10 club members get the nose bleeds 08/23/09

siouxsie

I've been a fan of PJ for years, but just joined 10c in March '09. It seemed like the best of the fan clubs out there. With a member #of 428xxx. I was happy to get to see the show, even though it was in section 310. It was probably one of the best concerts that I ever seen.

From a fans' perspective, I say just blame the fan club seat selection process on Ticketmaster.
Let's say you play devils advocate, from TM's point of view, why would TM fill up the United center with 5000 fan club members closest to the stage, when they can make a ton of $$$ selling to (i'm guessing) corporations, sponsors, etc. Does TM get any kick backs from any other ticket brokers????
not saying it's fair for a fan. it is a business, and TM is there to make $$$.

I was a U2 fan club member since the early 80's. In the beginning, U2 had a small independent company taking care of their fan club members. I always had awesome seats....until....Ticketmaster took over. my u2 member #2xx had to be reassigned when TM took over, and my first concert via TM also put me in section 310 at the united center. and now with soldier field in a few weeks, i'll have the worst nose bleed in section 4-something....but at least i got tickets???hhmmmm. i blame the TM monopoly.

10c is still only $20. best bang for your buck. my other fanclub bumped up to $50 after greedy TM got involved.

Scott36

I wish Santos would just clarify if 10/31/09 is going to be the same situation as Chicago. I'm really crossing my fingers that won't be the case, but I'd like to know now.

NashvillePJfan

My number is 179XXX and I had section 122 (2 sections from stage Stone's side) Sunday and 113 Monday (first section from stage Mike's side). These were terrific seats. I am sorry to hear that some 10C members were in the upper level, as it is very high up in the United Center and I can understand their frustration. However, I think these shows had many, many Ten Club orders and that Chicago is a PJ stronghold. I have been around the 10C for over a decade now and I trust that they are always trying to do right by everyone in the club, and aren't out to screw anybody or happy when some of the ticket allotments are lackluster. I also noted that club level in the United Center is small and that these tickets probably were off limits to the 10C and designated for companies owning luxury boxes, which hurt the odds of all club members getting floor or lower level seast.

I have been occasionally disappointed or surprised by seat locations (though never have I been in the upper level . . . in 2005 at the George though I was at the end of the 10C section behind people with 300XXX numbers). Anyway, sorry to those who were disappointed and hope you have better luck next time -- this is a seniority-based club for the most part when it comes to ticketing, and there are a lot of us who love Pearl Jam and see them on tour whenever we can . . . only so much 10C can do.

covered in bliss

Scott36 wrote:

I wish Santos would just clarify if 10/31/09 is going to be the same situation as Chicago. I'm really crossing my fingers that won't be the case, but I'd like to know now.

was the "situation" in chicago -that- horrible.

Oh. my. god. if. I. have. seats. like. chicago. I'm. not. going.

Zod

NashvillePJfan wrote:

My number is 179XXX and I had section 122 (2 sections from stage Stone's side) Sunday and 113 Monday (first section from stage Mike's side). These were terrific seats. I am sorry to hear that some 10C members were in the upper level, as it is very high up in the United Center and I can understand their frustration. However, I think these shows had many, many Ten Club orders and that Chicago is a PJ stronghold. I have been around the 10C for over a decade now and I trust that they are always trying to do right by everyone in the club, and aren't out to screw anybody or happy when some of the ticket allotments are lackluster. I also noted that club level in the United Center is small and that these tickets probably were off limits to the 10C and designated for companies owning luxury boxes, which hurt the odds of all club members getting floor or lower level seast.

I have been occasionally disappointed or surprised by seat locations (though never have I been in the upper level . . . in 2005 at the George though I was at the end of the 10C section behind people with 300XXX numbers). Anyway, sorry to those who were disappointed and hope you have better luck next time -- this is a seniority-based club for the most part when it comes to ticketing, and there are a lot of us who love Pearl Jam and see them on tour whenever we can . . . only so much 10C can do.

