How is The Fixer still in the Top 5 (Billboard)??

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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    "The Fixer" is getting a ton of airplay here in Toronto.

    102.1 The Edge plays it like 4-5 times a day.

    In some of the larger radio markets, "The Fixer" is getting major airplay.

    So obviously, there are more than a few people out there who like the song.

    I guess you are in the minority.

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  • MEGATRON wrote:
    such snobs. all i can say. can't you just like a fun song.

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    yeah but this ain't fun, its annoying :D

    that said, i havent listened to the radio in 5 or 6 years. I'm not sure how they rank these songs, but im pretty sure its not getting heavy play on the same shitty radio stations that pump out Seether or Puddle of Mudd or whatever shit is on radio nowadays. I dont like the Fixer but at least its not that!

    im sure it will fade quickly lke every other pJ single in the past 10 years!
  • nooramnooram Posts: 392
    Well, DJs wouldn't want to play songs people don't like because then the radio station would lose viewers

    Who are these radio viewers? j/k

    BTW, I was awoken at 520 am this morning by The Fixer on my alarm clock radio (93X - Minneapolis). It was a treat!
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  • bigbadbillbigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    evanser wrote:
    because the rest of rock music sucks, thats why

    You're right. It pains me to hear how every lead singer to every new band has that whiny voice (EMO sucks). All the new music is commercial and designed for the ears of girls. It's almost like when a lot of singers in the 90s were imitating Ed's baritone voice (ala Creed/Nickleback). I've heard The Fixer a few times on KROQ, but that's when I hear it when I'm pressing all of my presets on my car radio. Otherwise, I'm either listening to Sports Talk, News, or my iPod.
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  • bigbadbillbigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    Once a new Pearl Jam album is released, you'll never hear that album's single again. Radios will revert to the old standard: Alive, Black, RVM, Daughter, Corduroy, maybe even Jeremy and Even Flow.
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  • bigbadbillbigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    MrSmith wrote:
    Silversun Pickups are awesome.

    Although I was never friends with him, I went to the same high school for 10th grade as the drummer to Silversun Pickups. I thought I would throw that fun fact out there.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,398
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    "The Fixer" is getting a ton of airplay here in Toronto.

    102.1 The Edge plays it like 4-5 times a day.

    Sorry, but 4-5 times a day isn't a TON of airplay. I hear Use Somebody or the Silversun Pickups song AT LEAST every other time I get into my car. 4-5 times over 24 hours is a very small percentage.

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  • You don't know anyone who likes the fixer? Yea right I know more people that like than don't. Pearl Jam the best band in the world how are you surprised it is #3 on the charts? I'm surprised it's not #1.
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,398
    You don't know anyone who likes the fixer? Yea right I know more people that like than don't. Pearl Jam the best band in the world how are you surprised it is #3 on the charts? I'm surprised it's not #1.

    I guess I hang out with people who aren't up PJ's a-holes? Seriously? The Fixer #1? The Linkin Park song is FAR more popular.

    Most people don't like Pearl Jam anymore. Realize that.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    You don't know anyone who likes the fixer? Yea right I know more people that like than don't. Pearl Jam the best band in the world how are you surprised it is #3 on the charts? I'm surprised it's not #1.

    I guess I hang out with people who aren't up PJ's a-holes? Seriously? The Fixer #1? The Linkin Park song is FAR more popular.

    Most people don't like Pearl Jam anymore. Realize that.
    pearl jam now wants people to like them...i know it sucks im sorry
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised... how do you measure radio popularity anyway? By the number of times a DJ plays the song? Well, DJs wouldn't want to play songs people don't like because then the radio station would lose viewers, so theoretically if a DJ is playing a song a lot its becasue people want to hear it...

    Viewers? If you're watching the radio, I think you're doing it wrong ;)
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    "The Fixer" is getting a ton of airplay here in Toronto.

    102.1 The Edge plays it like 4-5 times a day.

    Sorry, but 4-5 times a day isn't a TON of airplay. I hear Use Somebody or the Silversun Pickups song AT LEAST every other time I get into my car. 4-5 times over 24 hours is a very small percentage.

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    Radio stations that play the same song more than a few times a day are usually pretty shitty anyways. I mean, there is more than 10 songs out there..
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    "The Fixer" is getting a ton of airplay here in Toronto.

    102.1 The Edge plays it like 4-5 times a day.

    Sorry, but 4-5 times a day isn't a TON of airplay. I hear Use Somebody or the Silversun Pickups song AT LEAST every other time I get into my car. 4-5 times over 24 hours is a very small percentage.

