10 club members get the nose bleeds 08/23/09

springsteenfan

It's just a band and these are just concerts. some of you people need to get laid real bad.

teflonsteve

Mrs.Vedder78 wrote:

teflonsteve wrote:

It just seems kind of elitist to me. Someone makes a complaining post, SLH posts their number, and everyone laughs and giggles.

i dont see it that way.
it wasnt a legitmate claim of someone with a low number that got 300 level and was complaining if it was Im sure no one from the 10C would have jumped on the guy.
but the guy was bitching about crappy seats even though he has "such" a great number because he joined "so many" years ago, I think its only fair to clarify that was not the case, I dont think it was 10C's intention to ridicule the guy, but I think it was pretty shitty to claim you have a great # and 10C screwed you when its not true, dont you?

Sure it's pretty shitty but I see tons of shitty stuff going on around here with far less complaints. ie. Vinyl and Poster scalping

norm

springsteenfan wrote:

It's just a band and these are just concerts. some of you people need to get laid real bad.

agreed

aNiMaL

teflonsteve wrote:

It just seems kind of elitist to me. Someone makes a complaining post, SLH posts their number, and everyone laughs and giggles.

Sure, it's funny when people get caught not telling the truth and it's even better that they are stifling the false accusations towards the club and are setting the record straight. It is better to at least be upset about facts instead of getting a mob raging about falsities.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

aNiMaL wrote:

teflonsteve wrote:

It just seems kind of elitist to me. Someone makes a complaining post, SLH posts their number, and everyone laughs and giggles.

Sure, it's funny when people get caught not telling the truth and it's even better that they are stifling the false accusations towards the club and are setting the record straight. It is better to at least be upset about facts instead of getting a mob raging about falsities.

Thats just it...

Anyone who truly doesnt believe that the 10club is trying their absolute best to get everyone the best seats possible....is just silly in my book...

And to come on here and just flat out lie about their 10club#'s and their seats.....Well anyone who does that deserves to be called out...

P-Town-P-Jam-Fan

FLESH GORDON

see_the_world wrote:

You saw Pearl Jam last night. I didn't. You win.

Not going to make any statement about how club seats are assigned. And to those of you that got good or decent seats great.

However, speaking objectively here, I'd like to make a few truthful statements. There are spots in the United Center that aren't good. I know this because I've been assigned the same ones the last two shows there.

Here is just my little observation sitting in the upper deck of section 332 right next to all the empty seats behind the stage that they don't put anyone in:

The show sounds muffled. Almost like you were listening to your favorite music and your mid-range or tweeter have blown out. You know the song and the rhythms and know you should like it but something ain't right. And then it becomes bothersome because you say to yourself wait I love this song but this don't sound right.

You can't see the big screen at all because you're looking at the end of the screen so there is really no visual entertainment. The crowd may be cheering for something on the big screen and you're going what what's going on. The acoustics up there are a bit like standing out in the hallway getting a beer and you're hearing a great concert going on inside but you're not quite inside.

Maybe the worst thing is....There's something bleak about sitting next to all those sections of dark empty seats behind the stage. Like sitting next to a graveyard. Just don't really feel like you're part of the crowd because you're surrounded by emptiness. Most of the people around me actually were sitting down in their seats instead of up jamming. That's hard to be around. And, after at first silently criticizing the people who were sitting down, about an hour in I had to catch myself from sitting down too. Hard to think I had to catch myself from sitting down.

I just don't think the music flows through you up there in the corner. You can see a lot of people in the stadium having a great fucking time. But without a frontal view of the stage or screen.... or good acoustics, you don't really feel like you're part of the show. And when you look just to your right and it's 20 sections of the empties it's like uggh. You kinda feel a little empty yourself. Like don't look that way. You say to yourself here I am sitting 10 feet away from where they can't charge people to sit.

In fact, two people next to us left halfway. True.

The hard part is that I've received these darn near exact same seats the last two Pearl Jam shows at the United Center. You can harp back that I shouldn't complain, at least I was there. But unless you have been upper deck and section 330+s hearing and seeing a completely different show; twice; don't. And it ain't about no money. Or how I've been a TC member for x number of years and demand better. That crap's for someone else. Actually get sick of hearing anyone talk about how long they've been in the club. It's about the musica.

