oh so i guess you think you are better than Michael Vick since he's black.
Um... no.
Just responding to the thread title by letting you know that it's not just black people who defend him.
And just so we're on the same page- I don't defend what he did. But I do defend the fact that he went to prison (the one small detail that sets Vick apart from the guys people on this thread keep lumping him in with ie OJ, Michael Jackson...) and should be able to go out and find a job again, with whoever wants to hire him.
Like someone on here mentioned earlier, if the Eagles want to take the risk of hiring him and all the negative publicity that is going to come with him, more power to them.
Football is one of the only professions that would hire him as most if not all major professions mandate a criminal background check. Therefore he couldn't be a policeman, social worker, lawyer, teacher etc etc So why in Professional Football can they hire someone with such a record? My opinion is it's the football or sport culture at fault here. He is a role model and shouldn't have gotten a second chance because a non-footballer wouldn't have got a second chance. If he wasn't pro football player he would be working at burger king right now.
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Football is one of the only professions that would hire him as most if not all major professions mandate a criminal background check. Therefore he couldn't be a policeman, social worker, lawyer, teacher etc etc So why in Professional Football can they hire someone with such a record? My opinion is it's the football or sport culture at fault here. He is a role model and shouldn't have gotten a second chance because a non-footballer wouldn't have got a second chance. If he wasn't pro football player he would be working at burger king right now.
So every person in the world who is convicted of a felony is either playing professional football or working at Burger King...
From what I've gathered, the only fields that would be completely shut out to those convicted of felonies seem to be law enforcement, education and most jobs in health care. However, I might be wrong on this.
And to say that your main reason for believing he should not have received a second chance is "because a non-footballer wouldn't have got a second chance" isn't fair at all. People all over the country receive second chances every day.
I understand where your coming from, just don't agree.
Perhaps they don't receive the chance to make a million dollars, but they still get a second chance.
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I think there's a bit of confusion here... just because some of us say that we don't believe Michael Vick should not be given an opportunity to work for someone who is willing to hire him... we're looking at you, Philadelphia... means we 'support' him. We don't. We also believe he is a vile person with a horrible character who commited a heinous crime. The difference is, we don't think he should receive a greater punishment than anyone else who commits the same crime. We also believe that the penalty is not strict enough, but we know we cannot change it after the fact. They do that kind of shit... changinfg the punishment for people they hate in places like Iran, China and Pakistan. We can all still hate him and/or his crime.
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I hope the blitzing weakside linebacker for the Giants is a PeTA member.
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I think there's a bit of confusion here... just because some of us say that we don't believe Michael Vick should not be given an opportunity to work for someone who is willing to hire him... we're looking at you, Philadelphia... means we 'support' him. We don't. We also believe he is a vile person with a horrible character who commited a heinous crime. The difference is, we don't think he should receive a greater punishment than anyone else who commits the same crime. We also believe that the penalty is not strict enough, but we know we cannot change it after the fact. They do that kind of shit... changinfg the punishment for people they hate in places like Iran, China and Pakistan. We can all still hate him and/or his crime.
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I hope the blitzing weakside linebacker for the Giants is a PeTA member.
+1
Agree completely, except for maybe the part about the penalty not being stiff enough. Should he have been punished more by the courts? Probably.
But a lot of people forget that the guy went from millionaire to bankruptcy court, and pretty much lost everything he had because of this.
He also lost three years of the prime of his career because of it.
I think he probably should have spent more time in prison, because it was such a heinous act, but people who act like he just got a slap on the wrist aren't taking into account the punishment he received outside of the courts.
"The dude abides. I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' her easy for all us sinners."
I always thought the support for Vick from the black community, came out because of the conditions in inner city america. The fact that people would flip their lids, legitimately of course, and say Vick is a monster for what he did, are the same people who do nothing but go to work each day, all the while, our soldiers are shipped off to die in Iraq and afghanistan, without a word.
Additionally, violence and death and horrible things happen all the time in the inner city. I remember hearing a lecture by a radical black activist, who talked about growing up in Camden NJ, and how as a kid, every single week he was going to a funeral for his fellow friends. How one halloween, a friend was shot by a policeman, while this activist was right there. He got blood on his white t-shirt.
I think there is hypocrisy in the reactions these incidents get. Vick killing dogs is front page news everywhere, but deaths like that black radical activist experienced, and the deaths of soldiers in iraq, go on unnoticed and uncommented on.
