Ed and Jesus

blondieblue227

But that’s where the Christians claim faith. Oh, you have to believe, it’s called faith. That’s how they get around the 'truth' issue in my opinion.

And there are some SMART people in high places that believe the Bible. Or have faith, whatever you want to call it. They believe stuff in the Bible for fact. That’s what scares me. Supposedly these high ranking smart people say they can they can work without their religion getting in the way. Which is great. I mean people of faith do sometimes have good morals BUT how can somebody that truly believes in something cut that part of themselves off when making decisions?

People say live and let live. I won’t bother you if you don’t bother me. It’s not as cut and dry as that. People in high positions are making decisions that may be involuntary or voluntary tainted by their religious beliefs. You are affected by other peoples beliefs.

soulsinging

darthvedder81 wrote:

darthvedder81 wrote:

"People on death row, the treatment of animals, women's right to choose. So much in America is based on religious fundamentalist Christianity. Grow up! This is the modern world!" - Ed Vedder

I'm going to pull this quote out again when Eddie finds Jesus 5 years from now.

The treatment of animals/pro-choice stuff I understand as Ed's being blaring about that for eons. What's with the "death row" deal? We should release all of our convicted violent criminals? WTF?

P.S. I think some of that might be paraphrased. "Grow up! This is the modern world!" is a really petty and childish statement. Ed's more thoughtful than that.

This is why religious people shouldn't be allowed to vote. Clearly, there are only 2 ways to deal with serious criminals... execute them or release them like the godless libs want :roll: Never mind that we've spent billions building these kick ass super max prison. We couldn't just toss them in there for life, could we? Talk about thinking. There's no middle ground with you people.

I hope Ed takes a piss on the cross next show, just to give you all an aneurysm.

As to me, if the band espoused views I found problematic, I wouldn't care. If it crept into the lyrics and annoyed me, I wouldn't listen to it. But I sure as hell wouldn't be going on their message board posting about how I hope they find Jesus one day or whatever nonsense you want. This is why I don't give a damn about country music. Funny how all the best music comes from seculars There's a whole rack of shitty Christian rock for you to browse if Ed hurts your feelings.

Cosmo

And the other thing... why to I have to look for Jesus?
If He is Lord God and Saviour... and all powerful... can't He find me?
Or is He just not looking for me because He doesn't give a crap about me?

soulsinging

Cosmo wrote:

And the other thing... why to I have to look for Jesus?
If He is Lord God and Saviour... and all powerful... can't He find me?
Or is He just not looking for me because He doesn't give a crap about me?

Let's join/start The Church of God the Utterly Indifferent

keeponrockin

soulsinging wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

And the other thing... why to I have to look for Jesus?
If He is Lord God and Saviour... and all powerful... can't He find me?
Or is He just not looking for me because He doesn't give a crap about me?

Let's join/start The Church of God the Utterly Indifferent

Can I join?

Byrnzie

darthvedder81 wrote:

blondieblue227 wrote:

hey, he might.
if the church ever gets with the mordern times, he might.

I think it would be awesome if Eddie Vedder himself goes all Stephen Baldwin/Kirk Cameron on everyone. Peoples heads would explode and all the rabid lefty Jammers would blow their collective gaskets. My worldview is polar opposite of Ed but I still love the band and their music. What if the shoe was on the other foot for the rest of you?

With regard to your comment about lefties, do you think that if Jesus had actually lived - which he didn't, as there's absolutely no historical evidence to support this claim - that he would have voted Democrat or Republican?

Personally, someone who introduces a new way of looking at the world/a new belief system, and who challenges the power structures of the day, strikes me as someone who wouldn't be going out hunting with Dick Cheney or bouncing around at a Ted Nugent concert.

VINNY GOOMBA

Byrnzie wrote:

Personally, someone who introduces a new way of looking at the world/a new belief system, and who challenges the power structures of the day, strikes me as someone who wouldn't be going out hunting with Dick Cheney or bouncing around at a Ted Nugent concert.

You're right. He likely wouldn't vote at all, or he'd probably be a Libertarian!

Welcome back Byrnz!

Byrnzie

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Personally, someone who introduces a new way of looking at the world/a new belief system, and who challenges the power structures of the day, strikes me as someone who wouldn't be going out hunting with Dick Cheney or bouncing around at a Ted Nugent concert.

You're right. He likely wouldn't vote at all, or he'd probably be a Libertarian!

Welcome back Byrnz!

Jesus stole my hotrod! :twisted:

BinFrog

Byrnzie wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Personally, someone who introduces a new way of looking at the world/a new belief system, and who challenges the power structures of the day, strikes me as someone who wouldn't be going out hunting with Dick Cheney or bouncing around at a Ted Nugent concert.

You're right. He likely wouldn't vote at all, or he'd probably be a Libertarian!

Welcome back Byrnz!

Jesus stole my hotrod! :twisted:

It's a love affair...

milarso

darthvedder81 wrote:

"People on death row, the treatment of animals, women's right to choose. So much in America is based on religious fundamentalist Christianity. Grow up! This is the modern world!" - Ed Vedder

I'm going to pull this quote out again when Eddie finds Jesus 5 years from now.

I think "fundamentalist Christianity" is the key phrase here...

BhagavadGita

darthvedder81 wrote:

"People on death row, the treatment of animals, women's right to choose. So much in America is based on religious fundamentalist Christianity. Grow up! This is the modern world!" - Ed Vedder

I'm going to pull this quote out again when Eddie finds Jesus 5 years from now.

I imagine there is a reward fee. Wonder if Ed will donate it to mental illness research finally.....

Byrnzie

I'm tempted to start a thread called "Ed and Santa Claus". :P

Random_Wookie

how can people in this day and age still belive what religion tells them as fact? I know their is no real way to prove or disprove the jesus actualy existed, but anyone with any thought would have to go with the fact that jesus did not exsist. This would be due to the fact that the bible was written 200 years or so after jesus had died, and their is no real evidence of anything that was said or done. Religion to me is another form of control.

Gern Blansten

I'll never cease to be amazed at how religion blinds you of rational thought

DeLukin

Gern Blansten wrote:

I'll never cease to be amazed at how religion blinds you of rational thought

I've always felt that excess reason blinds you of your ability to have faith in anything. If we had both in moderation the world would be a much better place...