I have deleted my previous post as I have been accused of taking credit for the ticket allocation and for being someone who you should apparently all be cautious of.
I am a pearl jam fan who has worked in the industry on and off for years. When the ticket problems happened with HMV i contacted a number of old industry people as I was desperate to know why it is that touts got tickets and we didnt. I have detailled this on THIS SITE over the past few weeks and asked people to post up their experiences so I had enough info to approach the industry with. Someone contacted me back by phone and we have talked over the past week about trying to get tickets for the 70 or so remaining fans on here who need tickets. Today I receieved a call verifiying that these tickets would go on sale to you all and how could we do this. Later today the decision was then made by them to put the tickets on sale here with the help of a lady from the 10c who has arrived in England today for the gig. I was also asked to keep a list of people who still need tickets.
This is not bullshit. I am not trying to take credit or score brownie points and I was actually trying to help everyone out . I have spent my whole week worrying about this and hoping it will happen for everyone. I have nothing to gain from it other than being pleased that everyone had tickets. I wrote my earlier post because so many people on here seemed to think today's 10c ticket sale was a scam so I thought maybe it was for the best if I told everyone about how the ticket allocation came through and that some of us have been trying to get tickets. Not for credit or brownie points but because that way, you know that 10c were not having a marketing ploy and so that you all know that people in the industry DO care about fans getting tickets. Everyone on here has had a shit time these past few weeks with HMV messing us about, it was my hope that people would finally get tickets.
I am not a bullshitter. But I'm now a pretty upset PJ fan.
In answer to an earlier Q - I do not know where they got the tickets back from but they are genuine. My assumption, perhaps incorrectly, is that they were pulled back in from overpriced ticket agencies or perhaps HMV cancellations. I do not know.
I'm not calling you a bullshitter but I will say that I have been a little suspicious of your posts over the last few weeks since this lottery started. You have regularly cited 'industry contacts' but given no concrete evidence of who what or where that might be. Therefore, you sound a little untrustworthy, the internet is full of people claiming to be something they are not. If you are a fan, great, you are obviously worked very hard to help others out and I apologise for being suspicious of your intentions when you are clearly good natured.
Personally, I can't think of where these tickets have come from unless 10C had them all this time and was planning this. Or they were allocated tickets that were not taken by VIPs. I just can't see a necessity for somenoe like yourself to be doing the work for 10C to get those tickets.
I really hope most of you on the original missed-out list were lucky enough to get tickets!! I will read through this thread in a sec to see who did and who didn't.
Please, please know - those of you who did miss out (and those of you who didn't) - some of us have worked very hard behind the scenes to make this new ticket allocation available and whilst I cannot reveal any names, please please believe me when I tell you that the people right at the heart of the industry worked their bums off to make these final tickets available to fans on here who missed out. They also worked really hard to try to stop touts wherever possible. I had been hoping for the past week that more tickets might become available to you all but I was unable to say anything in case it didn't happen - I'm thrilled to bits that a couple of people out there have been as good as their word to me and made this happen for everyone, so please send good karma up there and out in the direction of the nice people that did this. Believe me, they were 100% keen to ensure that ONLY fans who missed out on here were able to get these last tickets.
Those of you who didn't get tickets - can you please put your names on here or PM me - especially if you live in the area and are able to get to the venue quickly - in case more tickets do come up at short notice? PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU LET ME KNOW BY MIDDAY TOMORROW, PLEASE!!!
Thanks
Hi Goddess. I would still absolutely love a ticket for tomorrow and am close enough that I can get there.
If you really have done all this - (and I have no reason to doubt you other than SLH's caution), then all of us on the mini-lottery list should take the time to thank you for your effort. So - thanks - and if i do manage to get lucky somehow tomorrow I will be a very happy boy - if not then good luck to everyone else and enjoy.
Ian
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Nothing like a bit of controversy on a monday evening!!
Yep. Especially when you are just trying to do the right thing.
Ah well.