I hope the blitzing weakside linebacker for the Giants is a PeTA member.
Illegal helmet to spine on the blindside hit? Or just a clean knock the air out of him kind of hit? Just so I have a better visual there Cosmo.
MY sources tell me that all of the "animal" teams in the NFL (except for the Carolina Panthers & Jacksonville Jaguars) have all put a contract out on Vick.
I hope the blitzing weakside linebacker for the Giants is a PeTA member.
Illegal helmet to spine on the blindside hit? Or just a clean knock the air out of him kind of hit? Just so I have a better visual there Cosmo.
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You know me.. I'm not a big fan of cheap shots, so... a clean, unobstructed path to the QB from the blindside and putting the hat right between the numbers causing a giant snot bubble to explode from his face. And a passing comment like, "That's a message from my dog, Butkus...".
That'll do.
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You hit this one right on the head. This is how America works. Michael Vick is not responsible for the light punishment for his crime. The Legislative and Justice systems are the responsible parties that work out penalties and punishment. If people are so upset about the punishment not fitting the crime... they should DO something about it... writing to your Senators and Congressman is a good place to start.
I don't care for Vick either, but to say his punishment was light I think is a bit of a stretch. While what he did was wrong, the man has paid his price and then some in my opinion.
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i would think a lot of white people would defend it as well. i remember seeing something on tv about these 2 teenagers that broke into this house where the couple had a cat rescue...they went in with bats and killed a bunch of cats and kittens and the teens parents and many in the community thought 'they were just cats' one even remarked "it's not like they killed a person" lots of people of every race don't think there is anything wrong with what michael vick did
The most horrible thing about what he did is that he profited from it. Even if you were a sort of person who didn't feel empathy for animals, it's logical to understand that hurting something with no power for money isn't right.
Can't believe people are still playing the race card in this country....get over it. Maybe Vick deserves another chance...shouldn't everybody get a second chance to make amends from their mistakes? Prison can change people!
Can't believe people are still playing the race card in this country....get over it. Maybe Vick deserves another chance...shouldn't everybody get a second chance to make amends from their mistakes? Prison can change people!
And by the way...not that it matters...but I am white!!!!
blacks talk about 2nd chances except when it comes to Don Imus, Michael Richards, etc.
I have no problem with Michael Vick being back in the NFL, I just don't want him on my team. Unfortunately my team picked him up and I have to choose to cheer for the scumbag or go against my fandom. I still want to the Eagles to win I just don't want to see him have anything to do with it.
Blacks defend blacks like OJ and Michael Vick as a response to their belief that the white man is keeping them down. Unfortunately you can't speak to and of problems in the black communities less you be labeled a racist. Until the black communities allow for honest and frank talks about what troubles their communities then they will continue on the path of destroying their own. When you have a culture of 'don't snitch' and the like then how can a community be helped or saved? Until black communities start to take care of their own, police their own there isn't a lot white America can do to help them. Say what you want about White america but for the most part white america doesn't stand for crime and criminals in their own neighborhoods.
Most of my coworker friends are black & spanish and to a man they all defend him and say he paid the price ,i don't see it that way i say he should of been banned for life from the game that made him all that $$$$$$$$ to fund the killing game he supported for yrs ........
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blacks talk about 2nd chances except when it comes to Don Imus, Michael Richards, etc.
I have no problem with Michael Vick being back in the NFL, I just don't want him on my team. Unfortunately my team picked him up and I have to choose to cheer for the scumbag or go against my fandom. I still want to the Eagles to win I just don't want to see him have anything to do with it.
Blacks defend blacks like OJ and Michael Vick as a response to their belief that the white man is keeping them down. Unfortunately you can't speak to and of problems in the black communities less you be labeled a racist. Until the black communities allow for honest and frank talks about what troubles their communities then they will continue on the path of destroying their own. When you have a culture of 'don't snitch' and the like then how can a community be helped or saved? Until black communities start to take care of their own, police their own there isn't a lot white America can do to help them. Say what you want about White america but for the most part white america doesn't stand for crime and criminals in their own neighborhoods.