That odd my number is 164xxx and there were some younger fans in my area who had used a brand new membership and couldn't figure out how they ended up so close? I think I was around row 12 dead centre at gorge 05 (gorge 05 had limited tickets though which made seat quality better than usual).

covered in bliss

was this a nosebleed view?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tR24e9w ... re=related

Gary Carter

Scott36 wrote:

I wish Santos would just clarify if 10/31/09 is going to be the same situation as Chicago. I'm really crossing my fingers that won't be the case, but I'd like to know now.

if you have a 10c# of 350,xxx or higher expect to be in the nosebleeds for any of the philly shows. these are the only northeast shows and the 10c has alota tickets for this. thankfully the sound and seats at the spectrum wont be bad if you're in the nosebleeds. thats what the locals on here have said bout the spectrum.

Scott36

metsfan wrote:

Scott36 wrote:

I wish Santos would just clarify if 10/31/09 is going to be the same situation as Chicago. I'm really crossing my fingers that won't be the case, but I'd like to know now.

if you have a 10c# of 350,xxx or higher expect to be in the nosebleeds for any of the philly shows. these are the only northeast shows and the 10c has alota tickets for this. thankfully the sound and seats at the spectrum wont be bad if you're in the nosebleeds. thats what the locals on here have said bout the spectrum.

Yeah, I guess I'm fucked. My member number is two months old, LOL. I really thought the 10C tickets were always better than what went to the general public sale. I figured the warning simply meant tickets would extend further around the 200-level bowl (into sections like 209-213), instead of being strictly floor and side stage 200-level sections. I would be okay with a good pair near the front of a side-stage 300-section, but if it's up in the 400s, I'm really going to be pissed. For 10/30/09 I went with the general sale so that I can sell my tickets if I have a work issue come up that would keep me from being able to leave for Philly by noon or so on Friday. I got a 200-level pair. I absolutely would have gone this route again for 10/31 if the Chicago debacle had happened before the Philly ticket on-sale. I'm REALLY hoping the 10C gets back to their reputation of giving their fans the best tickets like everyone said they do!

Scott36

covered in bliss wrote:

Scott36 wrote:

I wish Santos would just clarify if 10/31/09 is going to be the same situation as Chicago. I'm really crossing my fingers that won't be the case, but I'd like to know now.

was the "situation" in chicago -that- horrible.

Oh. my. god. if. I. have. seats. like. chicago. I'm. not. going.

I wish people would quit being so damn thick skulled. There's just no point in paying $80+/seat for a ticket up in the 400s. If I'm going through the 10C and not even being given the seat locations until the day of the show, I'd like to think they would be good seats. I'm not expecting anything exceptional. Just something 200-level. I don't think that's being unreasonable given that people here claim all the time about how good the 10C tickets always are. If I wanted 400-level tickets, I would buy them below face the week of the show.

Riverrunner

Scott36 wrote:

covered in bliss wrote:

Scott36 wrote:

I wish Santos would just clarify if 10/31/09 is going to be the same situation as Chicago. I'm really crossing my fingers that won't be the case, but I'd like to know now.

was the "situation" in chicago -that- horrible.

Oh. my. god. if. I. have. seats. like. chicago. I'm. not. going.

I wish people would quit being so damn thick skulled. There's just no point in paying $80+/seat for a ticket up in the 400s. If I'm going through the 10C and not even being given the seat locations until the day of the show, I'd like to think they would be good seats. I'm not expecting anything exceptional. Just something 200-level. I don't think that's being unreasonable given that people here claim all the time about how good the 10C tickets always are. If I wanted 400-level tickets, I would buy them below face the week of the show.

Well said. I think that is the point a lot of people are trying to make. I could have gotten better seat the week before the show or the day of. But I didn't find out that we were stuck in section 318 until noon. Luckily I managed to upgrade and sell mine, but my poor husband got stuck up in the nosebleed section. I asked the 10c member from whom I agreed to buy tickets back in June in Memphis to confirm that her number was in the 1xx,xxx as she told me then. She checked it yesterday and said it was low 2xx,xxx. If she is telling the truth, and Touring Band website is accurate she got ripped off. 2xx,xxx should have been in better sections. She said that when she picked up her tickets they were not in an envelope. The clerk just handed them to her.

Gern Blansten

I think it is more likely that her 10c # is more like 400xxx

Riverrunner

Gern Blansten wrote:

I think it is more likely that her 10c # is more like 400xxx

I have been skeptical which is why I haven't been too critical of 10c, but I also prefer to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. She is close to 40 years old so it makes since that she has been around for a while, but you never know. I am just going to keep my mouth shut since I really don't have first hand facts. I should have done that in the first place. And also so people don't get the wrong idea about the seller of the tickets: she has a friend who is in 10c with a low number. The friend's husband didn't go so she went with her friend, thus she had her two tickets for sale.