Look, not sure what to believe...but you sound like you genuinely care about the whole fiasco thats happened over this gig.
Anyway, even if you don't manage to get a ticket to tomorrow maybe it'd be worth (and possibly fun) for those that can make it to the venue to have a few beers by the back doors and listen to the gig.
I'm not calling you a bullshitter but I will say that I have been a little suspicious of your posts over the last few weeks since this lottery started. You have regularly cited 'industry contacts' but given no concrete evidence of who what or where that might be. Therefore, you sound a little untrustworthy, the internet is full of people claiming to be something they are not. If you are a fan, great, you are obviously worked very hard to help others out and I apologise for being suspicious of your intentions when you are clearly good natured.
Personally, I can't think of where these tickets have come from unless 10C had them all this time and was planning this. Or they were allocated tickets that were not taken by VIPs. I just can't see a necessity for somenoe like yourself to be doing the work for 10C to get those tickets.
Hi
If you were suspicious of me, I really wish you could have just mailed me and I would happily have talked to you. It's genuinely upset me to be having this big grand upset on here. There is a really good reason I have not named 'industry contacts' on here - would you go around stating people name's and job titles on a forum?? I would be in the biggest crap with people that I know!! I have actually detailed on here exactly who I wrote to and I happily gave out any info I received in return. Have a look back through the forums and hopefully you will see this. I was told by a couple of friends / contacts at agencies and labels that there were no more tickets available originallky but they DID give me details for the concert promoters assoc etc which I put straight up on here for people to use as they saw fit. My own previous experience is that I worked in A&R for sony music and ZTT a few years ago as well as being a freelance promoter myself. I do understand that lots of people bullshit on line but I'm not one of them. I rarely use internet forums, the PJ one is the only one I ever really correspond to so i guess i have learned a few lessons today.
I honestly do not know where the agent got the tickets back from but they did. They are genuine and it means that people have been able to get more tickets. I do not think 10c had them all this time, though. If they somehow did then I have had the wool pulled over my eyes too ) Plus I would also have been made a part of a sham set of phone calls, so I too wonder if they are VIP pullbacks or maybe cancellations or even have been pulled back from those overpriced ticket agencies on line? I do not know enough about that side of things to know how they did it, but they did.
The reason i was even involved in the first place is purely because I contacted them and told them what had happened to us. The reason it has all been last minute i THINK is because they really had no idea how many tickets they would be able to get. My remaining involvement was purely because I was reporting in on how many people were on here wanting tickets etc, i took it upon myself to try and represent the need for tickets on here. I'm sorry if that has somehow offended people on here but I was geuinely trying to get tickets for people.
I really can't say anything else to reassure people that i'm not some scammer trying to take credit. This just started as me trying to reassure people that the tickets sold today were genuine as so many comments seemed worried / concerned. I had also said I would try to get names of people who still needed tickets so I was trying to fulfill that.
Glad someone out there does not think I am Frank Butcher!! I really really did not post on here to get thanks, I am honestly not like that. I just thought I was doing the right thing by explaining to people that those tickets were genuine as people genuinely seemed to be upset about it. I have wanted to come on here all week and say to people 'Guys - I think more tickets MAY become available' but I did not dare as I did not know if it would happen or not. I'm not sitting here going 'look at me , look what I did!', I have been here on the edge of my seat hoping that the person I talked to was in a position to help people on here.
So many of us, me included, have said how upset we are about touts getting those tickets up until now. And so many of us, me included, have said we are cross that VIPs/industry get tickets and that why aren't they agents / industry doing anything about it all. I kind of hoped I could bridge a gap in a way. Maybe let everyone know that there are some industry people who DO give a crap - I have been amazed by them myself this week. I will absolutely pass on as many names as I can about those who still need tickets.
That just had me scurrying to my order history, just to quadruple check! Congratulations
And Goddess, whether you had a bearing on these extra tickets becoming available or not, I have seen the effort you have put in here over the last weeks and you have my respect.