I would not have cared if Michael Vick had been signed by the N E Patriots main reason being I don't own the team. I would still root for the Patriots if MV had been signed, the team and the organization is much bigger than any one player. Even one who abused animals to no end. That team owner can do whatever he wants with his team and we as fans either have to accept this or go and root for the Steelers or the Cowboys.
You know this for a fact or is this an outright generalization that ALL blacks defend blacks because the white man is keeping him down? I know I don't, I felt OJ did the crime and now karma has hit him hard right now. I haven't in any way defended MV, I do believe he should be given an opportunity to play again in the NFL. I believe things like this happen for a reason and I think and hope MV will do more for the positive treatment of animals than any other organization such as PETA.
So I gather from this that you believe for the most part the black community is just fine with crime and criminals in their own neighborhoods. Interesting statement indeed, have you ever lived in a black community to make this observation?
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So I gather from this that you believe for the most part the black community is just fine with crime and criminals in their own neighborhoods. Interesting statement indeed, have you ever lived in a black community to make this observation?
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I don't know if i term that they are 'fine' with crime but clearly in the inner-cities of America there is a culture of violence and crime and those neighborhoods are often populated by blacks. Why is this so? The most stated answer is economic reasons but other minorities have suffered economically and not resorted to a thug culture. As you ask me regarding if I ever lived in a black community again this is an example of the defensive nature of referring to the problem. I live within a few miles of a major US city so I've been exposed to the inner-city often enough to know enough about it to talk about it. If you don't agree with my characterization of the inner-cities of America I ask you to spend sometime in North Philadelphia, South Central LA, or Detroit for reference. Also can you explain why blacks make up such a small minority of the population of America but are in the criminal justice system at an extremely much higher percentage than other races?
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Since some time has passed I wonder how many Eagles fans whether black or white are NOT rooting for Michael Vick now?e now starts for the Eagles.
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Since some time has passed I wonder how many Eagles fans whether black or white are NOT rooting for Michael Vick now?e now starts for the Eagles.
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The dude has been playing lights-out! I typically don't like running QB's but he has been amazing to watch so far this year. And I'm sure most Philly fans wouldn't care if he had a prior life as a serial killer as long as he gets them to the playoffs.
Good thing he is elsewhere, his attitude was so poor but perhaps he has wised up a bit,
even been humbled.
He was horribly arrogant. I'm not convinced he has changed though,
still hanging with the wrong crowd...?
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Good thing he is elsewhere, his attitude was so poor but perhaps he has wised up a bit,
even been humbled.
He was horribly arrogant. I'm not convinced he has changed though,
still hanging with the wrong crowd...?
Loving our Matt Ryan GO FALCONS!
What elite athlete isn't horribly arrogant? In a way it's what helps drives them to the top of their sport.
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Good thing he is elsewhere, his attitude was so poor but perhaps he has wised up a bit,
even been humbled.
He was horribly arrogant. I'm not convinced he has changed though,
still hanging with the wrong crowd...?
Loving our Matt Ryan GO FALCONS!
What elite athlete isn't horribly arrogant? In a way it's what helps drives them to the top of their sport.
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That is a good question. Let's see what we have . . .
Football
* Tom Brady - super duper arrogant
* Peyton Manning - arrogant with better media skills
* Drew Brees - we may have a winner!
Basketball
* Hmm. I think everyone in the NBA is arrogant except for those that are crazy like Artest
Hockey
* Nicklaus Lidstrom - He is known as the "perfect human being" and is not arrogant
* Alex Ovechkin - Poster boy for arrogant SOB's
* Sidney Crosby - I think there is a picture of him making out with his mirror image.
Baseball
* All baseball players are a little arrogant but that probably has to do with the frat-boy mentality of the game
Soccer
* I don't watch much soccer but if the World Cup is an indicator then soccer is the hands-down winner as the most arrogant collection of athletes in the world.
Vick was rudely arrogant, like giving the fans the bird, his demeanor in interviews was just awful, that kind of thing.
I am sure there are others but I would say that most athletes are not like that.
In fact most are very humble appreciative people, who work hard and are thankful for their talents.
So I gather from this that you believe for the most part the black community is just fine with crime and criminals in their own neighborhoods. Interesting statement indeed, have you ever lived in a black community to make this observation?