I'm just telling you it's a total different experience sitting up in the corner. It's like sitting on a couch when you were a little kid watching your friend play a video game. And he's really getting into it and you're kinda asking yourself, like don't they have a two player mode on this thing, or don't I get a turn here. It looks like it's probably a really fun game but you don't get to experience it.

If I was randomly assigned these seats again, for a third time, I'd probably be too disappointed (in a Charlie Brown way) to go in. Wouldn't sell em to anyone. Probably just give them as a give them to one of the kids outside hustling tickets so he could make a few bucks and take a cab ride home.

If PJ does another big show like this in the Chicago area I'd be up for Grant Park in late April/May. Radiohead did it to major success in 2001.

Guess being outdoors is something special. At least at an outdoors show you know if you get a crappy spot (actually there's not many) it's your own fault for not getting up there earlier. And you got nobody to blame but yourself.

bazzer

CM184789 wrote:

see_the_world wrote:

You saw Pearl Jam last night. I didn't. You win.

Not going to make any statement about how club seats are assigned. And to those of you that got good or decent seats great...

I preferred the first draft, although I do like the insight into the authors thought process...

Parksy

Hi Everyone...

I've read most of this thread.. and have this to add:

I can certainly understand everyone's dismay with having less than good seats at the show. I do not believe this was 10c's fault. As I read.. I notice that a lot of 10 clubbers were in the "nose bleeds". I don't think this was a co-incidence.

I've been to a lot of PJ shows... some with GREAT and I mean GREAT seats...

and some with not so good seats.

There is no denying... (and some of you may disagree) that having better seats makes the show better.
But let's not forget that honestly, any seat at a Pearl Jam concert is better than no seat at a Pearl Jam concert.

For those who want to leave the Ten Club to pursue better seats somewhere else... my advice:

PLEASE DO!

Go through TicketMaster and see if you're guaranteed seats (ANY SEATS) at a Pearl Jam concert. Especially a the first North American announced Pearl Jam concert in one of the most populated areas of the United States.

Cheers,

weekapaug19

bazzer wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

teflonsteve wrote:

I can't be the only one here who doesn't think it's correct for Santos to go around posting people's 10c number?

Then again, this message board (and its operation) has become the complete opposite of everything I thought this band stood for.

Flame away.....

I completely agree. I would expect management to be professional, not react with snide comments and on a power trip. Sorry, Santos, don't mean to be so blunt, but that's how you appear. Although I'll admit my number no problem (400xxx), I think you could be addressing this a bit better than playing the childish complainer's game.

I agree with you in principle, but the problem is these people are telling half (or sometimes no) truths and using their imaginary 10C numbers to hype up an issue. If you're going to say, I'm 100xxx and I was sitting in the rafters, I don't think it's unfair if you get called out for that. You're a liar, what else is there to say? If you want to bring your issue to a public forum, when the only one that knows the real answer is SLH and the 10C crew then you have to expect to have your dirty laundry hung out on display.

He should not post people's numbers, but all of you people should not continue this arguement about one person's story. Your the one's feeding the fire. This thread could have died a long time ago and everybody would have just moved on

pjsteelerfan

weekapaug19 wrote:

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He should not post people's numbers, but all of you people should not continue this arguement about one person's story. Your the one's feeding the fire. This thread could have died a long time ago and everybody would have just moved on

So why did you just bump it back up?

South of Seattle

It's a 10c number. Who cares? :roll:

weekapaug19

pjsteelerfan wrote:

weekapaug19 wrote:

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He should not post people's numbers, but all of you people should not continue this arguement about one person's story. Your the one's feeding the fire. This thread could have died a long time ago and everybody would have just moved on

So why did you just bump it back up?

