When the music's over....

yellowbird

dangerboy wrote:

it took you two minutes to read that post?

you crack me up!

i do agree with your earlier post. it does seem like the political stuff is more predominant now.
maybe the band feels they are on a mission
a mission......from GOD!

iamica

Repeat after me, kids:

PEARL JAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN POLITICAL. Ever since the very beginning.

Very good. You may now have a cookie.

muiren77

time for me to sign off...























but will be back a few hours from now after catching up some sleep...

Joanne

dangerboy wrote:

ok, then, will y'all admit that the music itself has gotten more political over the years? most of the first 5 albums were more about human interactive relationships than politics, imho....

Human interaction and relationships that are more consistent with the themes surrounding social justice causes and economic inequality. The Album ten has songs about guns, mental health, the environment, homelessness. And that's just one album.

You just weren't listening closely enough.

U R A Crazy Breed

let the door knob hit ya where the dog should'a bit ya!!

LoveBoatAdmiral

sagapo1 wrote:

There's always the music, if you are, in fact, a true fan of it.
I love Tool. Love the music. Saw the band in Rolling Stone years ago. I got a little creaped out. I think the lead singer was in a bra.
I hate when people dress up like halloween and play music.. blah, blah, blah. I have never seen Tool live. Sometimes to my regret. But my point is, I still listen to their records all the time. For me, it's their music.
It's all that really matters for me, anyhow.

If you get a chance to see them, I suggest it.

Maynard is a couple fries short of a Happy Meal, though.

BinFrog

Porchsitter wrote:

You know what I don't understand. Why people find it necessary to announce they are no longer fans. Why go through the effort? Just leave. It's as simple as that. Another thing I don't understand is why people let their politics affect their taste in entertainment. For instance, I'm a conservative, but if I allowed my political beliefs to determine what I liked, I'd be a Toby Keith fan (God forbid).

Bottom line: just leave. That is all you need to do.

It's just a cry for attention, plain and simple.

dangerboy

Joanne wrote:

Human interaction and relationships that are more consistent with the themes surrounding social justice causes and economic inequality. The Album ten has songs about guns, mental health, the environment, homelessness. And that's just one album.

You just weren't listening closely enough.

yeah i was listening. let me ask you some stuff. (i know you may not have said these songs were political, but they were referenced earlier in the thread as being political). i am interested in how others view this stuff, i guess...

even flow. ok homelessness. but it's more a description of a particular homeless individual's circumstance. i suppose you cold argue that the "legal halls of shame" line, is maybe political, but not very overt. these lyrics describe his circumstance, but don't directly indicate a political position or commentary. sure, there's his lack of education, his disillusionment with religion, his possibly false hope that things will change, and even the dismissive "whispering hands" of society in general...but where's the overt political commentary? a valid description of the condition of a certain segment of society is not necessarily a political one, nor is wanting everyone to succeed necessarily the property of one political slant or another.

garden. ok, i can see where the commentary about "man's willingness to go to war" can be interpreted from this. but that's humanity, not politics. haven't wars been started and supported by people of all political ilks? again, not the property of one political party or another, imho

why go is about mental illness. how is that political? even if you were to make a leap that mental illness is a political issue, how is it addressed in this song?

porch. i suppose one could argue that there is some political content here, but to me it seems more to be a statement of independance, of not just accepting the status quo. that could be attributed to anyone finding themselves in life, not of any particular political leaning...

deep. seems to me to be about drug addiction and thoughts of suicide. where's the politics?

release. self-realization and independence. politics?

once. is this about guns, or insanity? even if you say it's about guns, how is it political?

oceans? alive?

and i guess jeremy. ok, there's a gun. and there's insanity. but where's the political commentary? seems to be more the recounting of an event, and maybe some veiled commentary about the people in the life of this individual who did not treat him properly. but again, where's the overt political commentary?

what song on ten is about the environment? oceans? not exactly. seems to be about being seperated from someone you love...

what song on ten is about guns? a gun appears in a couple of them, but how are they spoken about politically?

to me, these songs seem overtly about realtionships. love. self-realization. a young person trying to find their way in life, discovering their own ideas. politics in any of these songs would have to be based on interpretation of vague metaphor, as opposed to outright statement, wouldn't they?


now, vs, i'll give you wma, glorified g. even dissident. but leash? it's about the same girl as in why go. daugher? child abuse, but is that political issue? does one party favor it, and one not? blood? ed's view of the media's treatment of him. not political.


just my opinions, of course

LeatherMosquitoMan

I still, and always will, love Michael Jackson's music.

rupy017

What? U either like the music or you don't. Why let the band's political views turn you off to their music? Eddie backed Obama. I chose to vote for Ron Santo. Now I can't listen to PJ anymore?
Come on dude! Lighten up!!