Peace
I don't know if i term that they are 'fine' with crime but clearly in the inner-cities of America there is a culture of violence and crime and those neighborhoods are often populated by blacks. Why is this so? The most stated answer is economic reasons but other minorities have suffered economically and not resorted to a thug culture. As you ask me regarding if I ever lived in a black community again this is an example of the defensive nature of referring to the problem. I live within a few miles of a major US city so I've been exposed to the inner-city often enough to know enough about it to talk about it. If you don't agree with my characterization of the inner-cities of America I ask you to spend sometime in North Philadelphia, South Central LA, or Detroit for reference. Also can you explain why blacks make up such a small minority of the population of America but are in the criminal justice system at an extremely much higher percentage than other races?
Yes, there are crime problems in inner cities - but there are also crime problems in trailer parks and rural areas of the South too, and those are more heavily populated by white people. Saying "all black people support Michael Vick" because the crime rate in the inner city is high is about the same as me saying "all white people are racists who want all black people returned to Africa and all Latin-American people sent to Mexico" because that's how white people in rural Louisiana and Mississippi feel.
As for the criminal justice system numbers, the entire system seems biased against African Americans. The penalty for possession of weed, a predominantly white drug, is much less than that of crack, a predominantly black drug. I have quite a few black friends who have been pulled over by the cops for DWB. Seems to me they're being targeted. It seems as if you're much more likely to go to jail for crack possession than you are white collar crime (though I have zero evidence to back that up... it's simply how it appears to me).
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Football is one of the only professions that would hire him as most if not all major professions mandate a criminal background check. Therefore he couldn't be a policeman, social worker, lawyer, teacher etc etc So why in Professional Football can they hire someone with such a record? My opinion is it's the football or sport culture at fault here. He is a role model and shouldn't have gotten a second chance because a non-footballer wouldn't have got a second chance. If he wasn't pro football player he would be working at burger king right now.
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No, that's not a fact.
That's an opinion. An opinion I respectfully disagree with.
Appreciate your passion though.
So every person in the world who is convicted of a felony is either playing professional football or working at Burger King...
From what I've gathered, the only fields that would be completely shut out to those convicted of felonies seem to be law enforcement, education and most jobs in health care. However, I might be wrong on this.
And to say that your main reason for believing he should not have received a second chance is "because a non-footballer wouldn't have got a second chance" isn't fair at all. People all over the country receive second chances every day.
I understand where your coming from, just don't agree.
Perhaps they don't receive the chance to make a million dollars, but they still get a second chance.
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I hope the blitzing weakside linebacker for the Giants is a PeTA member.
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+1
Agree completely, except for maybe the part about the penalty not being stiff enough. Should he have been punished more by the courts? Probably.
But a lot of people forget that the guy went from millionaire to bankruptcy court, and pretty much lost everything he had because of this.
He also lost three years of the prime of his career because of it.
I think he probably should have spent more time in prison, because it was such a heinous act, but people who act like he just got a slap on the wrist aren't taking into account the punishment he received outside of the courts.
Illegal helmet to spine on the blindside hit? Or just a clean knock the air out of him kind of hit? Just so I have a better visual there Cosmo.
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Additionally, violence and death and horrible things happen all the time in the inner city. I remember hearing a lecture by a radical black activist, who talked about growing up in Camden NJ, and how as a kid, every single week he was going to a funeral for his fellow friends. How one halloween, a friend was shot by a policeman, while this activist was right there. He got blood on his white t-shirt.
I think there is hypocrisy in the reactions these incidents get. Vick killing dogs is front page news everywhere, but deaths like that black radical activist experienced, and the deaths of soldiers in iraq, go on unnoticed and uncommented on.
Thats my interpretation
MY sources tell me that all of the "animal" teams in the NFL (except for the Carolina Panthers & Jacksonville Jaguars) have all put a contract out on Vick.
Oppressing the opressor is poetic justice.
You know me.. I'm not a big fan of cheap shots, so... a clean, unobstructed path to the QB from the blindside and putting the hat right between the numbers causing a giant snot bubble to explode from his face. And a passing comment like, "That's a message from my dog, Butkus...".
That'll do.
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I don't care for Vick either, but to say his punishment was light I think is a bit of a stretch. While what he did was wrong, the man has paid his price and then some in my opinion.
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The most horrible thing about what he did is that he profited from it. Even if you were a sort of person who didn't feel empathy for animals, it's logical to understand that hurting something with no power for money isn't right.