To hopefully put a end to it once and for all (I know, this will make it bump up again, but hopefully people realize if they do not continue to reply, this will all just go away and everybody can move on to looking forward to the next show or new cd).

imissyoualready

I was in section 319 that night. it was still a good sounding show but i got no idea what it looked like. my seats for night 2 were 'light years' better.

rival.

haha, 35 pages? sweet!

cincybearcat

quitethesnapper wrote:

i am from Toronto and i made the trip to Chicago for both shows, the first night i was in 314 row 2, the seats weren't the worst but they were definitely not what i am used to getting from the 10C considering the show in Toronto on the Friday i was sitting 20 rows back, i was definitely pleased on Monday night when i got section 113 4th row on McCready's side. the feedback from the other 10C members around me on Sunday was that the season ticket holders got first crack at all the good seats and some of the floors were being sold through ticketmaster, i'm sure the 10C did their best for us, can't wait to see what i get in L.A. and the four Philly shows

Ok, so you got sec 314 night 1, and section 113 night 2

My membership number 161XXX, got section 113 night 1 and section 233 night 2...

It doesn't makes sense. I wish Santos would chime in on this type of situation with some 10C membership numbers...hell, I'd just like some sort of an answer as to how this can make any sense...that's all

Gern Blansten

Parksy wrote:

Hi Everyone...

I've read most of this thread.. and have this to add:

I can certainly understand everyone's dismay with having less than good seats at the show. I do not believe this was 10c's fault. As I read.. I notice that a lot of 10 clubbers were in the "nose bleeds". I don't think this was a co-incidence.

I've been to a lot of PJ shows... some with GREAT and I mean GREAT seats...

and some with not so good seats.

There is no denying... (and some of you may disagree) that having better seats makes the show better.
But let's not forget that honestly, any seat at a Pearl Jam concert is better than no seat at a Pearl Jam concert.

For those who want to leave the Ten Club to pursue better seats somewhere else... my advice:

PLEASE DO!

Go through TicketMaster and see if you're guaranteed seats (ANY SEATS) at a Pearl Jam concert. Especially a the first North American announced Pearl Jam concert in one of the most populated areas of the United States.

Cheers,

agreed....I was "disappointed" with sec 307 but knowing that this was the first US tour date announced and the place was packed with 10c members I certainly understand the problem.

There really isn't anything we can expect 10c to do regarding this....it isn't likely to happen again and if it does we've learned to expect it

it isn't a perfect system but it probably works best for them and it seems to work very well for everyone else under normal circumstances....I'm willing to take a hit every now and then for PJ (being member # 427xxx)

blazedoutbee

I'm fucked for philly.... 369XXX Long as I get in the building is all that matters. thanks 10 club...

traveljunkie

cincybearcat wrote:

quitethesnapper wrote:

i am from Toronto and i made the trip to Chicago for both shows, the first night i was in 314 row 2, the seats weren't the worst but they were definitely not what i am used to getting from the 10C considering the show in Toronto on the Friday i was sitting 20 rows back, i was definitely pleased on Monday night when i got section 113 4th row on McCready's side. the feedback from the other 10C members around me on Sunday was that the season ticket holders got first crack at all the good seats and some of the floors were being sold through ticketmaster, i'm sure the 10C did their best for us, can't wait to see what i get in L.A. and the four Philly shows

Ok, so you got sec 314 night 1, and section 113 night 2

My membership number 161XXX, got section 113 night 1 and section 233 night 2...

It doesn't makes sense. I wish Santos would chime in on this type of situation with some 10C membership numbers...hell, I'd just like some sort of an answer as to how this can make any sense...that's all

Yep. And I'm curious to know if section 114 (basically behind the stage) is really considered a better seat than one in section 113. Personally, I think not. And I've seen people with higher numbers than ours saying that they had that section (113) on Monday night. We were super close to the stage, yes, but as someone else mentioned in an earlier post, when you're the last section before the curtain (and we were on the aisle with no one to the left of us - just empty seats and a curtain), you feel completely disconnected from the show. And, IMO, the sound definitely suffers in that area of an arena.

Though, cincy, your situation seems much more questionable than mine. I know that everyone in our section had a similar 10C number to us. I'm just finding it difficult to believe that that section is considered better than one where you can actually see the stage and hear the music the way it's meant to be heard.

2-feign-reluctance

make it go away, please.