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Backspacer and Avocado

mach271mach271 Posts: 562
edited August 2009 in The Porch
Backspacer is soft, and delicate....

Avocado is mean, loud and fucking angry!

MARK MY WORDS...THER ARE GOING TO BE ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE AVOCADO MORE AFTER THEY HEAR BACKSPACER!

Im spinning Avocado now....................
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  • En La ClandestinidadEn La Clandestinidad Telford, PA by way of Kansas City, MO and Milwaukee, WI, Phoenix, AZ and East Greenbush, NY Posts: 3,650
    Apparently you are the fella who has heard the whole album, but from what I have heard which are just their officially released stuff, The Fixer, Got Some, Speed of Sound and the little snippet of Just Breathe and so far I find it far superior to avocado and I really love that album.

    I cannot friggin' wait for it. What is your favorite song from the new album, I am curious.
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  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    Force Nature
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    edited August 2009
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is soft, and delicate....

    Avocado is mean, loud and fucking angry!

    MARK MY WORDS...THER ARE GOING TO BE ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE AVOCADO MORE AFTER THEY HEAR BACKSPACER!

    Im spinning Avocado now....................
    I don't know.. I LOVE Avocado, but judging by Ed's solo performances, Unthought Known and Speed of Sound are better than anything off of it.. I get that, that it's an angrier album, but the song writing seems better on Backspacer so far.
    Post edited by LikeAnOcean on
  • NothinGBetteRPJMaNNothinGBetteRPJMaN Posts: 530
    demoderbydrvr wrote:
    Apparently you are the fella who has heard the whole album, but from what I have heard which are just their officially released stuff, The Fixer, Got Some, Speed of Sound and the little snippet of Just Breathe and so far I find it far superior to avocado and I really love that album.

    I cannot friggin' wait for it. What is your favorite song from the new album, I am curious.

    Where can I hear Speed of Sound??
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    mach271 wrote:
    Force Nature

    care to say why?
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is soft, and delicate....

    Avocado is mean, loud and fucking angry!

    MARK MY WORDS...THER ARE GOING TO BE ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE AVOCADO MORE AFTER THEY HEAR BACKSPACER!

    Im spinning Avocado now....................
    I don't know.. I LOVE Avocado, but judging by Ed's solo performances, Unthought Known and Speed of Sound are better than anything off of it.

    Better than Severand hand/come back/marker/inside job/unemployable?

    NOT-EVEN-CLOSE
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    NothinGBetteRPJMaN wrote:
    demoderbydrvr wrote:
    Apparently you are the fella who has heard the whole album, but from what I have heard which are just their officially released stuff, The Fixer, Got Some, Speed of Sound and the little snippet of Just Breathe and so far I find it far superior to avocado and I really love that album.

    I cannot friggin' wait for it. What is your favorite song from the new album, I am curious.

    Where can I hear Speed of Sound??
    Ed demo..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW3fDhdT6G8
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    LMFAO....

    The opening 4 mins of INSIDE JOB pretty much torches Backspacer
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    mach271 wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is soft, and delicate....

    Avocado is mean, loud and fucking angry!

    MARK MY WORDS...THER ARE GOING TO BE ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE AVOCADO MORE AFTER THEY HEAR BACKSPACER!

    Im spinning Avocado now....................
    I don't know.. I LOVE Avocado, but judging by Ed's solo performances, Unthought Known and Speed of Sound are better than anything off of it.

    Better than Severand hand/come back/marker/inside job/unemployable?

    NOT-EVEN-CLOSE
    I can see I'm going to like Backspacer more than you.. I never liked Comeback. Severed Hand is OK.. The highlights of that album for me are Life Wasted, Marker in the Sand, Unemployable and Army Reserve.
  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    mach271 wrote:
    Better than Severand hand/come back/marker/inside job/unemployable?

    NOT-EVEN-CLOSE

    Substitute Gone for Comeback and you've got my least favorite songs on S/T. I'm glad you don't think i'll like Backspacer!!
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    If your looking for a record that jams, and rocks...BACKSPACER is not gonna fill that void....if you like the slow poppy type if ITW shit, then its right up your alley....

