this. PJ worked with Cypress Hill as part of a rap/rock crossover album. Rick Rubin ran a hip hip label and still made Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond cool for a whole new audience. Cornell has done his own thing and NIN have been remixed by a ton of people.
KOL's 'The Notion' ep has a CSS remix of The Bucket on it and I quite like it. I don't think it will have any effect on how their next studio album will sound and I'm interested to hear what the remixes will sound like
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I'm not down with the idea of a re-mix idea, but what is turning me off to KoL is the fact that they play the same setlist every show. I saw them in Jan and May, and it was way too similar. I have tix to see them in September, and if its the same shit again, I'm done seeing them live.
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what is turning me off to KoL is the fact that they play the same setlist every show. I saw them in Jan and May, and it was way too similar. I have tix to see them in September, and if its the same shit again, I'm done seeing them live.
I agree!! I saw all four shows of theres this year and they were all the same....Let's see what they bring at ACL....
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yeah, I think alot of you are music snobs for looking down on Kings of Leon here. let them be creative! Don't jugde them. haven't you noticed that all bands usually do some kind of 360 degrees during their career. They'll eventually go back to their roots.
the fact that there is even an audience for these remixes pretty much sums up the state of Kings of Leon at this moment[/quote]
You mean the audience that listens to shitty pop radio stations now that are getting exposed to a great band with a great back catalog of albums to turn them on to real rock and roll? Yeah. That sucks.[/quote]
i know what you're saying but these people that are exposed while listening to shitty radio won't be changed. i live right by the university here. when kol played every idiot i know that went also attended brittney spears. they dont are about their catalog...just that it's cool to like kol
btw..every kol song on the radio sounds the same. i suck at guitar and can figure out their songs by ear. guess im not a fan
to each their own. it's their music. i say let them do whatever they want with their music. i'm a fan of theirs & have been for quite awhile. i'll probably listen to couple of the remixes & if i don't like what i hear, i won't buy the record. if i do like it, i'll buy it. simple as that.
It is disappointing to hear, but I'm not elitist. I dig their stuff.
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I have pics of KOL's drummer (from the second row at VA Beach) if they want to put his face on a "lunch box"....
do they still do that? When I was little in the 1960's, my metal lunch box had Flipper on it, then gradually in the seventies I think you could get the Partridge Family on there.
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They are terrible anyway, so hopefully this will be the end of them so we don't have to endure that god awful lead singer any longer...
my eyes!! such aweful words! can it be true? let me read again...oh dear lord my eyes!! my only solace is that the mods may delete the horrible words, or better yet the thread lol!
i love KOL. the new record took a while to grow on me, but i like it. not nearly as much as 'because of the times,' & 'aha shake...', or even their first album.
i too think the remix album is just a bad idea in general and an overall waste of time. so what if jason timbercreek is a big fan??? who cares. let him record his own song-by-song remake of the album.
i won't go as far as accuse them of selling out. i just think that they should get right back in the studio and record an album that's nothing at all like 'only by the night.' a remix album only delays an album of new material even further.
i'm rambling. so what.
They are terrible anyway, so hopefully this will be the end of them so we don't have to endure that god awful lead singer any longer...
my eyes!! such aweful words! can it be true? let me read again...oh dear lord my eyes!! my only solace is that the mods may delete the horrible words, or better yet the thread lol!
lol sorry I just don't get this band. They are one of those bands that I feel like I should be into because everyone I know loves them, but I just can't get by that lead singer's dying cat voice
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lol sorry I just don't get this band. They are one of those bands that I feel like I should be into because everyone I know loves them, but I just can't get by that lead singer's dying cat voice
go listen to "Joe's Head" about 12 times straight through. his 'dying cat voice' toward the end of the song will hypnotize you fo' sho'.
They are terrible anyway, so hopefully this will be the end of them so we don't have to endure that god awful lead singer any longer...
my eyes!! such aweful words! can it be true? let me read again...oh dear lord my eyes!! my only solace is that the mods may delete the horrible words, or better yet the thread lol!
lol sorry I just don't get this band. They are one of those bands that I feel like I should be into because everyone I know loves them, but I just can't get by that lead singer's dying cat voice
Listen to this song and tell me aint at least 'a little bit good':
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I don't think it's a trendy thing to say. Trendy would be saying you were influenced by Animal Collective or MGMT
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Radiohead is still the trendy band to follow. It's like when Avril Levine and Miley Cyrus claim that they are their favorite band. They are the one band you can claim to like and follow to show others you are deep into music. Radiohead seems to be that one band that nobody has a bad word about- like even if you don't like their music, you don't say they suck because they are so widely regarded that someone might put you in your place. This is why bands like Kings of Leon use their name, it's why Avril Levine says they are her favorite band: it's makes their otherwise meaningless music more meaningful. Kings of Leon saying that Radiohead are their influence for their new album all of a sudden makes their new album sound more exciting and musically relevant.
