10 club members get the nose bleeds 08/23/09

Uh-Oh Love Comes to Town

Any idea how many 10c tickets were sold for Seattle night 2? My number is pretty bad (420,000 ish) - I'll be happy to sit anywhere, but it would be nice not to be in the worst possible seat in Key Arena.

logan5ive

moozeekfan wrote:

NashvillePJfan wrote:

At this point, if your Fan Club number isn't 125XXX or lower, don't have expectations that you'll get "amazing" seats.

Depends on the city. I got 2nd row in St. Paul for the Riot Act tour with a 134xxx number.

The 2003 tour was unique in that the earlier you lined up for 10C tix the better seats you got within your block.

logan5ive

Uh-Oh Love Comes to Town wrote:

Any idea how many 10c tickets were sold for Seattle night 2? My number is pretty bad (420,000 ish) - I'll be happy to sit anywhere, but it would be nice not to be in the worst possible seat in Key Arena.

According to touringfans: Approx Seats Sold: 1,197. And that number will almost certainly increase.

genevieve

This might not have much to do with the entire argument but it got me thinking.
(And yes I have read the whole thread)
Wouldnt it be nice if bands (not just PJ) could let fans know what areas they are working on getting shows for?
I see that this year PJ has been announcing only a couple shows at a time. So when people see that there is a show they will have to travel to, then they buy tix in fear of not getting a show closer. That is the exact reason Im spending airfare and hotel costs to go see PJ in Vancouver. I have no clue whether they will announce some more canadian dates. All the last announcement said was more dates in the "west".

So people are scrambling to buy tix to shows too far away and the seats are not so good.
I know other bands dont seem to announce where they are looking to tour in the next year.
But on the other hand there are other bands that will do interviews and say that they are planning on touring in such and such a country at such and such a time. Why cant PJ and others do the same so we dont end up spending waaay too much money and taking up seats that others would have appreciated?

SL169704

covered in bliss wrote:

was this a nosebleed view?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tR24e9w ... re=related

You're kidding, right? I would have killed for that seat.

About 15 seconds into that video, look at the seats all the way up top in the upper left corner of the screen. Those were 10C seats up there....that is where I was.

moozeekfan

logan5ive wrote:

moozeekfan wrote:

NashvillePJfan wrote:

At this point, if your Fan Club number isn't 125XXX or lower, don't have expectations that you'll get "amazing" seats.

Depends on the city. I got 2nd row in St. Paul for the Riot Act tour with a 134xxx number.

The 2003 tour was unique in that the earlier you lined up for 10C tix the better seats you got within your block.

But still, even if I had gotten there late, i wouldn't have been sitting back farther than the 10th row most likely, which is still "amazing."

Five_Hole

littlwing wrote:

covered in bliss wrote:

The Sears Center is something to look at next time around. They dont' do Ticketmaster.

Amen to that...

Hah. And where do you plan to sit the nearly 12,000 people that will be left out each night?

Capacity (for Concerts)
United Center - 23,500
Sears Centre - 11,800

NashvillePJfan

They tarped off rear stage at the United Center for the Pearl Jam shows last week, so capacity was 18,000, not 23,500.

Monkey Wrench

Riverrunner wrote:

Wilds wrote:

More statistical gibberish brought to you by Wilds.



Ten Club numbers 000,001-133,XXX got sections 1,2, and 3 aside from the lottery winners.
Ten Club numbers 133,XXX-165,XXX got 113, 114, 120, and 121
Ten Club numbers 165,XXX-184,XXX got 112, 122
Ten Club numbers 184,XXX-212,XXX got Floor 4,5, and 6
Ten Club numbers 212,XXX-259,XXX got 111, 101
Ten Club numbers 259,XXX-295,XXX got 102, 103, 109, 110
Ten Club numbers 295,XXX-310,XXX got 104-108 (there is a gap here, so I assumed this to be true)

The above seats seems to be the normal (Ten Club, fight to the death to get the best seats in the house) type of Fan Club seats. After 310,XXX the seats got quite a bit worse.

In fact there seems to be only 4 sections in the 200 level that Ten club members got, and they are towards the side of the arena.

Ten Club numbers 310,XXX-335,XXX got 201,202, 216, 217
(These are club level seats I think, and obviously the Ten Club didn't get many of these)

Then comes the upper deck nightmare. There seems to be little rhyme or reason to the distribution.

People with Ten club numbers from 335,XXX to 437,XXX got these sections in this order:

331, 319, 333, 334, 308, 317, 334, 303, 314, 311, 310, 309 and 302.

Most of these seats seemed to be in the 1st five rows.

So aside from the 100 level seats directly behind the stage, it seems as if Ten Club got ALL of the floor. ALL of the rest of the 100's, almost no 200's, and very random 300's.

Of course other people could be mixed into the floor, or 100 level seats, but I would guess we took over this arena in a big way.

The best the overflow ten clubbers from 335,XXX on could have hoped for were 200 level seats, but Ten Club had none.

I'll repeat one last thing from an earlier post. The only thing that should have been different about what went down, would have been for the Ten Club to post far in advance that some people with very high numbers will not get 100 level, or even 200 level seats. I think that would have solved everything.

My guess as to why that happened is this:

Ten Club negotiated all those amazing Ten Club seats. Let's say it was 6000 of the best seats in the house. BUT they said they will take every single ten club order that comes in and if the number of people attending goes over 6000 seats they will just take what is available.

Perhaps they were surprised when they sold an additional 2000 seats and then had to make a compromise about where to put those people. They didn't have time to warn them, cause they didn't anticipate 4000 pairs being sold.

Now that the orders were in hand, they choose to wait until the upper deck shit storm hit, rather than deal with people trying to get refunds.