Gern Blansten

so far all of the biggest complainers who stated they had 200xxx but were in the third tier were exposed as being 400xxx members because they let their membership lapse

I am in the same boat....I joined several years ago but had to rejoin in Jan09 after letting mine go

touringfans.net does not show anything out of the ordinary

jerrylovesjam

metsfan wrote:

Scott36 wrote:

I wish Santos would just clarify if 10/31/09 is going to be the same situation as Chicago. I'm really crossing my fingers that won't be the case, but I'd like to know now.

if you have a 10c# of 350,xxx or higher expect to be in the nosebleeds for any of the philly shows. these are the only northeast shows and the 10c has alota tickets for this. thankfully the sound and seats at the spectrum wont be bad if you're in the nosebleeds. thats what the locals on here have said bout the spectrum.

My number is 430,xxx. I'll wait to pick up my tickets before expecting to be in the nosebleeds. Yes, for the 31st in Philly higher numbers will be in the upper levels. Touringfans.net is reporting almost 6,000 10c tickets were sold but for the other 3 shows I think the most was 1,600. Those numbers can and probably will change in the next 2 months. For those with high numbers it seems more beneficial to go to shows that less 10c members are going too. Who knows, just my observations. I'm just glad to be seeing them at the Spectrum vs. Camden. Has been 20 years since I last saw them indoors.

Beachman44

I don't really see a problem here.
At 1st I was starting to think something went wrong, but after looking at touringfans.net, I see that 10C may have gotten more then the normal allotment of tickets. If you look, the seats keep getting higher with higher 10C #s. That is normal. Granted the higher numbers where higher in the place, but that may have been the deal the 10C made to get MORE 10C Tickets! Only thing that I see wrong is that the 10C didn't say they got more tickets for everyone. But it was a surprise maybe. Really people relax. You saw a great show. You didn't pay all the TM fees. You know it is a draw on where you sit when you get 10C seats, if you don't like it, don't buy them.
I have a low number and have had seats on the side, which I think sucked. But I also have had GREAT seats. I take the good with the bad.

NashvillePJfan

At this point, if your Fan Club number isn't 125XXX or lower, don't have expectations that you'll get "amazing" seats.

Thorns2010

One thing that has been bothering ever since the show. I was 30th row on the floor. Not great for taking pictures, but decent enough to see the band, and see what was going on. The guy sitting next to me, when he got to his seat goes 'Man, these seats suck'

I was in SHOCK when he said that. And I hope he has seen how some people got 300 level, that he appreciates what he DID have, and not be so bitchy about it.

The other thing that is interesting to me was back in the '06 tour I had better seats. I guess that's what I get when I go to the only US tour date on a 2 city tour. hehehe

Lauri

Thorns2010 wrote:

One thing that has been bothering ever since the show. I was 30th row on the floor. Not great for taking pictures, but decent enough to see the band, and see what was going on. The guy sitting next to me, when he got to his seat goes 'Man, these seats suck'

I was in SHOCK when he said that. And I hope he has seen how some people got 300 level, that he appreciates what he DID have, and not be so bitchy about it.

The other thing that is interesting to me was back in the '06 tour I had better seats. I guess that's what I get when I go to the only US tour date on a 2 city tour. hehehe

I have mixed feelings about being back on the floor because sometimes it feels like you're in a hole (as a short woman, it's not just that you can't see band, it just feels weird being able to see nothing but someone's back). But, I'd never say the floor sucks cuz that's where all the energy is.

moozeekfan

NashvillePJfan wrote:

At this point, if your Fan Club number isn't 125XXX or lower, don't have expectations that you'll get "amazing" seats.

Depends on the city. I got 2nd row in St. Paul for the Riot Act tour with a 134xxx number.

BigHub74

Nobody should have better seats then a 10c member period. Forget what the disclaimer says, it does not excuse 10c for giving people shitty seats. It is all about the # of ticket sales 10c, ticketmaster, or whomever else. They don't care about where your seats are, just that you buy tickets period. Because 9/10 times nobody would have bought 300 level seats had they known beforehand. That is why the only people who were sitting in those seats were 10c members. No one else would have bought them. That is why most big acts are signing contracts with Livenation.