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    I'm not sure this is what the other poster meant, but ... if you are actually hearing, with your own ears, a certain song on a certain radio station 4 or 5 times a day, it's a safe bet it is getting played a lot more than that. I mean, I suppose it could just so happen that the ONLY times you hear a song on a radio station coincidentally are the only 4-5 times it was played all day, but it's highly unlikely.

    I mean, maybe he meant that he listened to a radio station for 24 consecutive hours and heard the Fixer 4 or 5 times. More likely, he means he heard it 4 or 5 times during the few hours in a day that he is actually around a radio. But I don't want to speak for him.

    To actually hear a song 4-5 songs during the course of a given day ... that's like "Friends in Low Places" circa 1990. It's a safe bet the song IS getting a ton of airplay on that station. I mean, I don't even hear that horrible new Black Eyed Peas song 4 or 5 times a day.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    edited August 2009
    Either way you look at it, radio stations are not going to shove a song down your throat unless it is getting a lot of requests. I mean, the album isn't even out yet. Didn't Kings of Leon new cd come out last September? Sex on Fire took off during the winter.. I remember hearing it a handful of times on the radio right when the album came out, and then not again for a few months and then it exploded.

    If The Fixer becomes a hit, it probably won't happen until sometime after the album comes out, or at least a few more weeks from now.

    They plan this stuff so the single is actually for sale when people are starting to catch on and want it.

    Hell, Jeremy wasn't a hit until like a year after Ten was released. I know they weren't known, but I'm sure the music was out there.
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    "The Fixer" is getting a ton of airplay here in Toronto.

    102.1 The Edge plays it like 4-5 times a day.

    Sorry, but 4-5 times a day isn't a TON of airplay. I hear Use Somebody or the Silversun Pickups song AT LEAST every other time I get into my car. 4-5 times over 24 hours is a very small percentage.

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    For a song that has only been out for 2 weeks...that's alot of airplay
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    "The Fixer" is getting a ton of airplay here in Toronto.

    102.1 The Edge plays it like 4-5 times a day.

    Sorry, but 4-5 times a day isn't a TON of airplay. I hear Use Somebody or the Silversun Pickups song AT LEAST every other time I get into my car. 4-5 times over 24 hours is a very small percentage.

    (Should I do it?)
    Thanks for Playing.
    Good Night.


    For a song that has only been out for 2 weeks...that's alot of airplay
    Like I said, the single isn't even for sale yet.. they know what they are doing. If it gets a lot of airplay in the first month or two, its only because of the name Pearl Jam. If it becomes an actual hit, it could take months to take off.

    As far as I know, this "pop" song has only been released to rock stations. It could be a little out of place right now, but is getting play because the rock stations will play the name Pearl Jam, while pop and adult contemporary stations won't quite play it yet.

    I'm pretty sure the same thing happened with American Idiot by Green Day. It was months before that took off. I heard American Idiot a few dozen times, and then they stopped playing it, then months later the album exploded.
  • LedbetterdaysLedbetterdays Round Rock, Texas Posts: 556
    This is all going to be interesting to watch once whatever is going to happen with target happens. The big cities drive the spin numbers because there are not that many true alternative or rock stations anymore. So heavy play in Philly, LA, and NY is enough to go top 5. As far as it being that high, all of the other songs around them other than Notion have been out for quite awhile and are declining in rotations, while Fixer is still climbing. It is up ten spots on the mainstream rock charts on all access. A song being played nationally 200 times in a week is good enough for top ten on the rock charts. Alternative requires 1200 spins. Top 40/Pop requires 5000 plays for top ten. So if you do not have a station dedicated to alternative or new rock you probably won't hear it but it can be popular by these relative terms.
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  • It's funny how Pearl Jam puts out "I Am Mine", which sounds like a fucking CREED song, and nobody bats an eye. But The Fixer? Oh no, it's too catchy and Matt Cameron-ish. We can't handle that.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    This is all going to be interesting to watch once whatever is going to happen with target happens. The big cities drive the spin numbers because there are not that many true alternative or rock stations anymore. So heavy play in Philly, LA, and NY is enough to go top 5. As far as it being that high, all of the other songs around them other than Notion have been out for quite awhile and are declining in rotations, while Fixer is still climbing. It is up ten spots on the mainstream rock charts on all access. A song being played nationally 200 times in a week is good enough for top ten on the rock charts. Alternative requires 1200 spins. Top 40/Pop requires 5000 plays for top ten. So if you do not have a station dedicated to alternative or new rock you probably won't hear it but it can be popular by these relative terms.
    The Target commercial is going to introduce the song to the other 99% of this country that aren't listening to alternative rock stations. It will be interesting to see what happens.