Goddess, you seem upset and I didn't mean to offend. However, this is the internet and I felt it was appropriate to challenge your credentials as people's feelings are running very high about tomorrow's gig and I just couldn't and still can't understand why 10C wouldn't be able to read the thread for themselves regarding the gig and know that so many people were keen to get tickets and felt let down by the process. I found it hard to see the need for an intermediary to relay this information to them. If you are genuine, I applaud your aptitude, perseverence and effort - you clearly care a great deal about what has been happening and it is commedable that you have channelled your energies this way. Let's call and end to this debate, I certainly did not intend to make your emotions run so highly, I was only really interested in where the tickets may have come from for the lightening sale today.
That just had me scurrying to my order history, just to quadruple check! Congratulations
And Goddess, whether you had a bearing on these extra tickets becoming available or not, I have seen the effort you have put in here over the last weeks and you have my respect.
Guys I will just clear this up as I don't want 10c or anyone else thinking I am taking credit or handing out tickets. It is as simple as I tried to be a bit of protestor and share our experiences with people who could actually do something as I felt so strongly about the touting etc going on in the industry. I really hope everyone gets to go to the show.
T - thanks for your message, its appreciated. Please note that it is not 10c I dealt with about the tickets - I relayed the info to someone else and I they later talked to 10c, I guess. 10c are very aware of the forum by the looks of it and they are to be commended! I have just sent them a mail to apologise as I was so worried I had offended them too.
Yes, I'm with you on the let this be the end of it thing.
as people's feelings are running very high about tomorrow's gig
Yeah ) This is very, very true. I myself am in a near state of OTT excitment/trauma and quite frankly I won't believe I am going until I stand in the venue myself. Probably accounts for my epic novel I wrote on here earlier, too.
i cant believe how lucky i am tonite,sent the email at 8pm thinking i got no chance but hey presto got reply saying i can buy a pair for sbe.nearly shit myself but hey im there.
I managed to get a pair... I feel seriously lucky!!! See you all tonight!!! And the O2 next week...
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27/08/06 READING - 'Crown of Thorns' & Ed’s solo/singalong of Black Sabbath's 'Iron Man' on the ukulele
18/06/07 WEMBLEY
Any spares please let me know, PM me before 1600 as I am heading down from North London then to try my luck. I am desperate for a ticket after missing out on all the pre sales and lottery draws. I will be down there just after 1700ish.
I will buy you lots of beer!
Rock on!!!!
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Yep. Especially when you are just trying to do the right thing.
Ah well.
I'm not calling you a bullshitter but I will say that I have been a little suspicious of your posts over the last few weeks since this lottery started. You have regularly cited 'industry contacts' but given no concrete evidence of who what or where that might be. Therefore, you sound a little untrustworthy, the internet is full of people claiming to be something they are not. If you are a fan, great, you are obviously worked very hard to help others out and I apologise for being suspicious of your intentions when you are clearly good natured.
Personally, I can't think of where these tickets have come from unless 10C had them all this time and was planning this. Or they were allocated tickets that were not taken by VIPs. I just can't see a necessity for somenoe like yourself to be doing the work for 10C to get those tickets.
Hi Goddess. I would still absolutely love a ticket for tomorrow and am close enough that I can get there.
If you really have done all this - (and I have no reason to doubt you other than SLH's caution), then all of us on the mini-lottery list should take the time to thank you for your effort. So - thanks - and if i do manage to get lucky somehow tomorrow I will be a very happy boy - if not then good luck to everyone else and enjoy.
Ian
Dublin
Leeds
Reading
Wembley
Manchester
O2 London
Belfast
Hyde Park
Anyway, even if you don't manage to get a ticket to tomorrow maybe it'd be worth (and possibly fun) for those that can make it to the venue to have a few beers by the back doors and listen to the gig.