    As for me my fav record of all time is VITALOGY so you know where i stand
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    Gardenparty wrote:
    mach271 wrote:
    Better than Severand hand/come back/marker/inside job/unemployable?

    NOT-EVEN-CLOSE

    Substitute Gone for Comeback and you've got my least favorite songs on S/T. I'm glad you don't think i'll like Backspacer!!


    Get back to me on Sept 21st.........................then tell me how you feel
  • tenforthewintenforthewin Posts: 177
    I guess they're not as pissed as they were 3 1/2 years ago.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Judging from the samples, Backspacer seems like a more "interesting" album, but it definitely doesn't seem like it's gonna have quite as many uptempo tunes, but Avocado doesn't really sound mean loud and angry to me.

    I'm more excited for this one after hearing a song or 2, but I was a little outta the PJ loop for S/T. I still dig several tunes off the album. I think they overdid the unmelodic punk tunes with RA and kinda cut back on it for S/T, just not enough for my liking. If they woulda chucked Big Wave and Comatose it woulda been alot better.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Mach271, your honest opinion..

    Are you not that impressed with Backspacer because is less aggressive? Less edgy?

    So far, to me at least, it sounds really catchy, fun, light. The music is less complicated, but in a good way.. It's the kind of music that reminds me of being a child on Saturday mornings.

    Is saying Avocado blows it out of the water an exaggeration?

    If I like the Police, The Ramones, will I also like Backspacer better?

    Avocado is very dear to me, but I've heard some amazing stuff from Backspacer. I'm REALLY excited for this album.
  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    mach271 wrote:
    Gardenparty wrote:
    mach271 wrote:
    Better than Severand hand/come back/marker/inside job/unemployable?

    NOT-EVEN-CLOSE

    Substitute Gone for Comeback and you've got my least favorite songs on S/T. I'm glad you don't think i'll like Backspacer!!


    Get back to me on Sept 21st.........................then tell me how you feel


    Will do. Actually, though, I've generally appreciated PJ albums more once the next one is released. So i do see S/T eventually finding a better place in my heart.

    Is Force of Nature uptempo?

    note: Vitalogy is my favorite as well. S/T may have rocking tunes but they sound like they are coming from a completely different place than Vitalogy.
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    Backspacer is more like a fluffy piece of art.....

    Avacodo is more direct and in your face.....

    Absolutely no jamming on backspacer...all short songs......short choruses, short hooks....NO JAMS......

    Cant compare either of the 2 to the almighty Vitalogy......or its older brother VS.....THOSE ARE CLASSICS THAT BELONG ON THE TOP, TOP SHELF!
  • adamdudeadamdude Posts: 100
    Avocado had very poor production, and had poor songs (with the exception of Army Reserve, Unemployable, Marker and Come Back). It's not gonna be too hard for Backspacer to own its arse. ;)

    My favourites are No Code - Yield - Binaural
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    adamdude wrote:
    Avocado had very poor production, and had poor songs (with the exception of Army Reserve, Unemployable, Marker and Come Back). It's not gonna be too hard for Backspacer to own its arse. ;)

    My favourites are No Code - Yield - Binaural

    Not even close my friend....NOT EVEN CLOSE
  • En La ClandestinidadEn La Clandestinidad Telford, PA by way of Kansas City, MO and Milwaukee, WI, Phoenix, AZ and East Greenbush, NY Posts: 3,650
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is more like a fluffy piece of art.....

    Avacodo is more direct and in your face.....

    Absolutely no jamming on backspacer...all short songs......short choruses, short hooks....NO JAMS......

    Cant compare either of the 2 to the almighty Vitalogy......or its older brother VS.....THOSE ARE CLASSICS THAT BELONG ON THE TOP, TOP SHELF!


    Agree with you 100%, nothing will compare to the two V albums.
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  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    demoderbydrvr wrote:
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is more like a fluffy piece of art.....

    Avacodo is more direct and in your face.....