And by the way...not that it matters...but I am white!!!!
I have no problem with Michael Vick being back in the NFL, I just don't want him on my team. Unfortunately my team picked him up and I have to choose to cheer for the scumbag or go against my fandom. I still want to the Eagles to win I just don't want to see him have anything to do with it.
Blacks defend blacks like OJ and Michael Vick as a response to their belief that the white man is keeping them down. Unfortunately you can't speak to and of problems in the black communities less you be labeled a racist. Until the black communities allow for honest and frank talks about what troubles their communities then they will continue on the path of destroying their own. When you have a culture of 'don't snitch' and the like then how can a community be helped or saved? Until black communities start to take care of their own, police their own there isn't a lot white America can do to help them. Say what you want about White america but for the most part white america doesn't stand for crime and criminals in their own neighborhoods.
I would not have cared if Michael Vick had been signed by the N E Patriots main reason being I don't own the team. I would still root for the Patriots if MV had been signed, the team and the organization is much bigger than any one player. Even one who abused animals to no end. That team owner can do whatever he wants with his team and we as fans either have to accept this or go and root for the Steelers or the Cowboys.
You know this for a fact or is this an outright generalization that ALL blacks defend blacks because the white man is keeping him down? I know I don't, I felt OJ did the crime and now karma has hit him hard right now. I haven't in any way defended MV, I do believe he should be given an opportunity to play again in the NFL. I believe things like this happen for a reason and I think and hope MV will do more for the positive treatment of animals than any other organization such as PETA.
So I gather from this that you believe for the most part the black community is just fine with crime and criminals in their own neighborhoods. Interesting statement indeed, have you ever lived in a black community to make this observation?
Peace
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I don't know if i term that they are 'fine' with crime but clearly in the inner-cities of America there is a culture of violence and crime and those neighborhoods are often populated by blacks. Why is this so? The most stated answer is economic reasons but other minorities have suffered economically and not resorted to a thug culture. As you ask me regarding if I ever lived in a black community again this is an example of the defensive nature of referring to the problem. I live within a few miles of a major US city so I've been exposed to the inner-city often enough to know enough about it to talk about it. If you don't agree with my characterization of the inner-cities of America I ask you to spend sometime in North Philadelphia, South Central LA, or Detroit for reference. Also can you explain why blacks make up such a small minority of the population of America but are in the criminal justice system at an extremely much higher percentage than other races?
Peace
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
even been humbled.
He was horribly arrogant. I'm not convinced he has changed though,
still hanging with the wrong crowd...?
Loving our Matt Ryan
What elite athlete isn't horribly arrogant? In a way it's what helps drives them to the top of their sport.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
If he don't bring the city of brotherly love a Super Bowl, lynch him. :shock:
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Football
* Tom Brady - super duper arrogant
* Peyton Manning - arrogant with better media skills
* Drew Brees - we may have a winner!
Basketball
* Hmm. I think everyone in the NBA is arrogant except for those that are crazy like Artest
Hockey
* Nicklaus Lidstrom - He is known as the "perfect human being" and is not arrogant
* Alex Ovechkin - Poster boy for arrogant SOB's
* Sidney Crosby - I think there is a picture of him making out with his mirror image.
Baseball
* All baseball players are a little arrogant but that probably has to do with the frat-boy mentality of the game
Soccer
* I don't watch much soccer but if the World Cup is an indicator then soccer is the hands-down winner as the most arrogant collection of athletes in the world.
I am sure there are others but I would say that most athletes are not like that.
In fact most are very humble appreciative people, who work hard and are thankful for their talents.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Yes, there are crime problems in inner cities - but there are also crime problems in trailer parks and rural areas of the South too, and those are more heavily populated by white people. Saying "all black people support Michael Vick" because the crime rate in the inner city is high is about the same as me saying "all white people are racists who want all black people returned to Africa and all Latin-American people sent to Mexico" because that's how white people in rural Louisiana and Mississippi feel.
As for the criminal justice system numbers, the entire system seems biased against African Americans. The penalty for possession of weed, a predominantly white drug, is much less than that of crack, a predominantly black drug. I have quite a few black friends who have been pulled over by the cops for DWB. Seems to me they're being targeted. It seems as if you're much more likely to go to jail for crack possession than you are white collar crime (though I have zero evidence to back that up... it's simply how it appears to me).