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2010 ░▒▓ Hyde Park
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Hi
If you were suspicious of me, I really wish you could have just mailed me and I would happily have talked to you. It's genuinely upset me to be having this big grand upset on here. There is a really good reason I have not named 'industry contacts' on here - would you go around stating people name's and job titles on a forum?? I would be in the biggest crap with people that I know!! I have actually detailed on here exactly who I wrote to and I happily gave out any info I received in return. Have a look back through the forums and hopefully you will see this. I was told by a couple of friends / contacts at agencies and labels that there were no more tickets available originallky but they DID give me details for the concert promoters assoc etc which I put straight up on here for people to use as they saw fit. My own previous experience is that I worked in A&R for sony music and ZTT a few years ago as well as being a freelance promoter myself. I do understand that lots of people bullshit on line but I'm not one of them. I rarely use internet forums, the PJ one is the only one I ever really correspond to so i guess i have learned a few lessons today.
I honestly do not know where the agent got the tickets back from but they did. They are genuine and it means that people have been able to get more tickets. I do not think 10c had them all this time, though. If they somehow did then I have had the wool pulled over my eyes too
The reason i was even involved in the first place is purely because I contacted them and told them what had happened to us. The reason it has all been last minute i THINK is because they really had no idea how many tickets they would be able to get. My remaining involvement was purely because I was reporting in on how many people were on here wanting tickets etc, i took it upon myself to try and represent the need for tickets on here. I'm sorry if that has somehow offended people on here but I was geuinely trying to get tickets for people.
I really can't say anything else to reassure people that i'm not some scammer trying to take credit. This just started as me trying to reassure people that the tickets sold today were genuine as so many comments seemed worried / concerned. I had also said I would try to get names of people who still needed tickets so I was trying to fulfill that.
I don't see what else I can say about it folks.
Santos will not have known you were involved hence his warning to all.
But seriously well done, you did great. Be proud and do you really care what people think?
I've seen the effort you put in in here and sincerely hope you got a ticket
Glad someone out there does not think I am Frank Butcher!! I really really did not post on here to get thanks, I am honestly not like that. I just thought I was doing the right thing by explaining to people that those tickets were genuine as people genuinely seemed to be upset about it. I have wanted to come on here all week and say to people 'Guys - I think more tickets MAY become available' but I did not dare as I did not know if it would happen or not. I'm not sitting here going 'look at me , look what I did!', I have been here on the edge of my seat hoping that the person I talked to was in a position to help people on here.
So many of us, me included, have said how upset we are about touts getting those tickets up until now. And so many of us, me included, have said we are cross that VIPs/industry get tickets and that why aren't they agents / industry doing anything about it all. I kind of hoped I could bridge a gap in a way. Maybe let everyone know that there are some industry people who DO give a crap - I have been amazed by them myself this week. I will absolutely pass on as many names as I can about those who still need tickets.
That just had me scurrying to my order history, just to quadruple check! Congratulations
And Goddess, whether you had a bearing on these extra tickets becoming available or not, I have seen the effort you have put in here over the last weeks and you have my respect.
Best of luck,
T
Guys I will just clear this up as I don't want 10c or anyone else thinking I am taking credit or handing out tickets. It is as simple as I tried to be a bit of protestor and share our experiences with people who could actually do something as I felt so strongly about the touting etc going on in the industry. I really hope everyone gets to go to the show.
T - thanks for your message, its appreciated. Please note that it is not 10c I dealt with about the tickets - I relayed the info to someone else and I they later talked to 10c, I guess. 10c are very aware of the forum by the looks of it and they are to be commended! I have just sent them a mail to apologise as I was so worried I had offended them too.
Yes, I'm with you on the let this be the end of it thing.
Yeah
25/08/06 LEEDS - 'Go' & 'Animal', 'Daughter/It's OK' & Ed’s dream about George Bush
27/08/06 READING - 'Crown of Thorns' & Ed’s solo/singalong of Black Sabbath's 'Iron Man' on the ukulele
18/06/07 WEMBLEY
I will buy you lots of beer!
Seen Pearl Jam 4 times in London, once in Manchester, as well as an Eddie show at Hammersmith.