    Absolutely no jamming on backspacer...all short songs......short choruses, short hooks....NO JAMS......

    Cant compare either of the 2 to the almighty Vitalogy......or its older brother VS.....THOSE ARE CLASSICS THAT BELONG ON THE TOP, TOP SHELF!


    Agree with you 100%, nothing will compare to the two V albums.

    +10
  • adamdudeadamdude Posts: 100
    mach271 wrote:
    adamdude wrote:
    Avocado had very poor production, and had poor songs (with the exception of Army Reserve, Unemployable, Marker and Come Back). It's not gonna be too hard for Backspacer to own its arse. ;)

    My favourites are No Code - Yield - Binaural

    Not even close my friend....NOT EVEN CLOSE

    Sorry chief, but Avocado was the suckiest suck that ever sucked. :P
  • foofan1990foofan1990 Posts: 139
    mach271 wrote:
    adamdude wrote:
    Avocado had very poor production, and had poor songs (with the exception of Army Reserve, Unemployable, Marker and Come Back). It's not gonna be too hard for Backspacer to own its arse. ;)

    My favourites are No Code - Yield - Binaural

    Not even close my friend....NOT EVEN CLOSE

    What? It's his opinion.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is soft, and delicate....

    Avocado is mean, loud and fucking angry!

    MARK MY WORDS...THER ARE GOING TO BE ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE AVOCADO MORE AFTER THEY HEAR BACKSPACER!


    Eddie's a folk hero now and I think now more than ever Eddie is control of the the band's direction...so quieter songs are to be expected. Back in 1994, Stone probably thought to himself "Eddie's a dick for trying to take over the band and never wanting to use my ideas." But now he probably thinks, "Thank god Eddie has taken over the band and has all these ideas we could use."
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    mach271 wrote:
    demoderbydrvr wrote:
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is more like a fluffy piece of art.....

    Avacodo is more direct and in your face.....

    Absolutely no jamming on backspacer...all short songs......short choruses, short hooks....NO JAMS......

    Cant compare either of the 2 to the almighty Vitalogy......or its older brother VS.....THOSE ARE CLASSICS THAT BELONG ON THE TOP, TOP SHELF!


    Agree with you 100%, nothing will compare to the two V albums.

    +10

    I think PJ realized their best albums start with that letter and that's why the put the V up on a pedestal for Yield.
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    There was a thread on here last week about the most angry PJ song.....

    It isnt Not For You....
    its Corduroy!
  • FatalFatal Posts: 821
    Call me a sceptic, but how do we know this guy has actually heard Backspacer? I've seen so much crap on the various message boards the past few weeks that i really don't buy that he's heard it.

    And for the record i loved Avocado...a nice improvement over Binaural and Riot Act.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Fatal wrote:
    Call me a sceptic, but how do we know this guy has actually heard Backspacer? I've seen so much crap on the various message boards the past few weeks that i really don't buy that he's heard it.

    And for the record i loved Avocado...a nice improvement over Binaural and Riot Act.

    Have you heard the new album, b/c I've heard nothing from it that says its gonna be as great as Binaural.
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    Fatal wrote:
    Call me a sceptic, but how do we know this guy has actually heard Backspacer? I've seen so much crap on the various message boards the past few weeks that i really don't buy that he's heard it.

    And for the record i loved Avocado...a nice improvement over Binaural and Riot Act.


    WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Im not on here giving reviews, or talking about tracks....
  • KingmidgetKingmidget Posts: 628
    mach271 wrote:
    demoderbydrvr wrote:
    mach271 wrote:
    Backspacer is more like a fluffy piece of art.....

    Avacodo is more direct and in your face.....

    Absolutely no jamming on backspacer...all short songs......short choruses, short hooks....NO JAMS......

    Cant compare either of the 2 to the almighty Vitalogy......or its older brother VS.....THOSE ARE CLASSICS THAT BELONG ON THE TOP, TOP SHELF!


    Agree with you 100%, nothing will compare to the two V albums.

    +10

    Love a great old Jethro Tull album...called "Living in the Past".....I highly recommend it! :roll:
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