    Think of this stage as the teaser for the song. Just wait until it is actually for sale, and then give it some time.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    It's funny how Pearl Jam puts out "I Am Mine", which sounds like a fucking CREED song, and nobody bats an eye. But The Fixer? Oh no, it's too catchy and Matt Cameron-ish. We can't handle that.

    really? i don't hear Creed at all in that song. for the record, i like both I am Mine & The Fixer! yeah, yeah ,yeah!!!
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  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    well radio was broke so eddie put a little... never mind.
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  • mfc2006 wrote:
    It's funny how Pearl Jam puts out "I Am Mine", which sounds like a fucking CREED song, and nobody bats an eye. But The Fixer? Oh no, it's too catchy and Matt Cameron-ish. We can't handle that.

    really? i don't hear Creed at all in that song.

    The chorus is total Creed. The keyboard strings in the background? Barf!
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    It's funny how Pearl Jam puts out "I Am Mine", which sounds like a fucking CREED song, and nobody bats an eye. But The Fixer? Oh no, it's too catchy and Matt Cameron-ish. We can't handle that.

    I Am Mine sounds like Creed?

    I don't think you listened to much Creed. Which, come to think of it, is probably a good thing. But that song sounds nothing like a Creed song.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    mfc2006 wrote:
    It's funny how Pearl Jam puts out "I Am Mine", which sounds like a fucking CREED song, and nobody bats an eye. But The Fixer? Oh no, it's too catchy and Matt Cameron-ish. We can't handle that.

    really? i don't hear Creed at all in that song.

    The chorus is total Creed.

    No, it isn't. It takes more than "keyboard strings" to make a Creed song.
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  • It's funny how Pearl Jam puts out "I Am Mine", which sounds like a fucking CREED song, and nobody bats an eye. But The Fixer? Oh no, it's too catchy and Matt Cameron-ish. We can't handle that.

    I Am Mine sounds like Creed?

    The chorus mainly. I can totally imagine Creed playing it. And the strings in the background...

    I could be wrong, but I've always felt it was a cheesefest.

    Was "I Am Mine" a successful single or did it tank? I can't remember.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Just think of all the lonely housewives out there who were once fans back in the early nineties, maybe millions. When they see Ed and Jeff jamming with their shirts off on the Target commercial between their favorite daytime soaps, they are going to want to add some excitement back into their lives. They are going to hear a catchy song, and want rekindle their rebellious youth. They are going to want to be cool again. They are going to pick up the CD along with some bathroom towels and all-purpose cleaner on their next trip to Target.. They are going to want to get it back again. ;)
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised... how do you measure radio popularity anyway? By the number of times a DJ plays the song? Well, DJs wouldn't want to play songs people don't like because then the radio station would lose viewers, so theoretically if a DJ is playing a song a lot its becasue people want to hear it...

    Viewers? If you're watching the radio, I think you're doing it wrong ;)



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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    It's funny how Pearl Jam puts out "I Am Mine", which sounds like a fucking CREED song, and nobody bats an eye. But The Fixer? Oh no, it's too catchy and Matt Cameron-ish. We can't handle that.

    I Am Mine sounds like Creed?

    The chorus mainly. I can totally imagine Creed playing it. And the strings in the background...

    I could be wrong, but I've always felt it was a cheesefest.

    Was "I Am Mine" a successful single or did it tank? I can't remember.

    You're most assuredly wrong ;)

    As for I Am Mine's success as a single ... when was Pearl Jam's last successful single? 1992, not counting Last Kiss?
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  • MrSmith wrote:
    Silversun Pickups are awesome.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....HA :lol:

  • The chorus mainly. I can totally imagine Creed playing it. And the strings in the background...

    I could be wrong, but I've always felt it was a cheesefest.

    Was "I Am Mine" a successful single or did it tank? I can't remember.

    You're most assuredly wrong ;)

    As for I Am Mine's success as a single ... when was Pearl Jam's last successful single? 1992, not counting Last Kiss?
    i dont know what successful means exactly, but I'd say Given To Fly. its the last song i still occasionally hear on radio.
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