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So I'm watching KOL from Reading (they headlined a few hours ago and I recorded it while I was out). They sound as good as ever, great vocals, the older stuff sounds as good as always.
The last album, in my opinion, should have been an Ep - songs like Revelry, 17, I Want You and Be Somebody, were weak compared to the rest of the album. If you took those songs out it would have been wicked, and still would have sold shit loads of copies.
What shocks me most is the audience they draw over here in the UK. I've always seen them as a rock band, so I was a tad shocked when I saw them, and 90% of their audience was comprised of NME-loving, Indie wankers. By far the worst audience I've been a part of.
I couldn't care less who has remixed their music. Pearl Jam worked with Cypress Hill before. Cornell with Timbaland and Linkin Park. I'm sure NIN has been remixed by people who wouldn't be deemed cool.
As far as I see it, they are just riding the wave, yeah they've gotten more commercial as they've gone along, but I think a lot of that has been down to the fact that they've gotten better as song writers and musicians.
Finally, those who lump Because Of The Times in as newer, and therefore not as good, are crazy! Arizona is easily one of their best songs, along with songs like Black Thumbnail, Fans and Knocked Up. Then you've got stuff like Closer, Cold Desert and Manhattan from the latest record - all top draw stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBGEYJF8nJY
I'm not going to judge the dudes off of one album that focused on drawing a larger audience. They spent a bunch of years not making a ton of cash. That puts a band in the position of actually having to get real jobs.
i'll give them time and have faith that they will remain honest to themselves.
Ever since Aerosmith and Run DMC worked together in the 80s there have been crossovers like this. PJ worked with Cypress Hill as part of a rap/rock crossover album. Rick Rubin ran a hip hip label and still made Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond cool for a whole new audience. Cornell has done his own thing and NIN have been remixed by a ton of people.
KOL's 'The Notion' ep has a CSS remix of The Bucket on it and I quite like it. I don't think it will have any effect on how their next studio album will sound and I'm interested to hear what the remixes will sound like
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I agree!! I saw all four shows of theres this year and they were all the same....Let's see what they bring at ACL....
There's a constant ringing in my ears
Sense of humor's void and numb
And I'm bored to tears.......
Let the guys rock in their own ways.
the fact that there is even an audience for these remixes pretty much sums up the state of Kings of Leon at this moment[/quote]
You mean the audience that listens to shitty pop radio stations now that are getting exposed to a great band with a great back catalog of albums to turn them on to real rock and roll? Yeah. That sucks.[/quote]
i know what you're saying but these people that are exposed while listening to shitty radio won't be changed. i live right by the university here. when kol played every idiot i know that went also attended brittney spears. they dont are about their catalog...just that it's cool to like kol
btw..every kol song on the radio sounds the same. i suck at guitar and can figure out their songs by ear. guess im not a fan
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do they still do that? When I was little in the 1960's, my metal lunch box had Flipper on it, then gradually in the seventies I think you could get the Partridge Family on there.
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my eyes!! such aweful words! can it be true? let me read again...oh dear lord my eyes!! my only solace is that the mods may delete the horrible words, or better yet the thread
i too think the remix album is just a bad idea in general and an overall waste of time. so what if jason timbercreek is a big fan??? who cares. let him record his own song-by-song remake of the album.
i won't go as far as accuse them of selling out. i just think that they should get right back in the studio and record an album that's nothing at all like 'only by the night.' a remix album only delays an album of new material even further.
i'm rambling. so what.
lol sorry I just don't get this band. They are one of those bands that I feel like I should be into because everyone I know loves them, but I just can't get by that lead singer's dying cat voice
go listen to "Joe's Head" about 12 times straight through. his 'dying cat voice' toward the end of the song will hypnotize you fo' sho'.
Listen to this song and tell me aint at least 'a little bit good':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQprqMdUdPU
I was wrong.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQprqMdUdPU[/quote]
listened to the entire thing, its not good, not even a little bit, sorry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQprqMdUdPU[/quote]
listened to the entire thing, its not good, not even a little bit, sorry[/quote]
How about this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAib9UI9gzU
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listened to the entire thing, its not good, not even a little bit, sorry[/quote]
How about this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAib9UI9gzU[/quote]
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