Just a guess. Could be totally wrong.

You can add Section 318 to your list. Some guy took a poll and everyone in that section was 10c. My husband sat 3 rows from the very top.

I was also in 318 very last row. Made the trip from Toronto. Would be lying if I said I was disappointed but hey...it is what it is/was. Great show nontheless.

Zod

That one guy mentioned he got row 30. I'm also skeptical about sitting at the back of the floor. I'm fairly tall and I had row 22 once and I had a hard time seeing the stage (this was in seattle 02 i think). I spent most of the concert trying to look around all the heads in front of me to even see the stage (maybe I just had people of same height in front of me).

I looked at the chart, If I'd gone to that show I'd of been in section 122. Similar to where I was at seattle 2000 where there was alooooot of fan tickets sold.

cincybearcat

Gern Blansten wrote:

so far all of the biggest complainers who stated they had 200xxx but were in the third tier were exposed as being 400xxx members because they let their membership lapse

I am in the same boat....I joined several years ago but had to rejoin in Jan09 after letting mine go

touringfans.net does not show anything out of the ordinary

Sure it does...night 2

My number is 161XXX ... I was in section 233. I had better seats for night 1. Something isn't right there. I wonder if the box office guy messed up grabbing my tickets...or even worse, swapped them.

NashvillePJfan

Dude, why do you keep complaining about being in Section 233? That is right next to the stage club level. :?:

cincybearcat

NashvillePJfan wrote:

Dude, why do you keep complaining about being in Section 233? That is right next to the stage club level. :?:

I'm not sure you've read my posts, I've never complained. I'm just pointing out something that seemed odd with the ticketing. read again.

Gern Blansten

I guess that is a little strange...unless they considered sec 233 as being a better seat than sec 120 since they were behind front of stage

???

cincybearcat

Gern Blansten wrote:

I guess that is a little strange...unless they considered sec 233 as being a better seat than sec 120 since they were behind front of stage

???

People with worse membership numbers were in 113. Anyhow, I'm just pointing out an oddity. That is the only problem with the ticket distribution as it is, when you get your tickets, you are going on complete faith that they are indeed the tickets you are suppose to get. And then when things seem a bit off, there is nothing you can do and 10C doesn't have the time to even look at the issue later to see if something was wrong...so they can try to improve their process if something got messed up. Oh well, both shows were amazing. I did like Chicago 1 better, not sure how much was because of better seats. It's weird being up high on the side like that, seems like you are just peeking in overhead at a show that the band is performing for the people on the floor and in the 100 level seats.

Gern Blansten

I didn't get 10c seats for night 2 because I decided to stay for that one after the pre-sale

I was in sec 334 first row....got those through stubhub....looks like I would have been in the 100 level near the back with 10c

my seats weren't too bad....you're right though it seems like you are watching overhead but it was nice being quite a bit closer than night one when I was in sec 307....that sucked

Wilds

cincybearcat wrote:

Gern Blansten wrote:

so far all of the biggest complainers who stated they had 200xxx but were in the third tier were exposed as being 400xxx members because they let their membership lapse

I am in the same boat....I joined several years ago but had to rejoin in Jan09 after letting mine go

touringfans.net does not show anything out of the ordinary

Sure it does...night 2

My number is 161XXX ... I was in section 233. I had better seats for night 1. Something isn't right there. I wonder if the box office guy messed up grabbing my tickets...or even worse, swapped them.

yup. That is strange. Not even the worst 400,xxx got worse than a 100 level seat.


I've seen this before. Either cincybearcat had their tickets intentionally switched by someone or a mistake was made. seems like the exception, rather than the rule though.

NashvillePJfan

cincybearcat wrote:

Gern Blansten wrote:

I guess that is a little strange...unless they considered sec 233 as being a better seat than sec 120 since they were behind front of stage

???

People with worse membership numbers were in 113. Anyhow, I'm just pointing out an oddity. That is the only problem with the ticket distribution as it is, when you get your tickets, you are going on complete faith that they are indeed the tickets you are suppose to get. And then when things seem a bit off, there is nothing you can do and 10C doesn't have the time to even look at the issue later to see if something was wrong...so they can try to improve their process if something got messed up. Oh well, both shows were amazing. I did like Chicago 1 better, not sure how much was because of better seats. It's weird being up high on the side like that, seems like you are just peeking in overhead at a show that the band is performing for the people on the floor and in the 100 level seats.

STOP COMPLAINING!!!!! :evil:

Thorns2010

Zod wrote:

That one guy mentioned he got row 30. I'm also skeptical about sitting at the back of the floor. I'm fairly tall and I had row 22 once and I had a hard time seeing the stage (this was in seattle 02 i think). I spent most of the concert trying to look around all the heads in front of me to even see the stage (maybe I just had people of same height in front of me).

I looked at the chart, If I'd gone to that show I'd of been in section 122. Similar to where I was at seattle 2000 where there was alooooot of fan tickets sold.

Oh, I understand that, I'm not a tall guy by any means, but the guy who I mentioned that was bitching about his seat was taller than me, and had fewer tall people in front of him.

Ultimately at MOST shows its about your attitude going into it when you pick up your tickets if you are going to be happy or sad.

I've had 5th row and 7th row before at smaller markets, and I've traveled to NYC and Chicago to see them too. And I know GOING into it at those bigger markets, my seats aren't going to be 'amazing' but they are going to be pretty good.

benjs

If people actually did get nosebleeds, plain and simple, that is not right.
From the Ten Club Tickets section of www.pearljam.com:
"We reserve the best seats in the house for fan club tickets, starting from the first rows on the floor and extending back. We also reserve the side sections closest to the stage when necessary."